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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Presiding Officer’s Closing Remarks
It is actually so much easier when people are not saying nice things about you in the chair. Laughter.Seriously, though, friends—it is my privilege to make some remarks to close this last scheduled meeting of session 6. We began this session during the Covid pandemic, in a soc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Presiding Officer’s Closing Remarks
I have the great pleasure of handing over the microphone to our Presiding Officer, who wishes to address the chamber.16:48
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Presiding Officer’s Closing Remarks
16:47
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Decision Time
There is one question to be put as a result of today’s business. The question is, that motion S6M-21180, in the name of John Swinney, on a motion of thanks, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament expresses its thanks to its Presiding Officer, Alison Johnstone, for h...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Decision Time
16:47
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
That concludes the debate on the motion of thanks.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
Each member of our staff in this institution exhibits professionalism every day, and none more so than when circumstance and situation command it of them. When the Parliament needs to be in full sail in the eyes of the world, they have it thrumming like an America’s cup yacht....
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
I start by paying tribute to both Deputy Presiding Officers, and I echo the words that have been said about you. In particular, I say to Annabelle Ewing, what a loss you will be to the chamber—I wish you well with whatever comes next.There is a poignancy about today. I think a...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
This has been a hugely challenging session, so I want to be a wee bit more light hearted before turning to thanks for the Presiding Officer. I thank parliamentary and MSP staff, as others have done, for their work this session. We would not be able to do our jobs without them....
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
I will start by not only supporting the motion in the First Minister’s name but echoing all his comments.Presiding Officer, I thank you for your dedication over the past five years and for your dedication over 15 years to your constituents and to the great people of Scotland.T...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
Thank you, Presiding Officers, in the plural. Unlike at First Minister’s question time today, all you will hear from me just now are warm words in a soothing tone.I begin by thanking you, Presiding Officer, and your colleagues Annabelle Ewing and Liam McArthur. Your job is dif...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
I call Russell Findlay.16:30
The First Minister SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
I move,That the Parliament expresses its thanks to its Presiding Officer, Alison Johnstone, for her dedicated service to the Parliament; thanks her Deputy Presiding Officers, and pays tribute to all of those Members who are standing down at the end of this session.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
First Minister, could I possibly ask you to move the motion? Laughter.
The First Minister (John Swinney) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
As this sixth session of the Scottish Parliament comes to a close, I extend my thanks to the Presiding Officer and the Deputy Presiding Officers for the service that each of them has given to the Parliament over the past five years.The Presiding Officers have always managed th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
Before we turn to the next item of business, I hope that members do not mind if I say a few words. I would like to say specifically what an honour it has been for me to serve in the Scottish Parliament, which, of course, was reconvened by my late mother, Winnie Ewing, in 1999....
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Motion of Thanks
16:22
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Mar 2026
First Minister’s Question Time
12:01
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
That concludes portfolio question time. There will be a short pause before we move on to the next item of business.
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
I would say that, although I said in response to Clare Adamson that temporary accommodation is a vital safety net for families and individuals who find themselves facing homelessness, we must reduce the length of time that people spend in temporary accommodation and make rapid...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
In the past five years of the Government’s tenure, 17,811 children have been trapped in temporary accommodation for more than a year. Whoever is elected to this Parliament next month must commit to it never being repeated that so many children have had to suffer for so long. M...
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
That fund, which goes directly to councils to help them to turn around social voids quickly and to acquire family homes on the market, is a critical part of our response to the housing emergency, because although we are putting a huge amount of work into delivering more afford...
Clare Adamson SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
One of my most frustrating constituent issues is when people who are expecting to move into accommodation cannot do so because it is not ready on time, which can cause stress for families. Will the cabinet secretary explain how the targeted £80 million investment to support lo...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
I echo Clare Adamson’s thanks. On her question, temporary accommodation provides a vital safety net as part of our housing system in Scotland, but we, of course, want people to spend as little time as possible there.I will run through some of the actions that we have taken rec...
8. Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Accommodation
Forgive me, Presiding Officer, but I hope that you will indulge me, as I wish to thank all those working across the Parliament campus to support MSPs, including the clerks, the Scottish Parliament information centre and the legal teams, and I wish all my colleagues the very be...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Heating Oil Prices (Low-income Rural and Off-grid Households)
I call Clare Adamson, who joins us remotely.
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Heating Oil Prices (Low-income Rural and Off-grid Households)
I express the Government’s sympathy with those who are wrestling with dramatically increased oil prices, which will have come as a very unwelcome shock to households. Rona Mackay is absolutely right that the £4.6 million that the United Kingdom Government has allocated is abso...
Rona Mackay SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Heating Oil Prices (Low-income Rural and Off-grid Households)
I thank the cabinet secretary for that welcome response. One of my constituents has seen their heating oil bill triple overnight, has no savings and has been told to wait until April for support that amounts to pennies per household. Does the cabinet secretary agree that the £...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Heating Oil Prices (Low-income Rural and Off-grid Households)
Today, we have announced that the Scottish emergency heating oil scheme will be delivered by Advice Direct Scotland and will be open for applications from 1 April. The scheme will be available to users of both heating oil and liquefied petroleum gas. Low-income households and ...
7. Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Heating Oil Prices (Low-income Rural and Off-grid Households)
To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking through its fuel poverty programmes to support low-income rural and off-grid households that are unable to heat their homes due to the recent increase in heating oil prices. (S6O-05715)
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · More Homes Scotland (Affordable Housing and Homelessness)
: One of the main drivers—if not the main driver—of homelessness is poverty. More homes Scotland will help to drive forward the Government’s core priorities of eradicating child poverty and growing our economy. To do that, we must focus on building more social homes and maximi...
Elena Whitham SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · More Homes Scotland (Affordable Housing and Homelessness)
