Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 15 September 2011
15 Sep 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Care Services (Procurement)
I welcome the staff of Quarriers who are sitting in the gallery. I ask the First Minister and the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy to speak to them today after First Minister’s questions about the impact that social care procurement has on the lives of the staff and the service users to whom they provide excellent care, and to step in to help everyone who is involved in the current pay and conditions dispute between the management and Unison. Those people represent the damage that is being done to our social care services throughout Scotland.
As many members know, I have been very vocal on the situation that the Quarriers staff and service users face. I understand the financial pressures that are forced on the organisation by local authorities, but I cannot stand back and allow the staff to bear the brunt of cost cutting that procurement has led to.
Like many others in the chamber, I strongly believe that local authorities have been using the procurement process to lower costs, and that there has been little focus on quality of care when services are retendered. Social care services provide essential care to the most vulnerable people in Scotland, and they require well-trained and qualified staff. Such services are a lifeline to many in society, and must not be provided on the cheap.
I will give members an example of how cuts to the third sector are harming the care of the elderly, the disabled and the vulnerable. This case, which was brought to my attention by Epilepsy Scotland, involves a young girl who is legally blind with no verbal capacity and has two or three full-blown seizures every night. She was formerly receiving weekly support, and is cared for by her mother while her father serves in Afghanistan. Her funding and care were not renewed, and the choices support was withdrawn.
That has had a huge detrimental impact not only on the girl’s wellbeing and care, but on her mother, who is a full-time carer with no respite. SNP members will howl and moan when I say that the problems of the economy and budgets were not caused by that young girl or other service users like her, but local authorities should be ashamed of the treatment of service users and the third sector as they cut budgets throughout Scotland.
The procurement process has its merits, but its advantages are being exploited to bring cuts to social care. When a local authority believes that care is insufficient, it is right to retender that service, but retendering is being done to cut costs. If we continue to retender services—particularly those that provide the greatest level of care—we will have a system that forces the third sector to its knees and in which competition is less about care and more about how low we can go. That will be a race to the bottom.
I call on the Scottish Government to introduce a minimum five-year term for social care contracts that are well funded, allow the organisations involved to plan for the longer term and give employees job security. Increasing the terms of contracts is essential for the stability of organisations such as Quarriers and for the quality of services that our vulnerable service users deserve.
Local authorities must consult the third sector and trade unions more to deliver a clear procurement system that has care—not cost—at its heart. A distinct approach must be taken—that can be done by consulting other bodies.
In previous years, many organisations in the third sector have taken massive steps to survive.
As many members know, I have been very vocal on the situation that the Quarriers staff and service users face. I understand the financial pressures that are forced on the organisation by local authorities, but I cannot stand back and allow the staff to bear the brunt of cost cutting that procurement has led to.
Like many others in the chamber, I strongly believe that local authorities have been using the procurement process to lower costs, and that there has been little focus on quality of care when services are retendered. Social care services provide essential care to the most vulnerable people in Scotland, and they require well-trained and qualified staff. Such services are a lifeline to many in society, and must not be provided on the cheap.
I will give members an example of how cuts to the third sector are harming the care of the elderly, the disabled and the vulnerable. This case, which was brought to my attention by Epilepsy Scotland, involves a young girl who is legally blind with no verbal capacity and has two or three full-blown seizures every night. She was formerly receiving weekly support, and is cared for by her mother while her father serves in Afghanistan. Her funding and care were not renewed, and the choices support was withdrawn.
That has had a huge detrimental impact not only on the girl’s wellbeing and care, but on her mother, who is a full-time carer with no respite. SNP members will howl and moan when I say that the problems of the economy and budgets were not caused by that young girl or other service users like her, but local authorities should be ashamed of the treatment of service users and the third sector as they cut budgets throughout Scotland.
The procurement process has its merits, but its advantages are being exploited to bring cuts to social care. When a local authority believes that care is insufficient, it is right to retender that service, but retendering is being done to cut costs. If we continue to retender services—particularly those that provide the greatest level of care—we will have a system that forces the third sector to its knees and in which competition is less about care and more about how low we can go. That will be a race to the bottom.
