Committee
Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change Committee 22 February 2011
22 Feb 2011 · S3 · Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change Committee
Item of business
“Public Bodies Climate Change Duties: Putting Them Into Practice” and “A Low Carbon Economic Strategy for Scotland”
Some of what I have just said relates to that, particularly with regard to the conference and our desire to have it happen every single year. It is about creating a climate of confidence in Scotland.The low-carbon investment project has been trying to quantify the funding requirements of the sector, particularly in relation to the 2020 targets. A lot of what the Government can do involves enabling the sector to understand what will be required across the board.We have ambitious targets, but a lot of interest and energy is being generated. Laughter. I am sorry: the puns are not intentional, however much they may leak out.Unfortunately, we are in a climate in which investment is a difficult issue for everyone to handle. Every single one of us will have dealt with companies that have found it almost impossible to get bank support for things that they are trying to do or which have had support withdrawn at crucial times and all the rest of it.I would not ever have wanted us to try to do something as dynamic and forward looking as this at a time when there are such difficulties. However, notwithstanding the difficulties and the slightly risk-averse nature of some of the big investment vehicles, I believe that we are beginning to identify effectively other sources of finance, and that will continue.We are trying to identify and leverage private sector expertise, because sometimes it is not just about money but about identifying where the expertise and skills are. We have to do that; it is part and parcel of the process in which we are involved.We are also exploring new financing models as part of the £70 million national renewables infrastructure fund. We are doing everything that we can across as wide a range of sectors as possible to achieve what we need to take the strategy forward.The most important thing is that we are doing that work in partnership, not only with other Government agencies but across the private sector and the remainder of the public sector. The investment conference, for example, was run commercially by the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce. It did not need Scottish Government money, but it needed the Government to be a partner in the project, which was run on a commercial basis.
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The Convener
Green
The next item gives us an opportunity to take evidence from the Minister for Environment and Climate Change, Roseanna Cunningham, on two documents: “Public B...
The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Roseanna Cunningham)
SNP
Thank you for the invitation, convener. Because we are covering two documents, my remarks are a minute or two longer than the five minutes that I would norma...
The Convener
Green
That is fine. Thank you, minister. Let us set the scene a little further. You mentioned the decarbonisation of electricity generation in your remarks on the ...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
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The Convener
Green
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Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
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The Convener
Green
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Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
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The Convener
Green
What is your response to the view expressed by the Sustainable Development Commission in its most recent assessment report that the Government could be doing...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
First, we have to remind ourselves that the strategy is not a once-and-for-all document that is written in concrete for ever and anon. It will be a dynamic p...
Jackson Carlaw (West of Scotland) (Con)
Con
I have a follow-up question on the point that you made about motor vehicles. Obviously, the more quickly that we can move towards having a large percentage o...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
I hesitate to tiptoe into the portfolio area of one of my colleagues. I indicated that a low-carbon vehicle action plan was about to be published, but that i...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab)
Lab
I will explore issues around investment. The low-carbon economic strategy highlights the significant challenge of the funding that is required to develop low...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
We have recently announced the £70 million national renewables infrastructure fund, which is one of the big commitments that we are making.When we talk about...
Cathy Peattie
Lab
Are you confident that we can move forward? Will the 2020 group help to facilitate the partnership between Government and the private sector?
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Yes. It is already doing precisely that. Shortly after I had a meeting with Ian Marchant from the 2020 group, I had a meeting in the same building with the c...
Cathy Peattie
Lab
I look forward to reading it when it comes out.I was going to develop some of those points but I think that you have answered some of my next questions.
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Sorry.
Cathy Peattie
Lab
No, that is fine. I am happy that you have answered them.I am interested in how the Government can “influence the development of a new financial architecture...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Some of what I have just said relates to that, particularly with regard to the conference and our desire to have it happen every single year. It is about cre...
Cathy Peattie
Lab
Did you find the conference helpful in developing that partnership for future investment?
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
I was not at the conference myself, as it predated my current job. However, all the outcomes from it suggest to me that it was a positive exercise, which is ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD)
LD
In reporting on the RPP, the committee expressed a concern that there could be delays in implementing some parts of it, as the Government is reliant in some ...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Indeed I can. Coincidentally, I met the EU commissioner who is responsible for dealing with climate change a couple of weeks ago, and that was the precise ar...
Rob Gibson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
On that subject, there is a note in today’s Financial Times that Britain, Germany and Poland are not taking a full part in the trading scheme arrangements. I...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
I do not read the Financial Times on a regular basis. I certainly know that Poland is one of the countries where there is considerable scepticism. I would be...
Rob Gibson
SNP
It was Germany.
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Sorry, I meant Britain and Germany. I would be surprised if Britain was being a little more negative than I would have hoped. We will continue to press the U...
Alison McInnes
LD
I am reassured by what I hear from the minister. You have explained the dialogue that takes place, particularly with the EU, and that is useful. Scotland can...
Roseanna Cunningham
SNP
Yes.