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests—I am a member of Shelter Scotland’s committee.Given that far too many children live in temporary accommodation, more homes Scotland must be integral to ending homelessness, and its creation is most welcome. To s...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · More Homes Scotland (Affordable Housing and Homelessness)
Increasing the supply of affordable homes is key to addressing housing need and critical to tackling homelessness. I am pleased to confirm that more homes Scotland will have a key focus on bringing speed, simplicity and scale to the delivery of more homes, including affordable...
6. Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · More Homes Scotland (Affordable Housing and Homelessness)
To ask the Scottish Government whether addressing affordable housing need and tackling homelessness will be more homes Scotland’s core mission. (S6O-05714)
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Social Housing Waiting Lists (Kirkcaldy)
At the end of my last answer, I noted the record funding that the Scottish Government is making available next year and in the coming four years for affordable homes. I do not want to see any underspends given that commitment. It is the responsibility of councils such as Fife ...
David Torrance SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Social Housing Waiting Lists (Kirkcaldy)
Given the sustained pressure on social housing waiting lists in the Kirkcaldy constituency, will the cabinet secretary outline how the Scottish Government can ensure that local authorities make full and effective use of the resources that are available to them, particularly in...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Social Housing Waiting Lists (Kirkcaldy)
I regularly meet Fife Council, and we discuss the local housing emergency, affordable housing supply, temporary accommodation and homelessness pressures. One of the most impactful ways to reduce the pressure on waiting lists is to deliver more affordable homes. In the Kirkcald...
5. David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Social Housing Waiting Lists (Kirkcaldy)
To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking in light of reports of increasing pressure on social housing waiting lists in the Kirkcaldy constituency, including how it plans to support local authorities and housing associations to expand the availability of affordab...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
I beg your pardon. That was my fault.
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
I never pressed the request-to-speak button.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
Fulton MacGregor has a supplementary question.
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
Equally, the prospect of scrapping the land and buildings transaction tax or stamp duty land tax is for the birds, and I am afraid that it demonstrates that the Conservatives realise that their chances of implementing any such policies are, to put it politely, very slim.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
Members!
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
Not for the first time—and probably not for the last—I completely disagree with Meghan Gallacher’s assessment. The individuals in Scotland who have benefited from our open market shared equity scheme do not consider it “inadequate”, as she has put it. I am sure that there are ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
My supplementary is on those first-time buyer schemes. The Scottish National Party has tried such schemes before, but with little to no success, because they do not address the fundamental problem, which is a severe lack of building the homes that we desperately need. Does the...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
I have heard from many young people—and, increasingly, not so young people—in Scotland for whom the hopeful prospect of owning their own home one day is becoming ever more distant. We all know that, by the end of the month, by the time that food costs, energy costs and rent ha...
4. Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · First-time Buyers
To ask the Scottish Government how it is supporting first-time buyers. (S6O-05712)
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
I agree with that. In my responses to Karen Adam, I was clear about local authorities’ responsibility to plan for that and the co-operation that we have with local authorities in making sure that it is delivered.I place on the record that the Scottish Government has committed ...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
Housing for older people is a key priority that is driven by an ageing population. Does the Scottish Government recognise that prioritising the right type of housing can improve quality of life and reduce the need for public services, particularly in health and social care?
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
I share Karen Adam’s view on the importance of specialist housing. To be clear, I expect local authorities to ensure that the housing needs of their older population are met through the provision of high-quality and well-maintained homes. In that regard, I am pleased to advise...
Karen Adam SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
Over the past five years, in representing Banffshire and Buchan Coast, I have met many older constituents who are deeply worried about the future of such complexes. Those cases have touched my heart, and they are urgent. Those people want to stay independent and they want home...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
Local authorities, as statutory housing authorities, are required to assess housing requirements locally and to set out how those will be met in their local housing strategies and development plans. That includes requirements for accessible, adaptable and wheelchair housing an...
3. Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Older People’s Housing
To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to ensure that older people’s housing, including sheltered housing, is prioritised in local housing planning and delivery. (S6O-05711)
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
This will probably be the last time that I will have the opportunity—at least in the chamber—to thank Jeremy Balfour for the work that we have undertaken together over the years. We have disagreed on many things, but we have also agreed on a lot, particularly on social securit...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
Does the cabinet secretary agree that ADP helps people to get into and stay in employment? If ADP is cut, more people in Scotland will have to claim other benefits because they are not able to work. I remind members that I am in receipt of higher-rate ADP.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
The Institute for Public Policy Research Scotland’s recent work on the issue is exceptionally important. During a recent visit to Glasgow to launch the anti-stigma campaign encouraging people to apply for social security and to get the money that they are entitled to, I was pa...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
I, too, am proud that the Scottish National Party Government continues to strengthen social security support and maximise incomes for our most vulnerable. The recent report by the Institute for Public Policy Research Scotland on the welfare state highlights that high spending ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
I would be delighted to do so, but the member will have to be exceptionally quick in progressing the matter, as she will be aware that the pre-election period is coming up. I would have been delighted to take that forward at an earlier point had she raised the matter with me s...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
A constituent of mine said:“I’ve been begging repeatedly for months for them to process my ADP claim, only to be ignored, told to contact charities or completely brushed off. We frequently go hungry due to severe financial hardship because I cannot afford to pay for essentials...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP Chamber
25 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Adult Disability Payment (Mental and Behavioural Disorders)
I am sure that, as a practising GP, Dr Gulhane is aware that fit notes are not used in relation to adult disability payment; that is an entirely different part of the social security system. The part that Social Security Scotland uses, which was built with the clients in mind,...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 09 June 2011

