Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 23 February 2012
23 Feb 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rail Services (Consultation)
I would love to, but I have only four minutes.
Why does the Labour Party not bring something positive to the table? Where are its plans for the railways in Scotland? Does it have any? I thought not. It does not have a policy or a constructive suggestion. It has nothing. Richard Baker’s motion talks about “concerns expressed in Glasgow” about
“the future of 11 railway stations”.
The minister has told us that those 11 stations have been named because someone asked for the names. I am sure that we are all keen to know who that was and how it came about. It has come to my attention that, at a public meeting that was arranged by my local Labour member of Parliament, that mystery person asked the question. We all know him: he is the defeated Labour candidate who did not see his own downfall coming when it was staring him in the face.
I am not suggesting for a moment that this is a set-up—heaven forfend—but it has involved a Labour MP arranging a meeting to discuss the consultation, a member of the public asking for stations to be named and, once they were named, Labour running its council election campaign around that. At the very least, it is political opportunism of the worst kind.
As Labour scrabbles around for a bandwagon to jump on—or create—the SNP continues to invest in Scotland’s rail services. Our rail network receives a higher public subsidy than any network elsewhere in the United Kingdom. Indeed, the recent budget passed by this Parliament increased expenditure on rail services and on maintaining the current network.
The SNP’s record on transport is one to be proud of, especially in Glasgow. That is demonstrated by our additional investment in the Glasgow subway and our commitment to fastlink, which will be an important piece of infrastructure when we host the Commonwealth games. The new Southern general hospital is another huge investment in Glasgow by this Scottish Government. There are countless other examples, which I am sure my colleagues will mention.
We have even put on an extra five trains a day between Glasgow and Dundee. I realise that Labour members do not have much reason to visit Dundee any more, but they have to accept that that is not the behaviour of a Government that does not recognise the importance of railway services.
Labour’s petition against the rail 2014 consultation states:
“I am against many of the changes proposed to Scotland’s railway network.”
It does not specify a single change, and I am sure that I am not the only person who read that and thought of Father Dougal standing outside the cinema in an episode of “Father Ted”, chanting, “Down with this sort of thing.” It is completely meaningless and shows the campaign for precisely what it is—an electioneering tool for May. Labour knows that there is no threat and wants to be able to claim the credit for changing the minister’s mind when he confirms that. That will not work.
Presiding Officer, if you invited me to a party—I await that call—and I said that I had no plan or intention to turn up, but then did, your response would be, “You told me you weren’t coming.” No plans and no intentions means not happening—in this case, no station closures.
Benjamin Franklin once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Clearly, the Labour Party is so desperate that it is willing to play the politics of the madhouse. It has no ideas, no vision and no policies, so all that it is left with is the politics of negativity, carping from the sidelines and spreading fear in local communities. I have—
Why does the Labour Party not bring something positive to the table? Where are its plans for the railways in Scotland? Does it have any? I thought not. It does not have a policy or a constructive suggestion. It has nothing. Richard Baker’s motion talks about “concerns expressed in Glasgow” about
“the future of 11 railway stations”.
The minister has told us that those 11 stations have been named because someone asked for the names. I am sure that we are all keen to know who that was and how it came about. It has come to my attention that, at a public meeting that was arranged by my local Labour member of Parliament, that mystery person asked the question. We all know him: he is the defeated Labour candidate who did not see his own downfall coming when it was staring him in the face.
I am not suggesting for a moment that this is a set-up—heaven forfend—but it has involved a Labour MP arranging a meeting to discuss the consultation, a member of the public asking for stations to be named and, once they were named, Labour running its council election campaign around that. At the very least, it is political opportunism of the worst kind.
As Labour scrabbles around for a bandwagon to jump on—or create—the SNP continues to invest in Scotland’s rail services. Our rail network receives a higher public subsidy than any network elsewhere in the United Kingdom. Indeed, the recent budget passed by this Parliament increased expenditure on rail services and on maintaining the current network.
The SNP’s record on transport is one to be proud of, especially in Glasgow. That is demonstrated by our additional investment in the Glasgow subway and our commitment to fastlink, which will be an important piece of infrastructure when we host the Commonwealth games. The new Southern general hospital is another huge investment in Glasgow by this Scottish Government. There are countless other examples, which I am sure my colleagues will mention.
