Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 11 November 2010
11 Nov 2010 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Curriculum for Excellence
I acknowledge the cabinet secretary’s decision to use HMIE in a constructive and proactive way in supporting the roll-out of curriculum for excellence in our high schools. That approach is, at least, an attempt to respond to teachers’ concerns about the lack of support in developing course content within the framework of curriculum for excellence. Her Majesty’s Inspectorate for Education and Learning and Teaching Scotland have worked in partnership with many local authorities, including my own in North Lanarkshire, to provide schools with the necessary support to develop S1 and S2 curriculums. I understand that the North Lanarkshire S1 curriculum was completed in October this year, and that the S2 curriculum will be finished by the end of this month. It is good to see HMIE playing such a positive role in developing Scotland’s education system.
It is also worth mentioning that the LTS website is becoming populated with examples of best practice in the implementation of curriculum for excellence. However, Claire Baker was also right when she pointed out that the examples are far from complete or comprehensive, and that some quite strong criticisms have been made of the LTS website because of its lack of clarity and other insufficiencies. Only last night, I was speaking to a teacher who pointed out that nothing can replace face-to-face meetings between teachers.
Of course, the Government’s problem with the latter point is that such meetings cost money, and that is the key issue with the current state of curriculum for excellence. I am not at all convinced that the Government is offering sufficient resources to local authorities and teachers to implement the new curriculum.
Although some progress has been made in preparing the S1 and S2 curriculums, there is still little or no clarity around the new exams that pupils will face in the future. The cabinet secretary has, until today, continued to dither around that point. I wonder what words of reassurance he will offer to teachers and pupils when he winds up today. Clarity around the examinations framework is required in Scotland’s schools now.
The worrying thing is that the Government failed to deliver curriculum for excellence during the good times, when it claims that local governments’ budget for the past three years continued to grow. When national and local government resources were available, there were still insufficient resources for curriculum for excellence. What will be the impact of the impending budget cuts on the efforts to fully implement curriculum for excellence? Will the cabinet secretary confirm today that the Government will not enter any agreement with COSLA to start to dismantle the terms and conditions that McCrone gave to teachers? Will the cabinet secretary reassure us about that, or are we going to see this Government willingly colluding in the dismantling of McCrone? How will the cabinet secretary ensure that local authorities are properly funded to provide support to head teachers and other teaching staff in Scotland’s schools to fully implement curriculum for excellence?
We in the Labour Party support the fundamental principles of curriculum for excellence. We initiated it and we are continuing, and will continue, to support the central principles that underpin it. However, it is time for the Government and the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning to take firm control of the implementation. He must not just speak warm words and pat himself on the back; it is time for him to put his money where his mouth is and to provide hard-working teachers and pupils with the support and clarity that they deserve.
It is also worth mentioning that the LTS website is becoming populated with examples of best practice in the implementation of curriculum for excellence. However, Claire Baker was also right when she pointed out that the examples are far from complete or comprehensive, and that some quite strong criticisms have been made of the LTS website because of its lack of clarity and other insufficiencies. Only last night, I was speaking to a teacher who pointed out that nothing can replace face-to-face meetings between teachers.
Of course, the Government’s problem with the latter point is that such meetings cost money, and that is the key issue with the current state of curriculum for excellence. I am not at all convinced that the Government is offering sufficient resources to local authorities and teachers to implement the new curriculum.
Although some progress has been made in preparing the S1 and S2 curriculums, there is still little or no clarity around the new exams that pupils will face in the future. The cabinet secretary has, until today, continued to dither around that point. I wonder what words of reassurance he will offer to teachers and pupils when he winds up today. Clarity around the examinations framework is required in Scotland’s schools now.
The worrying thing is that the Government failed to deliver curriculum for excellence during the good times, when it claims that local governments’ budget for the past three years continued to grow. When national and local government resources were available, there were still insufficient resources for curriculum for excellence. What will be the impact of the impending budget cuts on the efforts to fully implement curriculum for excellence? Will the cabinet secretary confirm today that the Government will not enter any agreement with COSLA to start to dismantle the terms and conditions that McCrone gave to teachers? Will the cabinet secretary reassure us about that, or are we going to see this Government willingly colluding in the dismantling of McCrone? How will the cabinet secretary ensure that local authorities are properly funded to provide support to head teachers and other teaching staff in Scotland’s schools to fully implement curriculum for excellence?
