Committee
Education, Culture and Sport Committee, 25 Sep 2001
25 Sep 2001 · S1 · Education, Culture and Sport Committee
Item of business
Scottish Ballet
Renton Thomson:
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I must change my spectacles to deal with those questions.Happily, our production budgets have consistently been more or less on target or, indeed, under target. There was a considerable saving on our budget for "Carmen". The production team is nice and tight and we have a very good record on the spending side. I enjoy huge co-operation from all the company's officers and directors. Until the difficulties in 1996-97, our income was also fairly reliable. Our overall history is fairly satisfactory. However, as the pressures came, it was not possible to invest in the necessary amount of new work to renew box office figures. Something had to break and something had to change. We had hoped that Mr North's appointment would mean that we would reach a sufficiently stable formula so that the arts council would feel able to make up some of the leeway in our grant funding. That would have made the company acceptable and operational.My main concern relates to the different types of ballet. There are huge discrepancies. Contemporary dance has had a problem in that only approximately half-price can be charged for tickets and attendances as a percentage of capacity have been very much less than for more traditional ballet. For our triple bill in 1999, I think that all the theatres achieved attendances either of or under 30 per cent whereas we would expect a popular ballet such as "Aladdin" to reach target figures of perhaps 70 to 90 per cent. Less popular, middle-of-the-road style dance should reach attendances of around 50 to 65 per cent. There is a real concern about reduced box office takings.In addition, only a reduced number of contemporary dance performances can be given. Although at Christmas we performed "Aladdin" many times, when we did our last triple bill, I think we did three performances in Glasgow, two in Edinburgh and two in Aberdeen and we then took the production south to Sadler's Wells. The reduction in income in three ways means that there have to be substantial cost savings. I think that that has caused the dismay and uncertainty in 261 West Princes Street and is why we are so anxious to resolve exactly what the model is. The model has not been costed, so it would be unfair for me to judge it.
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The Convener:
Lab
Item 2 on the agenda is the beginning of our inquiry into Scottish Ballet. I welcome the members of the public and press to the public gallery. I ask everybo...
Robert North:
A few years ago Scottish Ballet was going through a difficult period. The Scottish Arts Council had decided that the company should change from being a large...
The Convener:
Lab
Do you want to add anything, Mr Thomson?
Renton Thomson:
My situation is one of some delicacy, because I am not authorised to speak as a spokesman on behalf of the board. I believe that I was called to the committe...
The Convener:
Lab
You were invited because of your financial expertise. The committee has a legitimate role in monitoring how public funds are used. Obviously, a substantial a...
Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
When Mr North was appointed as artistic director of Scottish Ballet, there were questions in the background regarding what his relationship with any chief ex...
Robert North:
Before I accepted the appointment, I was informed that there would be a chief executive. Before that, Scottish Ballet did not have a chief executive, so I wo...
Mr Monteith:
Con
From your experience as an artistic director, can you tell us where the relative costs and savings exist in contemporary and classical dance, given that you ...
Robert North:
The issue is complicated, but clearly classical dance produces savings. I come from both a classical and a contemporary dance background, and I have fought f...
Mr Monteith:
Con
Could Robert North or Renton Thompson provide the committee with an indication of the current financial position? Is there a deficit?
Renton Thompson:
At the end of this year we expect there to be a deficit of about £400,000.
Mr Monteith:
Con
Are we to conclude that this year the deficit has been reduced?
Renton Thompson:
It was reduced considerably by Scottish Ballet's share of the deficit grant that was given last year to both national companies, which totalled £327,000. Thi...
Mr Monteith:
Con
Did the company operate last year at a trading profit or at a trading loss? What was the figure?
Renton Thompson:
Last year the company made a fairly serious loss of £260,000. That was caused by lack of income—off the top of my head, I think that it was 50 per cent lack ...
Mr Monteith:
Con
Has the company managed to meet its budgets? You have spoken about the shortfall in income, but can you say something about production expenditure? Can you a...
Renton Thomson:
I must change my spectacles to deal with those questions.Happily, our production budgets have consistently been more or less on target or, indeed, under targ...
Michael Russell:
SNP
Brian Monteith asked about Robert North's role. That role is described in correspondence between Magnus Linklater, who was then the chairman of the Scottish ...
Renton Thomson:
It was announced on 11 September, I think.
Robert North:
No, it was 15 August.
Renton Thomson:
I think that I was told an hour before the model was presented to the company. All the press announcements had been made, so there was no possibility of my i...
Robert North:
I was told about an hour and a quarter before the announcement.
Michael Russell:
SNP
So there was no previous notification. Robert, you were and are in charge of the company's artistic direction. You are right to say that the plans are very v...
Robert North:
None.
Michael Russell:
SNP
None whatsoever?
Robert North:
None.
Michael Russell:
SNP
I see.I would like to ask Renton Thomson a question. The letter that invited you to this inquiry is quite clear. We received evidence from Mary Darke, who wi...
Renton Thomson:
First, I believe my responsibility for the accounts is absolute. Mr McGhie insisted that I do not speak for board policy and I fully understand that. I had a...
Michael Russell:
SNP
Put simply, you believe that the board's decision is wrong.
Renton Thomson:
I believe that a proper process should have taken place, which could then have shone light on that decision.