09 Jun 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Caring for Scotland’s Older People
I welcome the opportunity to open this debate on caring for Scotland’s older people. I can think of nothing more important that deserves the Parliament’s urgent attention.

We often remark that a society is judged by how it treats its young people, older people and most vulnerable people. Given the events of the past few weeks, I am afraid that we have been found wanting in the case of caring for our older people. Although much of the debate will focus on the challenges that we face, we must not lose sight of the fact that there are some really good care homes and excellent care providers across Scotland. However, it is a matter of considerable regret that some are just not fit for purpose.

In the past fortnight we have witnessed shockingly poor standards of care at the Elsie Inglis nursing home, the case of the most appalling treatment of Mrs V at Ninewells hospital in Dundee and the potential that Southern Cross Healthcare will go into administration, which threatens continuity of care for 4,700 of its elderly residents. There has been one problem after another. It appears from my mailbag that those are not isolated incidents, and that concerns about standards of care are emerging in different parts of Scotland.

Elsie Inglis nursing home is but a stone’s throw from Parliament. The poor standards of care there have resulted in two residents dying and six being admitted to hospital. There have been distressing reports of residents sleeping on stained and ripped mattresses and being forced to eat food with their hands, and of open wounds and sores being evident. In 2010 alone, there were 20 separate recorded outbreaks of infection affecting 72 residents. Yet, just a year earlier, the Scottish Commission for the Regulation of Care inspected the home and gave it a good report. Relatives of old people studied those reports before securing places in the home for them, believing that it would provide their loved ones with a good standard of care. They have little confidence in those reports now.

