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Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill
As many members have said, the bill covers many sensitive topics. I have focused on funeral poverty because of my experience as a councillor and, as I mentioned at a previous stage, because of a close friend’s experience. Empathy has been mentioned a few times; politicians oug...
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the Government for agreeing to support amendment 1. We need to recognise that this is the start of the process of eradicating funeral poverty in Scotland. During stage 2, I recognised that power over social fund funeral payments and other consumer protection measures w...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
When I moved an amendment identical to amendment 1 at stage 2, the minister said: “I support the principle behind the amendment.” Therefore, it is really welcome that the Government will support amendment 1. The minister also said: “Funeral costs have been debated repeate...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
17 Mar 2016
Annual Report
I thank all the committee staff for helping me to get up to speed very quickly. I really appreciate all the effort that has been put into all the reports and the additional support that has been provided, which have been very helpful.
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill
Tenants have to chase landlords for repairs and annual gas safety checks, so we need to make sure that we put a charter in place. If more people are living in the private rented sector, they deserve better. 17:52
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill
There may have been challenges, but the hurdles were not insurmountable. We need to improve the standard across the sector. Many non-HMO rented properties need to be upgraded, especially former right-to-buy properties. Many of those properties enter the private rented sector a...
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill
The right to buy stripped away properties, but the fact is that not enough houses were built in addition. The two things are not incompatible; people were very supportive of the right to buy, which leads to secure and stable communities. Anyway, I will not go into that. Now t...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill
In 1999, only 5 per cent of households in Scotland lived in the private rented sector but, by 2014, that figure had increased to 14 per cent. Clare Adamson is right to talk about the sector’s growing importance, given that the Government has encouraged local authorities to mee...
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
That leads to a sense of stigmatisation. Given the findings, I hope that that situation is rectified and that women in Scotland seeking a late abortion can access one in Scotland. With the new powers, I hope that there will be further improvements in Scotland in this subject. ...
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
I agree that the powers are narrow in their scope, but I think that they could do a great deal of good. I suggest that the Parliament considers devolving the power relating to gaming machines to local authorities, because local authorities are best placed to take the decisions...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
It is a great honour to speak in this debate and to follow many great parliamentarians who have shaped this place over the past 17 years, and also to speak in this debate as someone who has followed this process not as a parliamentarian but as an ordinary punter and a local co...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
15 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
I would welcome you communicating with the Government on the issue, convener. If it is not willing to lodge a suitable amendment, I would be comfortable with you lodging, on behalf of the committee, an amendment that provides for an enhanced form of affirmative procedure. We d...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
15 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
It is important to note that the Government’s change from applying the scheme to the funeral directors’ premises to their businesses is a welcome one. On the power, I think that I would be more comfortable with an enhanced form of affirmative procedure.
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
10 Mar 2016
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
Given the guidance that we have on the change of procedure from negative to affirmative, and being mindful that if an amendment had not been lodged the committee would quite likely be lodging its own, I would be supportive of Jim Hume’s amendment. I would hope that the committ...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
What will be the cost to local authorities of the uplift? Has the cabinet secretary done work on that?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
Thank you.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
Lastly, under the infrastructure, investment and cities heading, ferry services sees a reclassification from indirect to direct capital. Will you talk me through that?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
Under the justice heading, we see the deployment of £2.6 million and £1.8 million underspends to support the costs of domestic abuse and mobile communications systems respectively. Is that £2.6 million for domestic abuse just for in-year resourcing?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
Under the education and lifelong learning heading, £3.8 million is transferred from health to the Scottish Further and Higher Education Funding Council in respect of nurse education. Intuitively, we would think that that money would sit within the funding council’s budget. Why...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
Could it not just have stayed in the sport budget?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
The centre’s budget now sits under health.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Subordinate Legislation
In the health budget, there is a “Re-phasing of budget for the National Sports Centre” of £7.8 million in the operating budget, which has been taken from the sport budget. Why has that been moved from sport to health?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
I suppose that it is a question of embracing reform, but the NHS, for example, delivers a service to people who already have health needs—they may have cardiovascular disease or diabetes now—and we are seeking investment to reduce health needs in the future. What would you adv...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
Elaine Wilson of Lloyds TSB Foundation for Scotland said that we need to recognise that small projects such as breakfast clubs are the first to be cut by local authorities when they feel under pressure. Everybody recognises the work that third sector organisations do. Alan Sta...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
I accept that. One of the difficulties is in getting the joint working that is necessary. Putting a local councillor hat on, an adaptation to an older person’s house to avoid a fall may cost a local authority £1,000, but if the benefit of that adaptation is not taken up and th...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
I refer you to RCN Scotland’s submission. In the section entitled “Central government”, it says: “The way in which the current Scottish budget is split, scrutinised and allocated by portfolio does not allow for easy conversations about the consequences of, for example, increa...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
He mentioned the need for sound and robust economic modelling. What is the Scottish Government doing on that front, with respect to future investment and disinvestment?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
