Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 03 March 2011
03 Mar 2011 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Damages (Scotland) Bill
I begin by paying tribute to Bill Butler for bringing the bill before the Parliament. Without his intervention, the bill, following the excellent work by the Scottish Law Commission, would not have proceeded in the Parliament. That would not have been right, as someone who is facing death because of the actions or negligence of others or someone who is seeking damages for the loss of a loved one should not have to endure an unnecessarily protracted and demanding legal process in order to obtain damages to which they are entitled.
It is right to recognise the work that the Justice Committee did on the bill, and I entirely associate myself with the minister’s words in relation to the former convener. I also congratulate Thompsons Solicitors, which worked with Bill Butler in providing advice throughout the process. That dialogue has been all about securing legislation that will be effective and which can be passed today with cross-party support. Once again, the Scottish Parliament can take action to protect the rights of people seeking damages.
We must recognise two difficult issues that the minister spoke about. The first concerns the proposal for the standard 25 per cent deduction for living expenses. In the Labour Party, we were eager for that proposal to be adopted as it appeared in the bill as introduced. In particular, we believed that it would help to address undercompensation in instances in which, for example, a dying victim is unwilling or unable to extend negotiations or take the matter to court—in effect, when they are forced by circumstances to accept a larger deduction for living expenses than is fair or appropriate. Given that most fatal damages claims involve people suffering from mesothelioma, such situations are not, unfortunately, uncommon.
The Scottish Government was concerned that applying a rigid standard 25 per cent reduction might not produce an accurate or fair result in absolutely every case, and that it could result in undercompensation—in what I feel would be rare circumstances. However, that concern resulted in dialogue on the issue, from which came the proposal that the 25 per cent reduction should apply, but with an exception for cases where it would be “manifestly and materially unfair”.
We previously expressed concerns that such an exception could open the door to further delay in court, due to routine challenges to the 25 per cent figure, but we have been reassured by the minister that the term “manifestly and materially unfair” sets a high enough bar, ensuring that such cases will be exceptional. The great majority of cases will benefit from speedier progress through the courts with the application of a 25 per cent deduction. We are comforted on that point, which we believe is crucial for the victims in such cases.
The second key issue is that of disregarding spousal income when determining compensation. As we have discussed, concerns were expressed at committee that stage 2 amendments have made the provisions not quite as explicit as we might have hoped. For the avoidance of doubt, the minister has made it clear today that, in the vast majority of circumstances, spousal income will indeed be disregarded. We can be confident that we have been properly reassured on that point, too.
I hope that we can also be confident that, although the bill might have changed, the central ambition behind it remains intact. I hope that we will pass into law today provisions that ensure not only fairer damages for what victims have suffered due to the negligence of others, but an easier and less protracted legal process by which damages are awarded. Those who seek such damages deserve no less, and I congratulate Bill Butler once again on fighting their corner in our Parliament.
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It is right to recognise the work that the Justice Committee did on the bill, and I entirely associate myself with the minister’s words in relation to the former convener. I also congratulate Thompsons Solicitors, which worked with Bill Butler in providing advice throughout the process. That dialogue has been all about securing legislation that will be effective and which can be passed today with cross-party support. Once again, the Scottish Parliament can take action to protect the rights of people seeking damages.
We must recognise two difficult issues that the minister spoke about. The first concerns the proposal for the standard 25 per cent deduction for living expenses. In the Labour Party, we were eager for that proposal to be adopted as it appeared in the bill as introduced. In particular, we believed that it would help to address undercompensation in instances in which, for example, a dying victim is unwilling or unable to extend negotiations or take the matter to court—in effect, when they are forced by circumstances to accept a larger deduction for living expenses than is fair or appropriate. Given that most fatal damages claims involve people suffering from mesothelioma, such situations are not, unfortunately, uncommon.
The Scottish Government was concerned that applying a rigid standard 25 per cent reduction might not produce an accurate or fair result in absolutely every case, and that it could result in undercompensation—in what I feel would be rare circumstances. However, that concern resulted in dialogue on the issue, from which came the proposal that the 25 per cent reduction should apply, but with an exception for cases where it would be “manifestly and materially unfair”.
We previously expressed concerns that such an exception could open the door to further delay in court, due to routine challenges to the 25 per cent figure, but we have been reassured by the minister that the term “manifestly and materially unfair” sets a high enough bar, ensuring that such cases will be exceptional. The great majority of cases will benefit from speedier progress through the courts with the application of a 25 per cent deduction. We are comforted on that point, which we believe is crucial for the victims in such cases.
The second key issue is that of disregarding spousal income when determining compensation. As we have discussed, concerns were expressed at committee that stage 2 amendments have made the provisions not quite as explicit as we might have hoped. For the avoidance of doubt, the minister has made it clear today that, in the vast majority of circumstances, spousal income will indeed be disregarded. We can be confident that we have been properly reassured on that point, too.
I hope that we can also be confident that, although the bill might have changed, the central ambition behind it remains intact. I hope that we will pass into law today provisions that ensure not only fairer damages for what victims have suffered due to the negligence of others, but an easier and less protracted legal process by which damages are awarded. Those who seek such damages deserve no less, and I congratulate Bill Butler once again on fighting their corner in our Parliament.
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In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan)
SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-8028, in the name of Bill Butler, on the Damages (Scotland) Bill. I call the Cabinet Secretary for Justic...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)
SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Damages (Scotland)...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I call Bill Butler to speak to and move the motion.14:59
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)
Lab
I rise to speak to the motion in my name that the Damages (Scotland) Bill be passed.The bill, which was introduced on 1 June 2010, has the clear purpose of i...
The Minister for Community Safety (Fergus Ewing)
SNP
I begin by belatedly responding to Robert Brown’s earlier point by advising him that, under section 17, nothing affects proceedings that are commenced before...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I begin by paying tribute to Bill Butler for bringing the bill before the Parliament. Without his intervention, the bill, following the excellent work by the...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con)
Con
When someone is killed or dies as a result of an industrial accident or illness or in the short and fairly traumatic circumstances of a road traffic accident...
Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD)
LD
When I was in professional practice, I dealt with cases of this type across the board, including injury cases and some death cases. We must remember, as Bill...
Stuart McMillan (West of Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am content with the Parliament’s scrutiny of the bill, on which the committee has done a tremendous job. I commend Bill Butler for his work on bringing the...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab)
Lab
Like others, I congratulate my neighbour Bill Butler on his outstanding work in introducing the bill. Like me, he has a very strong interest in asbestos issu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman)
Lab
We move to the wind-up speeches. You have a very tight four minutes, Mr Pringle.15:27
Mike Pringle (Edinburgh South) (LD)
LD
I join everyone else in congratulating Bill Butler on all the hard work that he has done on the bill. Anyone who has put forward a proposal for a member’s bi...
John Lamont (Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Con
Like other members, I begin by stating that we should congratulate Bill Butler on his hard work and commitment and on bringing the bill to its final stages t...
James Kelly (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab)
Lab
Like others, I would like to congratulate Bill Butler on bringing this bill through to stage 3. I am sure that it will be passed at 5 o’clock. Bill has shown...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I believe that in its approach to the bill this Parliament has done itself what Donald Dewar might have described as a modicum of credit. In a cross-party sh...
Bill Butler
Lab
This has been a good debate on an important area of the law of Scotland. The bill’s objective, as Mr Ewing succinctly put it in the stage 1 debate,“is about ...