How could something go wrong so quickly? What will happen in the future under the new risk-based approach to assessment? The care commission joined with the Social Work Inspection Agency on 1 April to create a new body: Social Care and Social Work Improvement Scotland—otherwise known as SCSWIS. It is not exactly the most user-friendly title, but I believe that it is right to bring together inspection and improvement in seeking to raise the standards of care across the sector and the country. What was not right was to start the new organisation off with an overall budget cut of almost 25 per cent and, by the end of this year, a staff reduction of just under 20 per cent—that is a recipe for trouble.

Let us remember that the new care inspectorate is not responsible for inspection only of care homes for older people, but that it also inspects a range of children’s services and other adult services. So, the new organisation is starting out with a huge range of responsibilities but fewer resources to deal with them effectively. We have moved to a position in which the new care inspectorate will base its inspection regime on a system of online self-assessments, with targeted unannounced inspections of a smaller number of care homes. There is to be a greater maximum period between inspections for better-performing services and more focus on poorly performing services. We are therefore moving from a position in which there were twice-yearly inspections to much less frequent inspections in cases of good-performing homes.

Although that may, on the face of it, seem to be entirely reasonable, it is less than clear what would trigger more attention from the inspectorate. How is risk determined? I would hate to think that there could be a scenario in which people who are skilled at filling in self-assessment forms could escape inspection for longer periods but may not operate to the standards of care that we would deem acceptable.

Might I offer a little observation on self-assessment more generally? It was a system of self-assessment that was in place for health boards to report on their activities in relation to hospital-acquired infections and it was a system of self-assessment that underpinned infection control in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde and which operated in the Vale of Leven hospital, which witnessed the worst outbreak of Clostridium difficile in the United Kingdom, so members will forgive me if I am slightly cautious about self-assessment systems.

I will go back to the care centres and take the Elsie Inglis care home as an example. It had a good report; there were no problems a year ago. The first intervention of the inspectorate appeared to be in April, but I know from relatives who have e-mailed me that there were concerns in October last year. Was the care commission aware of that? Could it have acted sooner? Would the new risk-based assessment approach have helped or hindered the process? If problems were identified more than six months ago, it is unforgivable that action to close the home was taken only in the past fortnight.

If we are serious about inspecting and improving standards of care, we need to ensure that the new inspectorate has the resources to do so. It cannot start life with one hand already tied behind its back. I welcome the cabinet secretary’s personal commitment to making care of the elderly a priority. I had hoped that that would have been the case during the past four years of the Parliament, but I welcome the renewed focus. However, I would be grateful if she would outline what that “personal commitment” will mean. What differences will be made to policy? What resources will be in place? How can the cabinet secretary ensure that the standards of care remain the highest possible? I respectfully suggest that a welcome sign of her intent would be to reverse the budget cut to the new care inspectorate, but from her amendment I see that she is unlikely to do so, and that is truly disappointing.

In the context of the recent news about Southern Cross care homes, will the cabinet secretary consider giving the care inspectorate responsibility for addressing the financial viability of care providers as a condition of continued registration? The situation at Southern Cross is serious. The possibility of the company going into administration has been known for some months now. With 98 care homes and 4,700 residents, Southern Cross is the largest private care provider in Scotland. There were more than 3,000 staff in Scotland, but after yesterday’s announcement of job losses, there will be 400 fewer, which will have a direct impact on the quality of care. Frankly, Southern Cross is putting its shareholders’ interests before the care needs of its elderly residents. That is shocking and should be condemned by all parties in the chamber. It is becoming increasingly likely that Southern Cross will go into administration and our paramount consideration should be the continuity of care for the elderly residents.

The scale of that challenge is such that it cannot be left to 32 individual local authorities; it must be for the Scottish Government to develop the contingency plan. I know that some local authorities have done little in the way of contingency planning, while others openly acknowledge that they will be unable to cope with relocating all the elderly residents because they lack local capacity. Others have said that they will need to use hospital beds, which will take our policy on care for the elderly back decades.

Local authorities also point out that they have powers to take over the running of care homes in emergencies, although few can afford to do so. That might not be required for every Southern Cross care home, but it might apply to a few where there is no local capacity. In those cases, will the Scottish Government make emergency resources available, should that be necessary in the short term?