I call on the Scottish Government to introduce a minimum five-year term for social care contracts that are well funded, allow the organisations involved to plan for the longer term and give employees job security. Increasing the terms of contracts is essential for the stability of organisations such as Quarriers and for the quality of services that our vulnerable service users deserve.
Local authorities must consult the third sector and trade unions more to deliver a clear procurement system that has care—not cost—at its heart. A distinct approach must be taken—that can be done by consulting other bodies.
In previous years, many organisations in the third sector have taken massive steps to survive.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-00854, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on the procurement of social care services.10:27
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
How we care for the old, the vulnerable and the young is considered to demonstrate the essential character of a society, its values and its beliefs. The prov...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
We have quite a bit of time in hand, so I will be able to be generous with those who wish to speak for a little longer than the allocated time. I call Aileen...
The Minister for Local Government and Planning (Aileen Campbell)
SNP
I thank Jackie Baillie for raising such an interesting yet critical issue during this period of imposed austerity for Scottish public expenditure.Although I ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Does the minister not accept that a signal is perhaps being sent that the Government is reflecting producer interests in this debate?
Aileen Campbell
SNP
I think that we are sending a clear signal that this Government has a joined-up approach, and we are reflecting the importance of local government in the deb...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I hear what the minister is saying, but there has been a joint futures unit in the Scottish Government since we set it up in 2001 to integrate care. Is that ...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
We are taking forward that joint approach. The cabinet secretary will provide further detail later. As I said, we have been speaking to key people, but we mu...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
To that end, we are developing proposals to help partnerships develop joint commissioning strategies; we asked them to work on those strategies together with...
Bill Walker (Dunfermline) (SNP)
SNP
Does the minister agree that we are trying to make a virtue out of financial necessity—a financial necessity that has been forced on us not only by the coali...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
The member makes a very good point: the cuts that have been imposed on the Parliament were started by Labour and have been continued by the coalition.What is...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the member give way?
Aileen Campbell
SNP
I am in my last minute, and I have taken three interventions already.It is important that public bodies and service providers work together to find innovativ...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
I thank the Labour Party for giving us this opportunity to debate the procurement of social care services. Given the amount of information that I have on the...
Dr Simpson
Lab
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
I am afraid that the member is over her time.
Mary Scanlon
Con
I move amendment S4M-00854.1, to insert at end:“and calls on the Scottish Government to review the system of charges for care home places whereby, at present...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the staff of Quarriers who are sitting in the gallery. I ask the First Minister and the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
Will Mary Fee take an intervention?
Mary Fee
Lab
I am sorry—I do not have time.Operating costs have been reduced hugely through cuts to staff pay and changes to terms and conditions, for example. If we cont...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Will Mary Fee please wind up?
Mary Fee
Lab
The organisations that deliver our social care must not be attacked further. I call on the Government to protect organisations, staff and service users alike...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
I declare an interest, as I worked in the social care sector for more than 30 years. As a member of the third sector, I was very much involved in working wit...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I ask the member to come to a conclusion.
Dennis Robertson
SNP
I do not believe that we should compromise quality at any time. I thank the Labour Party for bringing the motion to the Parliament.11:01
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I, too, welcome the debate and, knowing full well Jackie Baillie’s integrity and intent on the questions, I am particularly happy to participate in it. Howev...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Does the member accept that the Scottish Government’s amendment is factually inaccurate because, actually, the Scottish Government budget rose year on year u...
Chic Brodie
SNP
No apology is needed, because Ms Baillie knows that the local government financial settlement for 2011-12 is exactly the same as it was for last year. The im...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
The motion that my colleague Mary Fee lodged encouraged Quarriers to go to the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service, which is the national organisa...
Chic Brodie
SNP
I am sure that Mary Fee knows as well as I do that direct discussions between management and the union were going on at that time, although I accept that the...