We in the Labour Party support the fundamental principles of curriculum for excellence. We initiated it and we are continuing, and will continue, to support the central principles that underpin it. However, it is time for the Government and the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning to take firm control of the implementation. He must not just speak warm words and pat himself on the back; it is time for him to put his money where his mouth is and to provide hard-working teachers and pupils with the support and clarity that they deserve.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson)
NPA
Good morning. The first item of business is a debate on motion S3M-7379, in the name of Michael Russell, on curriculum for excellence. Before the debate begi...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell)
SNP
I am delighted to have this opportunity to thank the teaching profession and all who work in or are part of school communities for what I have to call their ...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
I was just wondering whether the difficulties that Mr Russell inherited, and resolved so admirably, were his predecessor, Fiona Hyslop’s fault.
Michael Russell
SNP
No, they were not. They were caused by inaction by the previous Administration and Mr Macintosh’s colleagues. I did not want to be so churlish as to say that...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab)
Lab
If rhetoric could power Scotland, we could replace Torness by hitching Mr Russell to the national grid. Wind turbines suffer from intermittency, unlike the c...
Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD)
LD
On such a dismal and dreich day, I was almost looking forward to coming into the chamber; then I heard Des McNulty. I suspect that the truth about the curric...
Ian McKee (Lothians) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Margaret Smith
LD
No.We accept that times are tight, but it is critical and fundamental that we get this right.The Scottish National Party is playing with a generation’s futur...
Elizabeth Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
On behalf of the Scottish Conservatives, I am happy to congratulate all the headteachers, teachers, support staff—who are often forgotten in this process—par...
Des McNulty
Lab
I am sure that the member saw the comments that exam chiefs made in the Daily Mail this morning about the desperate state of literacy skills in some of the m...
Elizabeth Smith
Con
Absolutely. It is an important message that underpins exactly what I am saying: literacy and numeracy must complement and underpin everything that we do with...
Michael Russell
SNP
Well, that is the end of Labour.
Elizabeth Smith
Con
Does Mr Russell want to intervene? No? The curriculum for excellence has been at the forefront of the education brief for many long months, but all too often...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (SNP)
SNP
I am pleased to participate in the debate, not only as a parent but because, through my work with Learning and Teaching Scotland over many years, I have had ...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome this morning’s opportunity for the Parliament to endorse members’ commitment to the curriculum for excellence and to improving the educational oppo...
Christina McKelvie (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I have been amused by repeated comments in recent months and during this morning’s debate about curriculum for excellence being rushed in. I understand that ...
Karen Whitefield (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab)
Lab
Curriculum for excellence might well have been the most debated subject in the chamber during the past two or three years, but that is no bad thing. The educ...
The Minister for Skills and Lifelong Learning (Keith Brown)
SNP
I am sorry that Karen Whitefield is showing the same horror as the rest of the Labour Party that curriculum for excellence is working in schools. Does she re...
Karen Whitefield
Lab
I am surprised that the minister thinks that important legislation that recognises and supports children with additional support needs should not be implemen...
Keith Brown
SNP
You were not aware? You did not know?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan)
SNP
Order.
Karen Whitefield
Lab
I acknowledge the cabinet secretary’s decision to use HMIE in a constructive and proactive way in supporting the roll-out of curriculum for excellence in our...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
We have some time in hand, so members could use seven minutes as a guideline from now on.10:24
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green)
Green
I will attempt to finish my speech within seven minutes.It is sometimes difficult to tell whether Des McNulty’s glass is half full or half empty. This mornin...
Des McNulty
Lab
The issue, certainly in my contribution, is not whether the curriculum for excellence is a good thing in principle—I believe that it is—but the problems that...
Robin Harper
Green
I take Des McNulty’s point.Rousseau was probably one of the first people to consider how we should look at education from a child’s point of view.
Ian McKee
SNP
Jean-Jacques?
Robin Harper
Green
Yes, Jean-Jacques.I had the extreme good fortune and great honour to serve with R F Mackenzie in Braehead secondary school in Buckhaven in Fife, and I would ...
Michael Russell
SNP
I know of that coincidence of dates, but I can assure Robin Harper that I will open the conference, and I know that a colleague of mine will be present. We a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
The member should now wind up.