Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 27 October 2011
27 Oct 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Raising Attainment and Ambition (Young People)
Although members around the chamber might disagree about the means by which to achieve this, we as parliamentarians are all motivated by our strong desire to ensure that our beloved Scotland can be the best country that it possibly can be and a land of opportunity for all who live here. It should shame us all as politicians that in 21st century Scotland far too many people still have little opportunity to achieve their potential—we share that characteristic with other parts of these isles. Often those individuals are dismissed as failures when, in truth, it is previous generations of politicians who have failed them.
For far too many young people and their parents, life is a struggle and there is little real hope on the horizon to spark and fuel their ambition. Sadly, our young people can have their life outcomes determined at birth by where they live rather than by their own inherent talents and potential. As Save the Children has stated, breaking the link between growing up in poverty and poor educational outcomes is vital to achieving the goal of raising attainment and ambition for all our young people.
If we as a Parliament are serious about doing that, I invite everyone in the chamber to welcome and support the Scottish Government’s initiatives in relation to the Scottish futures fund. In particular, I welcome two elements of the fund. First, the youth talent fund will encourage the very best of talent in all parts of the country. It represents an investment in young people of £50 million, which will help to widen opportunities in the arts and creative apprenticeship programmes for the young, where job opportunities in their area do not match their generation’s enormous talent and ability. Secondly, the sure start fund, which will also receive £50 million, has at its heart a determination to transform the life chances of thousands of newborn Scots. The SFF therefore includes commitments to provide financial support for young people right through from birth to adulthood.
The Scottish Government has signalled a decisive shift towards preventative spending measures, which are about investing now to save money and reduce negative social outcomes later. Those measures will be of particular benefit to Scotland’s young people. In giving evidence to the Finance Committee yesterday, the Royal Society of Edinburgh and the Centre for Public Policy for Regions supported that shift and praised the Government for that brave decision. That is a view shared by the Labour MP for Nottingham North, Graham Allen MP, who stated in his evidence to the Finance Committee:
“As for where the balance lies, I do not wish to flatter the committee, but Scotland has achieved a much better balance than England.”—[Official Report, Finance Committee, 28 September 2011; c 105.]
I believe that Parliament should echo those sentiments and I welcome the Scottish Government’s wider investments in and commitments to young people. Some have been mentioned already: the spending review will fund a record number of 125,000 modern apprenticeships over the next five years; Angela Constance has mentioned the activity agreements; and the Government’s “Putting Learners at the Centre” paper, published in September, reaffirms the Scottish National Party’s commitment to young people. We have a long-standing commitment to do everything we can to lessen the risk and harm of unemployment for young people.
I know all colleagues across the chamber will also recognise the importance of Scotland’s colleges in delivering the training and skills to help our young people fulfil their ambition. Clearly, in these difficult times, the Scottish Government has been forced to make some difficult decisions, which I acknowledge will be a challenge for the sector. However, the college sector has always been a can-do sector and I hope that by enhancing existing interregional collaboration the colleges will rise to that challenge.
In light of Ken Macintosh’s animated intervention earlier on college sector funding, I want to expand on a point I made in the Finance Committee yesterday, when we heard from representatives of the CPPR and the RSE. It is true that over the period from 2011-12 to 2014-15, there will be a 13.6 per cent decrease in college sector funding in cash terms in Scotland—that is, a reduction from £545 million to £471 million—but the comparable decrease in funding for the United Kingdom Government’s spending in England’s college sector is from £4.3 billion to £3.2 billion, or a fall of 25 per cent in cash terms, even before allowing for the impact of inflation. In other words, the fall in spending on the college sector in England is almost double that in Scotland, despite an implied 25 per cent Barnett consequential.
For far too many young people and their parents, life is a struggle and there is little real hope on the horizon to spark and fuel their ambition. Sadly, our young people can have their life outcomes determined at birth by where they live rather than by their own inherent talents and potential. As Save the Children has stated, breaking the link between growing up in poverty and poor educational outcomes is vital to achieving the goal of raising attainment and ambition for all our young people.
If we as a Parliament are serious about doing that, I invite everyone in the chamber to welcome and support the Scottish Government’s initiatives in relation to the Scottish futures fund. In particular, I welcome two elements of the fund. First, the youth talent fund will encourage the very best of talent in all parts of the country. It represents an investment in young people of £50 million, which will help to widen opportunities in the arts and creative apprenticeship programmes for the young, where job opportunities in their area do not match their generation’s enormous talent and ability. Secondly, the sure start fund, which will also receive £50 million, has at its heart a determination to transform the life chances of thousands of newborn Scots. The SFF therefore includes commitments to provide financial support for young people right through from birth to adulthood.
The Scottish Government has signalled a decisive shift towards preventative spending measures, which are about investing now to save money and reduce negative social outcomes later. Those measures will be of particular benefit to Scotland’s young people. In giving evidence to the Finance Committee yesterday, the Royal Society of Edinburgh and the Centre for Public Policy for Regions supported that shift and praised the Government for that brave decision. That is a view shared by the Labour MP for Nottingham North, Graham Allen MP, who stated in his evidence to the Finance Committee:
“As for where the balance lies, I do not wish to flatter the committee, but Scotland has achieved a much better balance than England.”—[Official Report, Finance Committee, 28 September 2011; c 105.]