Colin Mair from the Improvement Service noted the importance of long-term budgeting to reduce future budget pressures, and Professor Nick Watson from—where is he from? Members: What works Scotland.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
As Colin Mair noted, measuring the success of prevention is almost measuring outcomes, whether they are negative or positive. What do the panel members think about the idea of identifying interim outcomes? For example, in health, if we are aiming to reduce the number of cardio...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Prevention
My question follows on well from Mark McDonald’s.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It is disappointing that the minister is not willing to support amendment 146. When I went through the issues with the legal team, we were very aware of the Parliament’s remit and the time constraints on it. However, a large number of respondents to the consultation really wan...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
During stage 1, I strongly urged the Scottish Government to go further on funeral poverty than its current commitment, because grieving families on low incomes need action now. I welcome the Scottish Government’s announcement that it will host the first national conference on...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
08 Mar 2016
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Before Stage 3
Given the very tight timescales, I think that that is a good step forward.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
08 Mar 2016
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Before Stage 3
A number of concerns have been expressed about the lack of policy development on the bill, and I think that we want clarity about the development of regulations. It would be good to have clarity about whether changes will be major or minor at subsequent iterations.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
08 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
I support what John Mason said. If the Scottish Government does not bring forward such an amendment, we should put one forward on the affirmative procedure. We have a meeting on Thursday; will we know about the Government’s amendments by then?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
08 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
Sorry, I just thought of that question.
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
08 Mar 2016
Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
I am supportive of the comments about changing the procedure from negative to affirmative, but I have a question as well. Section 32(3) describes how the provisions regarding the zone will “cease to have effect” after five years. If the Government made an amendment under the ...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Mar 2016
Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill
The housing market is a key component of our economy and, as such, changes to it ought to be considered very carefully. According to Registers of Scotland, approximately 90,000 properties were submitted for registration in the past financial year. The Fraser of Allander instit...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
03 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Okay—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
03 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
I would appreciate getting that detail. It is commonly accepted that a recession is a period of general economic decline, which is typically defined as being a decline in GDP growth in two or more consecutive quarters. I forgot to say that there seems to be a word missing in...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
03 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Welcome to the committee, chief secretary. I want to ask about paragraph 66 and Scotland-specific economic shocks. In your opening statement, you referred to extensive borrowing powers and resource borrowing up to the new level of £600 million a year. Paragraph 66 sets out the...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
So we will get—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Okay. I will ask quickly about paragraph 19, which says: “During the transitional period up to and including 2021-22, however, there will be an annual reconciliation process to achieve the Indexed Per Capita outcome.” Will you talk me through that?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
I am talking about a Scotland-specific shock.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
When I read paragraph 66, I thought that the language could do with a bit of firming up to ensure clarity, given that the Government will be held to account on this. There is a threshold in the event of a Scotland-specific economic shock in which tax receipts are not what you ...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
That will obviously be more challenging than forecasting annual GDP growth—that is what the experts suggest.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Are you confident about and comfortable with that? In a Fraser of Allander institute article entitled “How wrong were we? The accuracy of the Fraser of Allander Institute’s forecasts of the Scottish economy since 2000”, the institute shows that models perform poorly in predict...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
I am honestly trying not to be critical; I just want to make sure that, if we put this fiscal rule in place, the threshold is not so high that, if there was a Scotland-only downturn, we could not realistically meet that threshold. Another point is about what the agreement say...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
I asked the economists at SPICe to have a look at this, and in relation to a change from quarter 1 to quarter 2 one of the SPICe researchers said: “Additionally quarterly growth in quarterly GDP is unlikely to be above 1% (that would give annual GDP growth of 4.1% or more) .....
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
No, but I—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
No, no. It was during the recession. So—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Okay. I am a wee bit concerned about that. If you look at the figures—the data—since 1999, you will see that the criteria would never be met.
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Okay. So you mean the difference—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
If you mean—
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Do you mean like a moving average?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
Looking at the figures, I think that it would be better for our interest if that was in real terms. It is not a criticism—Interruption. No, no—I have had the Scottish Parliament information centre look at this, too. An economic shock is determined by this. The paragraph talks ...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
What do you mean by “in absolute terms”?
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
If we are going to be held to the agreement, we want clarity. So, it is GDP growth, not just “GDP”. The paragraph says that such a “shock is triggered when onshore Scottish GDP is below 1% in absolute terms”. Do you mean in real terms?
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
02 Mar 2016
Fiscal Framework
It has been really useful to have the text of the agreement, but the wording of paragraph 66 is perhaps not as clear as it could be. It talks about “A Scotland-specific economic shock” being “triggered” by “onshore Scottish GDP”. Do you mean GDP growth?
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
02 Mar 2016
Portfolio Question Time · Dundee Integration Joint Board (Meetings)
Last Thursday, the Scottish National Party administration in Dundee City Council cut £3.5 million from the health and social care integration joint board budget. Dundee City Council is expecting to receive £7 million from the additional £250 million funding for social care. Th...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 22 March 2016

