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Meeting of the Parliament 15 March 2012

15 Mar 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Childcare
McDonald, Mark SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
It takes a brass neck for the Lib Dems to come to the chamber to complain about the affordability of childcare while they vote in coalition with the Tories at Westminster to remove tax credits from more than 73,000 families in Scotland and, as Malcolm Chisholm rightly pointed out, to decrease the amount that can be received for childcare costs from 80 to 70 per cent. That will have a detrimental impact on working families and single-parent families in Scotland.

Liz Smith said in reply to the cabinet secretary’s intervention that it is better to be in work than on benefits. These people are in work: they receive tax credits because they are in work. The policy that is being pursued by Liz Smith’s party—the Conservative Party—and the Liberal Democrats in government at Westminster is harming working families. These are not well-off working families; there is often a misconception that only the well-off will be affected by the changes. We are talking about any lone-parent family that earns more than £26,000 per year, and any two-parent family that earns more than £32,000 per year, which would be two people earning around £16,500 each—that is well below the national average. Those are the people who will be harmed by that policy and who will find it all the more difficult to afford childcare as a result.

I class myself as a parent first and a politician second, and the issue of affordable childcare is close to my heart. I have often spoken to other parents about it when I have been picking my son up from nursery or playgroup. I am well aware of the pressures that people face in finding affordable childcare. The difficulty is often not with the childcare that councils provide but with private sector childcare, and I think that the Government recognises that that must be addressed. We have to try to work with private sector partners wherever possible to ensure that they are delivering affordable and accessible childcare.

Although no one will deny that we need to consider such issues, I think that it is excellent news that the Scottish Government is increasing funded nursery provision for three and four-year olds and looked-after two-year-olds to 600 hours per week. I am pleased that Mr Bibby welcomed the announcement in his usual charitable fashion, neglecting to mention that, in the previous session, this Government increased provision 20 per cent and in doing so benefited 100,000 children in Scotland.

That is not the only area in which we have a positive story to tell. We have not only delivered increased provision in free nursery education but invested £10 million in the early years early action fund and the child poverty strategy, which sets out how we will tackle child poverty; developed the BA course in childhood practice, which 1,000 students are taking; and supported local implementation of the early years framework. In my home city of Aberdeen, through the 3Rs—or reorganise, renovate, rebuild—schools project, we have developed state-of-the-art facilities, including the fantastic developmental nursery at Seaton, which is delivering for some of the most vulnerable youngsters in our city. That is a positive story that we can tell.

Mr McArthur should not stand up and say, “All you get from the SNP is negative, negative, negative.” We have an extremely positive story to tell and we will continue to tell it to the people of Scotland, who have recognised as much. After all, we have 68 MSPs and the Liberal Democrats five—or should I say four? Clearly, having to stay for the entire debate and hear exactly what his party is delivering was just a little bit too much for Mr Scott.

We have a positive story to tell, which we will continue to tell, and the people of Scotland will respect that.

09:56

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
Good morning. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02338, in the name of Liam McArthur, on childcare.09:15
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As Liberal Democrat education spokesman since last May, I have had the chance to participate in debates that have covered most aspects of how our education s...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Taking all that into consideration, how will the move by Mr McArthur’s party, as part of the UK Government, to withdraw tax credits from 73,300 Scottish fami...
Liam McArthur LD
I am grateful to Mark McDonald for again coming up with the standard stump speech from Scottish National Party members about things for which they do not hav...
Liam McArthur LD
I am not sure what message that sends to the authors of the report or to those who are struggling day and daily with the problems that the report clearly ide...
Aileen Campbell SNP
With all this negativity, will the member not at least try to concede that we should welcome the bold and ambitious target that the First Minister has set fo...
Liam McArthur LD
I am being accused of negativity by an SNP minister. Now, there’s a thing.If we are to answer the First Minister’s plea for this united front to be successfu...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I accept that there are issues for the Scottish Government to look at in the forthcoming legislation, including Liam McArthur’s suggestions about what is hap...
Liam McArthur LD
I am well aware of the concern that Mr Chisholm reiterates. However, the £300 million that has been invested in the childcare support element of universal cr...
The Minister for Children and Young People (Aileen Campbell) SNP
I am proud to open the debate for the Government, because it comes after the First Minister’s hugely important announcement on childcare at the weekend. The ...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
Given the commitments that were made in 2007, and to which Mr McArthur referred, why has it taken so long to get to this stage? When will the Government’s pa...
Aileen Campbell SNP
We are committed to making improvements to the life chances of children across Scotland and to introducing potential legislation next year. We will work with...
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP) SNP
Would the minister be interested to hear that, at the Welfare Reform Committee meeting the other day, not one of the groups that represented civic Scotland h...
Aileen Campbell SNP
Annabelle Ewing raises a very good point, to which Liam McArthur should pay close attention.We have committed to increasing early learning and childcare prov...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Liam McArthur for introducing the debate, and pay tribute to childcare providers in Scotland, such as North Edinburgh Childcare, which I visited last...
Aileen Campbell SNP
Will Neil Bibby welcome the commitment that the First Minister made at the weekend to 600 hours of free early education and childcare?
Neil Bibby Lab
I thank the minister for raising that issue, to which I will come shortly.Parents in Scotland are being hit by a double whammy. They are, first, being hit by...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I remind Neil Bibby of my announcement about engaging with the third sector to identify gaps. Will he welcome that move, if not the 600 hours?
Neil Bibby Lab
Absolutely, I will. As I said, we need to engage with children’s charities and national organisations, so of course we welcome that.We need a model in which ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Liz Smith.09:39
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer.
Gavin Brown Con
Presiding Officer.
Liz Smith Con
I apologise, Presiding Officer.I thank the Liberals for bringing the debate to Parliament. Nobody in any political party in Parliament doubts how important t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell) SNP
Liz Smith uses the phrase that the solution “is the right one”. Can she equate that with the report from the Institute for Fiscal Studies that shows that the...
Liz Smith Con
What is right is the principle that it is better to be in work than on benefits. I fully accept that the coalition needs to revise details of its policy and ...
Margaret Burgess (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
I think that we all agree that supporting children in their earliest years gives them opportunities for learning and development that make a huge difference ...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
Does Margaret Burgess accept that the extra £300 million that we are putting in through universal credit for childcare support is a positive thing?
Margaret Burgess SNP
What I accept is that through the Con-Dem Government people have lost out. Last year in North Ayrshire, 1,200 families lost an average of £450 a year. Incide...
John Park (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Today’s debate is timely. We have spent a lot of time talking about the impact on families, but I believe that the debate is clearly about the economy: it is...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
It takes a brass neck for the Lib Dems to come to the chamber to complain about the affordability of childcare while they vote in coalition with the Tories a...