I believe that Parliament should echo those sentiments and I welcome the Scottish Government’s wider investments in and commitments to young people. Some have been mentioned already: the spending review will fund a record number of 125,000 modern apprenticeships over the next five years; Angela Constance has mentioned the activity agreements; and the Government’s “Putting Learners at the Centre” paper, published in September, reaffirms the Scottish National Party’s commitment to young people. We have a long-standing commitment to do everything we can to lessen the risk and harm of unemployment for young people.
I know all colleagues across the chamber will also recognise the importance of Scotland’s colleges in delivering the training and skills to help our young people fulfil their ambition. Clearly, in these difficult times, the Scottish Government has been forced to make some difficult decisions, which I acknowledge will be a challenge for the sector. However, the college sector has always been a can-do sector and I hope that by enhancing existing interregional collaboration the colleges will rise to that challenge.
In light of Ken Macintosh’s animated intervention earlier on college sector funding, I want to expand on a point I made in the Finance Committee yesterday, when we heard from representatives of the CPPR and the RSE. It is true that over the period from 2011-12 to 2014-15, there will be a 13.6 per cent decrease in college sector funding in cash terms in Scotland—that is, a reduction from £545 million to £471 million—but the comparable decrease in funding for the United Kingdom Government’s spending in England’s college sector is from £4.3 billion to £3.2 billion, or a fall of 25 per cent in cash terms, even before allowing for the impact of inflation. In other words, the fall in spending on the college sector in England is almost double that in Scotland, despite an implied 25 per cent Barnett consequential.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
Good morning. I remind members to switch off all mobile phones and electronic devices.The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01134, in the name...
The Minister for Children and Young People (Angela Constance)
SNP
I am delighted to open this morning’s debate. Apart from allowing me to outline the Government’s ambitions for all of our children and young people, it also ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD)
LD
The minister will be well aware that there is cross-party support for what is set out in GIRFEC. She may also be aware that the Education and Culture Committ...
Angela Constance
SNP
Liam McArthur is right that, despite the fact that Scotland is a small country, the implementation of the early years framework and GIRFEC is uneven. That is...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
I cannot disagree with the intent behind the minister’s words, but I question the actions that are being taken and the implementation. With regard to post-16...
Angela Constance
SNP
As Mr Macintosh well knows, this Government, through its work with the Scottish Further and Higher Education Funding Council, will ensure that the £2 billion...
Ken Macintosh
Lab
In the middle of that answer, the minister said that the Government is still committed to maintaining student numbers. Could she further clarify that point? ...
Angela Constance
SNP
We are meeting our commitments and we will be doing the best by children and young people, starting in the early years and going right through to post-16 edu...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to have the opportunity to debate attainment and the achievements of our young people. This is the first chance in the current session of Parlia...
Angela Constance
SNP
I remind Mr Macintosh that this Government has invested £4 million in activity agreements that have reached out to children who are furthest away from educat...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Mr Macintosh, you can be assured that, following that very lengthy intervention, you will get additional time.
Ken Macintosh
Lab
Thank you very much.My argument was not that the Government is in hock to vested interests; it was that it is taking a rather elitist approach to education. ...
Angela Constance
SNP
What is elitist about our leadership on and investment in the early years? We are the first Government to really grasp the nettle of preventative spend, whic...
Ken Macintosh
Lab
If the Government were committed to early years intervention, we would be with it entirely, but the trouble is that the talk is there, but the £50 million ch...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Can we hear the member, please?
Ken Macintosh
Lab
Glasgow City Council, which has been trying for years to invest in nurture groups, is continually criticised by the Government for the work that it does. Int...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell)
SNP
Will the member give way?
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The member is over his time.
Ken Macintosh
Lab
The basic EMA is still there, but all the additional money to retain people has gone.Schools of ambition have gone, colleges’ funding has been cut, EMAs have...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
I will refocus attention on the subject of the debate. I do not think that there is a more important subject for debate than how we should raise attainment f...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
As a former teacher, I find Liz Smith’s arguments about the inability of the present management structure to connect well with curriculum for excellence extr...
Liz Smith
Con
David Cameron put the argument across strongly when the Education and Culture Committee took evidence. The curriculum for excellence allows individual school...
Paul Wheelhouse (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Although members around the chamber might disagree about the means by which to achieve this, we as parliamentarians are all motivated by our strong desire to...
Ken Macintosh
Lab
Does Mr Wheelhouse simply judge the success or failure of Scottish policies on whether they are better than English policies?
Paul Wheelhouse
SNP
No, indeed not. This debate has been characterised by reference to Scottish Government cuts and people need to recognise that, within a tight financial settl...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
A report that was published in the Sunday Herald last weekend, which has been referred to many times already in the debate, showed just how clear the link be...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP)
SNP
First, I apologise for my voice; I have man flu. As all the women in the chamber know, men have difficulty with dealing with a slight cold.When I came to the...
Ken Macintosh
Lab
Is Mr Adam guaranteeing that, when a child enters a class of 18 in primary 1, he will stay in a class of 18 throughout his school career?
George Adam
SNP
I was talking about your idea that there would be constant change throughout a child’s primary school education. That simply will not happen in any school.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Mr Adam, would you address your remarks through the chair, please? Thank you very much.