22 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill
Brennan, Lesley Lab North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

As many members have said, the bill covers many sensitive topics. I have focused on funeral poverty because of my experience as a councillor and, as I mentioned at a previous stage, because of a close friend’s experience. Empathy has been mentioned a few times; politicians ought to be able to empathise so that we can understand how we can best serve the people who we are here to represent.

I am pleased that the minister agreed to accept the amendment that I lodged, especially given the welfare state’s cradle-to-grave philosophy and in light of rising funeral costs and an ageing population. I am also pleased that the minister referred to the academic work that I highlighted at stage 2—particularly that of Dr Christine Valentine and Dr Kate Woodthorpe at the centre for death and society at the University of Bath.

Having communicated with those academics, I know that they are keen to share their knowledge to help to eradicate funeral poverty in Scotland. I hope that, in the next parliamentary session, those who are working in that area will use those academics’ work and expertise. As they point out, it is accepted that

“funeral costs may impose considerable financial burden on those left behind ... This burden not only reflects that funeral costs are subject to market forces, but also that bereavement, in itself, may cause financial hardship.”

The situation is compounded by death being perceived as a private and highly individualised event, and that is accompanied by a lack of a widespread culture of preparing for death.

Increasing funeral poverty has important implications for existing and potential future demand on local authorities, which has been flagged up. We need to look at why there is an increasing demand for public health funerals, which are often referred to as paupers’ funerals; obviously, that demand is because of funeral poverty.

I look to the next Government and the next parliamentary session to fully address the social fund funeral payments scheme, because it is not working. Someone can get a funeral payment of about £1,300, but the actual cost of a funeral can be about £3,500.

When people have no choice, they have to go to the local authority or—as in the case of my friend, which I raised in the stage 1 debate—they are advised not to claim the body so that it is left to the state to arrange the funeral. That is not good enough in Scotland today. My friend was left with the shame of not being able to give his mother the funeral that he wanted to give her. I hope that that is addressed fully in the next parliamentary session.

I recognise that my amendment was modest—it was just about guidance on funeral costs—but it will illuminate how to help grieving families keep the cost down and give their loved ones a dignified final send-off. As Rhoda Grant said, a dignified send-off gives those who are grieving some comfort.

