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Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
24 Mar 2021
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill
I, too, congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. It will be good to get it passed before the session ends. It will be at the last minute, but that will still be good. My one major concern about the bill has been addressed. It centred on the initial intention to give ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
16 Mar 2021
Covid-19
I say to the First Minister that, as soon as questions on her statement are over, I will be off to the Edinburgh international conference centre to get my vaccination. I am looking forward to it—at last. I turn to the serious bit. When the pandemic is over, will the First Min...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I have exhausted my line of questioning to the cabinet secretary, and I am sure that he is very happy about how he has dealt with it.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
Thank you for clearing that up. I was very happy with what I thought your first reply was, but I am not so happy with the reply that you have just given because, in any commercial operation in which assets are being transferred from one company to another company, it would nor...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
Have I misunderstood?
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
I understand that entirely. My question was not based on the fact that the loans were given. I understand, accept and agree with what you have said about the loans being given for the sustainability of the airport. However, when the Scottish Government made the loan, there was...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
That is very helpful, and it takes me to my second question. You have just said that, if the airport is sold, the money will have to come back to the Scottish Government, because it is taxpayers’ money in that loan. Just like any other commercial enterprise, if you lend money,...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
10 Mar 2021
Transport (Update)
I want to follow on from Richard Lyle’s question. The issue is, of course, a national one. It is certainly not a regional issue for the north-east of Scotland. I have two questions for the cabinet secretary. First, regardless of what happens with selling the airport, what is ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
10 Mar 2021
Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app seems to have frozen again. I would have voted no.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
03 Mar 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
I am conscious of time and I know that members may wish to come in, so I will leave it there.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
03 Mar 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
I can understand the point of view that you have just expressed, which is that you do not want to revisit the debate. I do not want to revisit the debate either, but there are issues that the committee addressed and identified in our report. Obviously, you did not agree with i...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
03 Mar 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
Thank you for coming to the committee today, because this is the first opportunity that we have had to question you outwith the debate in the chamber on our inquiry report that looked into vessels 801 and 802. Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd has just launched a 10-year small v...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
03 Mar 2021
Agriculture and Fisheries (Update)
I accept what you are saying about all the initiatives, and good initiatives are and have been taken to change the regulatory system, for instance, with SEPA on specific issues. My question really is about the big picture. It seems to me that the wheels are moving incredibly s...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
03 Mar 2021
Agriculture and Fisheries (Update)
Good morning, cabinet secretary. I would like to focus my question on fish farming. You will be well aware of our report on the regulation and future of fish farming. I want to focus first specifically on the issue of planning. When we reviewed the report, we felt that it was ...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
24 Feb 2021
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank Emma Harper for lodging amendment 15. She is, of course, quite right that the point that it addresses was one of the major issues that the committee was concerned about; I was particularly concerned about it. I had experience of dealing with the same issue as a member ...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
24 Feb 2021
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have no issue about raising the level of the fine. If damage is done to stock to that extent, that is absolutely correct. Does the minister think that there is any difference in the deterrent effect or level of punishment of imprisoning somebody for six months or for 12 mont...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
24 Feb 2021
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I disagree with amendment 1. The legislation already makes exemptions; as John Finnie said, police dogs are exempted. There is an exemption for a dog that is lawfully used in pest control, but John Finnie would remove the exemption for such lawful activity. There is no need to...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
17 Feb 2021
Decision Time
Yes.