We have even put on an extra five trains a day between Glasgow and Dundee. I realise that Labour members do not have much reason to visit Dundee any more, but they have to accept that that is not the behaviour of a Government that does not recognise the importance of railway services.
Labour’s petition against the rail 2014 consultation states:
“I am against many of the changes proposed to Scotland’s railway network.”
It does not specify a single change, and I am sure that I am not the only person who read that and thought of Father Dougal standing outside the cinema in an episode of “Father Ted”, chanting, “Down with this sort of thing.” It is completely meaningless and shows the campaign for precisely what it is—an electioneering tool for May. Labour knows that there is no threat and wants to be able to claim the credit for changing the minister’s mind when he confirms that. That will not work.
Presiding Officer, if you invited me to a party—I await that call—and I said that I had no plan or intention to turn up, but then did, your response would be, “You told me you weren’t coming.” No plans and no intentions means not happening—in this case, no station closures.
Benjamin Franklin once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Clearly, the Labour Party is so desperate that it is willing to play the politics of the madhouse. It has no ideas, no vision and no policies, so all that it is left with is the politics of negativity, carping from the sidelines and spreading fear in local communities. I have—
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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
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Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
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The Minister for Housing and Transport (Keith Brown)
SNP
Can Richard Baker point to where in the consultation document it is proposed that stations be closed?
Richard Baker
Lab
Yes I can. As the minister is well aware, the proposal is in section 7.The proposal to close a number of railway stations is just one of our concerns about t...
The Minister for Housing and Transport (Keith Brown)
SNP
I am pleased to have a chance to reiterate once again the Government’s position. It is important to bear it in mind that the process was a consultation and t...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab)
Lab
I refer the minister to paragraph 7.11, which states:“We would welcome views on what locations may be more appropriate for stations and which current station...
Keith Brown
SNP
It is a distortion of the English language to say that that is a proposal for closure. The word “closure” is not in that paragraph. The first part of the par...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Will the minister give way?
Keith Brown
SNP
I will make progress, then I might come back to Mr Harvie.We have made it clear throughout the consultation period that we are talking about options and not ...
Patrick Harvie
Green
Will the minister give way on that point?
Keith Brown
SNP
No.Richard Baker talked about a request for information on which stations are under threat, but that was not the nature of that request. People asked for inf...
Richard Baker
Lab
Is the minister saying that, as long as he is in office, none of the 11 stations in question will close?
Keith Brown
SNP
I do not know on how many occasions we have said that we have no plans to close those stations. However, we must listen to what people have said in the consu...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
I congratulate Richard Baker on lodging the motion. I know that its subject has been dealt with in a members’ business debate, but it is important that we sh...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
We now move to the open debate. I remind members that they have a strict four minutes. If members try to go over that, we are likely to cut them off mid-stre...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
SNP
Since I was elected to the Scottish Parliament, I have had the honour of representing my constituents in the parliamentary chamber and in Glasgow City Counci...
Richard Baker
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
James Dornan
SNP
I would love to, but I have only four minutes.Why does the Labour Party not bring something positive to the table? Where are its plans for the railways in Sc...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
You must end now. I call Patricia Ferguson.09:42
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab)
Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. The motion recognises the real concern felt by many in communities in and around Glasgow about the future of their local train ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I am sorry, but your time is up. I call John Mason.09:46
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
This reminds me of Westminster, which is much stricter with time.I thank the Scottish Government for its many investments in rail, especially those that have...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)
SNP
I must say at the outset, for absolute clarity, that, given the process that surrounds consultations, the transport minister could not have been clearer that...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I am glad to speak—quickly—in the debate, on an issue that, as we have heard, is of great interest to the people of Glasgow. I thank my colleague Councillor ...
Keith Brown
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Anne McTaggart
Lab
I am sorry, but I have only four minutes—unless the Presiding Officer is willing to give extra time.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
No.
Anne McTaggart
Lab
In relation to the stations in Glasgow that could be affected by closure, we need to consider the impact on our communities. For example, the elderly rely on...
Humza Yousaf (Glasgow) (SNP)
SNP
Following the members’ business debate at the end of January, I welcome a second opportunity to put on record my views. Since speaking in that debate, I have...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
We move now to closing speeches.10:02