The amendment states that, before issuing such guidance, the Scottish Government will have a duty to consult

“burial authorities ... cremation authorities ... funeral directors ... any other persons they consider appropriate.”

I am glad that the Government supported my amendment, because it is a reasonable amendment. It is similar in structure to section 20 of the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014. If everyone supports the bill and it is passed later, the Parliament will take one step on the pathway towards eradicating funeral poverty.

I thank the Parliament’s clerking team, which helped me as a newbie to shape an amendment. The team has been supportive and I express my appreciation for that support.

12:03  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15996, in the name of Maureen Watt, on the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill. Before I invite the mini...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I wish to advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Burial and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. I call Maureen Watt to speak to and move the motion. 11:11
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
I am delighted to open the stage 3 debate on the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill. I thank the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, the Local Gover...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I would like to start in the same way as the minister by thanking the Health and Sport Committee, the Local Government and Regeneration Committee and the Del...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you. I call Dr Nanette Milne. Members might want to note that this is Dr Milne’s valedictory speech. On behalf of the Parliament, I would like to than...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you very much for those kind words, Presiding Officer. Of the seven bills that the Health and Sport Committee dealt with during this session of the Pa...
The Minister for Sport, Health Improvement and Mental Health (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
No pressure, Jackson.
Nanette Milne Con
Jackson Carlaw quickly absorbed the detail of our health service, which I have lived and breathed for a long time. It has been a privilege to represent the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We wish you every success in the future, of course. We move to the open debate, with six-minute speeches. 11:32
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
I enjoyed Nanette Milne’s valedictory speech, although she had me googling Nanette Newman to double check that I know who that is, and I do. Unfortunately, I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Before we proceed, I should apologise to Parliament for having inadvertently misled it. I am expecting four-minute speeches in this debate, but there is quit...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I pay tribute to Nanette Milne for the massive contribution that she has made on health and other issues during her 13 years in the Parliament. I have enjoye...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I, too, pay tribute to Dr Nanette Milne. Over the years, we have agreed, we have disagreed and we have agreed to disagree, but there has been no malice when ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Thank you, Mr Stewart. You actually got five minutes. 11:48
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I join others in paying tribute to Nanette Milne for her valedictory speech, but also for her service to the Parliament. She is always thoughtful and conside...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Is Rhoda Grant saying that she does not trust councillors to make commonsense decisions in that regard?
Rhoda Grant Lab
The next time that I hear Kevin Stewart complaining about a council planning decision, I will remind him of his words. I think that we are all aware of counc...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Like others, I welcome the bill and anticipate its passage come decision time. Burials and cremations are, of course, a very important part of most people’s...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As many members have said, the bill covers many sensitive topics. I have focused on funeral poverty because of my experience as a councillor and, as I mentio...
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to speak in this important debate on the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill, particularly as I am a member of the Health and Sport Committee...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
I put on record my thanks to Dr Nanette Milne for her quiet words, particularly when we served together on the Public Petitions Committee. It has always been...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to closing speeches. I invite the two colleagues who have participated in the debate and are missing to return to the chamber. 12:13
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The bill is a contract between the Parliament and the parents who reacted with anguish, bewilderment, astonishment and dismay earlier in the parliamentary se...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Jackson Carlaw Con
I know that his contribution was well intentioned; maybe the folks—as Kevin Stewart likes to refer to them—in old Aberdeen do things differently up there. Ho...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I know that we all get upset from time to time about planning decisions. However, in sensitive cases such as the ones that we have discussed, councillors nor...
Jackson Carlaw Con
As Kevin Stewart said, councillors “normally” act wisely. That underlines the point that there must be occasions on which they do not act in that way. John W...
Jenny Marra Lab
Since I have two opportunities to speak in the debate, I will use this one to pay tribute to some of my colleagues who are leaving Parliament. As several o...
Maureen Watt SNP
I thank all members for their contribution to the debate. Throughout the bill’s progress, there has been strong support for its principles. I am grateful to...