Last week, the First Minister said that the cabinet secretary was in “daily” contact about Southern Cross, but we have discovered that, by that point, only two meetings had taken place: one in March and one in April, and those were with Scottish Government officials. That information came from a written answer to my colleague Neil Findlay on 2 June, which was the very same day that the First Minister said that contact was “daily”. There is a real need for urgency in the Scottish Government’s approach. Sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what will happen is not the proactive approach that I expect the Government to take in ensuring that our older people are protected and cared for.

I will comment briefly on the case of Mrs V at Ninewells hospital. She suffered from dementia and died in hospital at the age of 80. The indignity of her treatment was quite extraordinary. Mrs V was not given any food orally and when she became distressed at that, the response was to medicate her. In the space of 16 days, she was administered with 95 separate doses of sedative. Her care and treatment were described by the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland as

“degrading, unnecessary, and may have breached her human rights”.

I welcome the new dementia care standards, but we must ensure that those standards are the norm across every health board and in every hospital and care home, so that what happened to Mrs V does not happen to any other older person.

For me, what all those cases have exposed is that older people and their relatives feel quite powerless and confused in navigating our care systems. They place their loved ones in homes after following all the advice, reading all the inspection reports and even visiting the homes themselves, but that still does not offer comfort. They complain but feel that nothing is done and are not convinced that lessons are learned more widely across the system. They need someone who is very much on their side—someone who is independent of Government and who can look across care and hospital services and give voice to the wider concerns of older people more generally. In short, they need an older people’s champion. By working with all levels of government, voluntary organisations such as Age Scotland and older people themselves, such a person could help to drive fundamental change. I hope that the Government will give that proposal serious consideration, and I will be happy to discuss it further with the cabinet secretary.

I turn to prevention and resources. In many areas of Scotland, local authorities are struggling. For the first time, they are making cuts to care services and introducing charges, which is resulting in some older people cancelling services such as community alarms. Different approaches to charging are being adopted by neighbouring local authorities—a service that costs £30 in one area can cost £300 in the area next door. I first raised that issue two years ago, but those differences still exist.

The national eligibility framework for determining who should receive care sets out priorities. Understandably, those who are in the most acute and critical need are top of the list, but there are swathes of people with lower-level needs who will not be provided with a service because budgets are just too tight. I hope that the Government will ensure that local authorities collect data so that we can capture and identify the scale of the unmet need. That approach flies in the face of everything that we in this Parliament and the Government have said about prevention. We all know that prevention is the real prize. Even though prevention is cost effective, and it is much better for the individual to be sustained in their community without the need for more formal care, cuts are being made to some community-based services that do not cost a lot of money, and which have the potential to save in the long term. It is a matter of regret that prevention on the basis of what is happening on the ground remains an aspiration rather than a reality.

Many of the organisations that are involved in the provision of care at local level are leading the way in preventative work, but they are being squeezed, too. The terms and conditions of staff who work in the voluntary sector are being substantially diminished. Some care staff are being asked to take a wage cut from £17,000 a year to £13,000 a year, while others are being asked to work on zero-hours contracts—they are being asked to do more, but they are being paid less. Worryingly, there is evidence of the emergence of cuts to training budgets, with the result that care staff are being forced to do their own training in their own time and to fund it themselves. It is inevitable that that will have an impact on the quality of the care service that is provided, so there is an urgent need for us to look again at procurement policies and to put in place minimum standards that seek to protect the quality of care.

I turn to the challenge ahead. Before the debate is over, we will all have swapped figures to illustrate the scale of the demographic change that we face. Whether we cite the statistic that there will be 75 per cent more 75-year-olds in about 15 years or the one that the number of people over 60 will rise to 50 per cent of the population by 2033, what is clear is that the status quo is not an option. Scotland’s population is getting older and we are living longer.

However, not all of our older people need care. About 90 per cent of them are sustained in their own homes and communities with very limited input from care services, so we should think about older people not in the context of their care but in the context of what they offer our communities: experience, time and knowledge. Many of them are the volunteers who make our communities strong, but they need to know that should the time come when they need care, it will be there for them.

Labour believes that we will cope with that demographic change only by integrating health and social care and by having a local service with local accountability that is based on reformed community health partnerships and involves general practitioners, but which has one clear priority, which is to focus on the care of older people. The issue is not about structural change; it is about a better vision for the care of our older people, and I am happy to co-operate with the Government on that.

I move,

That the Parliament welcomes the Scottish Government’s new focus on the care for older people; further welcomes the commitment given by the First Minister that vulnerable residents in Southern Cross homes will not be compromised as a result of Southern Cross’s business model; notes with concern the report by the Mental Welfare Commission regarding the appalling treatment of Mrs V at Ninewells Hospital and the recent disturbing events at the Elsie Inglis Nursing Home in Edinburgh where standards of care were totally inadequate; further notes that one in 10 of the city’s care homes have been criticised and deemed weak or unsatisfactory in at least one area of assessment in the past year; believes that the 25% cut to the budget of Social Care and Social Work Improvement Scotland (SCSWIS), charged with the inspection and improvement of care standards, should be reversed; agrees that radical reform of community health partnerships is urgently required following the serious failings identified in a recent Audit Scotland report; recognises that funding prevention work will delay services for older people requiring formal care; believes that the care and safety of Scotland’s older and vulnerable people must be a major priority for the Scottish Government, and therefore calls on it to come forward urgently with plans to integrate health and social care so that Scotland’s older people and their families can have full confidence that they will receive the best possible standard of care when they need it.

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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
Good morning. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-00234, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on caring for Scotland’s older people.09:15
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to open this debate on caring for Scotland’s older people. I can think of nothing more important that deserves the Parliament’s urg...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
I begin by doing what I failed to do yesterday when I spoke, which was to welcome Michael Matheson to his new role and to say how much I am looking forward t...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am very grateful to Nicola Sturgeon for giving way. One of the major concerns for residents is the future of the homes. Has the cabinet secretary had any d...
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
A variety of discussions of that nature are taking place, as the member would expect. I am sure that landlords of the homes will be having discussions with a...
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the fact that the cabinet secretary has spoken directly to COSLA and that discussions are continuing. Have the cabinet secretary’s officials been t...
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
The Government has a direct interest not only in ensuring that plans are in place overall but in ensuring that arrangements are in place authority by authori...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
I will take one more intervention on Southern Cross, but I have to make progress.
Neil Findlay Lab
Thank you. West Lothian Council advises me that its contingency plans include seeking placements for residents with other local authorities, suspending respi...
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
I have already said, in response to an earlier intervention, that the presumption that underpins our contingency arrangements is that older people will not b...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
I have a lot of material to get through, but if the Presiding Officer will bear with me, I will take an intervention.
Jackie Baillie Lab
It is really just to correct what the cabinet secretary said. For the record, I have received no such e-mail.
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
I have a copy of it here, so I am sure that Jackie Baillie will take it up with the leader of West Lothian Council. I am holding a copy of an e-mail to Ms Ba...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the Labour Party for using its time to debate this topic and I commend Jackie Baillie for her well-considered and measured speech.An estimated £4.5 b...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. I remind members that they have six minutes in which to speak. We have a wee bit of time in hand, so if you take interventions we...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Today’s debate addresses a significant issue that is facing the new Scottish Government. Scotland has an ageing population. People are living longer but not ...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
As a returning MSP, I have to say that it is a great privilege to make my first speech in what, to me, is a new Parliament. It is also an honour and a respon...
Neil Findlay Lab
Perhaps the people in Strathkelvin and Bearsden buy food for their older people in M and S, but where I come from many certainly do not.
Fiona McLeod SNP
I apologise—I was probably being a bit flippant. All I was trying to say was that older people in such situations tend to eat something in a plastic microwav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I call John Finnie, to be followed by Alex Johnstone. John Finnie is making his first speech in the chamber.10:01
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Care of our older people has always been a priority, and older people were the major beneficiaries of the achievements of the previous Government, which deli...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate John Finnie on his maiden speech and I welcome the fact that he raised a number of constructive issues that we will need to deal with in the d...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Does the member acknowledge that the overall spending on social care, particularly for older people, runs to billions of pounds and that free personal care i...
Alex Johnstone Con
Indeed, but I believe that it is indicative of the problem that our commitment to such things will always be more expensive than we hoped it would be.I want ...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Does the member accept the point that the private sector is good in some areas but there are other areas in which profit-driven motivation is neither require...
Alex Johnstone Con
I do not believe that there is any evidence to support the idea that the public sector is somehow intrinsically better than the private sector, and I do not ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Bill Walker, who is making his first speech.10:13
Bill Walker (Dunfermline) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am proud to be the first Scottish National Party MSP for the Dunfermline constituency, which comprises both the city of Dunfe...