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
17 Feb 2021
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My voting app has frozen—even in this nice mild weather—and I could not vote. I—Inaudible.—for the motion.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I know that time is short, so I will not pursue the money issue. I have only one other question. You said—quite rightly—in your introduction that a just transition must be achieved through co-operation and by taking people with you. I a...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
I can confirm that I will not be around after May, so I will not be able to ask you any more questions about it. You mentioned the agri-environment climate scheme, but I understand that it has not been fully open to new applicants since 2019. I really wanted to know if that w...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
Good morning, cabinet secretary. My questions follow on from Peter Chapman’s questions on the agricultural transformation programme. Initially, in the budget, there was an allocation of £40 million for this financial year, which ends in less than two months. I know that the NF...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
I found that very helpful, cabinet secretary. Convener, thanks very much, I have now finished my questions.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
I have one supplementary question, if the convener will indulge me. Cabinet secretary, your answers have been positive, productive, and helpful. It will cost local authorities a lot of money to set up these hubs and as we all know, our local authorities make the point that the...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
Thanks for that, cabinet secretary. It is good to hear. I was not aware that the industry itself thinks that the price cross point might be three or so years away, so that is quite good news. What you said about range anxiety in the latter part of your answer goes to the majo...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
10 Feb 2021
Climate Change Plan
I have two questions on electric vehicles. My first question is about incentivisation. How exactly will the Scottish Government incentivise the purchase of electric vehicles, because they are incredibly expensive?
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
02 Feb 2021
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. For some reason, we cannot get my phone to work. I would have voted yes.
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
02 Feb 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. You will be aware that I made a point of order last week about the inability to intervene on members who contribute remotely. I asked you to take that issue forward and you suggested that members should bring it to our business managers’...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
02 Feb 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
—of everyone’s time and taxpayers’ money. The minister really should have done so much better.
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
02 Feb 2021
Construction and Procurement of Ferry Vessels
I want to re-emphasise to colleagues that, as we have heard, the committee report was unanimous. Committee members constructively engaged with one another and our witnesses throughout the process. What was our report’s aim? It was simply to influence the Scottish Government on...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
27 Jan 2021
Climate Change Plan
I am well aware of all the negative things that can be done—the stick, to use the phrase that you used, Paul—but I am more interested in positive encouragement and reinforcement. That works, whereas a negative approach tends not to. We have taken small steps, such as the over...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
27 Jan 2021
Climate Change Plan
I am pleased to ask my questions now rather than later, because they focus on bus transport. We have heard that the cost of bus travel has gone up significantly in relative terms and that bus patronage has been in long-term decline. I want to ask about how we reverse the probl...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
27 Jan 2021
Prioritising Covid-19 Vaccination and Economic Recovery
Go on—take an intervention. Laughter. 15:49
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
27 Jan 2021
Prioritising Covid-19 Vaccination and Economic Recovery
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I know that, in your role as Deputy Presiding Officer, you attend Parliamentary Bureau meetings. I know that it is not breaking the rules, because opening speakers are entitled to speak remotely, but I wonder whether you could mention to...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
21 Jan 2021
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to see that our committee’s report on the bill is a unanimous one that recommends that Parliament agree to its general principles today. I, too, commend Emma Harper for introducing the bill. The job of the committee was to examine the bill in detail, to ensure th...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
20 Jan 2021
Climate Change Plan
My question is for Professor Bell. We know that tackling climate change is all about international co-operation, and Maureen Watt has mentioned Norway’s experience with electric vehicles. I have a lot of experience of travelling in Italy, where they have gone for gas instead o...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
13 Jan 2021
Rail Services
I would like to follow on from the convener’s questions. I know that Alex Hynes might not have the figures yet because we are only at the beginning of 2021, but it would be useful for the committee to get information that will give us a handle on what funding you received from...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
13 Jan 2021
Rail Services
Can you hear me now?
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
13 Jan 2021
First Minister’s Question Time · Church Services (Restrictions)
Has the First Minister seen the letter to her from more than 200 church leaders from across Scotland, who question whether, in completely closing down churches for public worship, she is consistent with her obligations under article 9 of the European convention on human rights...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
30 Dec 2020
Trade and Co-operation Agreement between the United Kingdom and the European Union
Like the First Minister, I believe that we, in Scotland, will be the poorer for ending a political and economic union of some 48 years—Interruption. Well, we will be the poorer for it—do Tory members not realise that? However, cannot the First Minister see that the very same a...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
30 Dec 2020
Trade and Co-operation Agreement between the United Kingdom and the European Union
Will the First Minister give way?
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
22 Dec 2020
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I support anything that allows Scotland to trade more easily with our neighbours, and that includes this bill. However, I was genuinely concerned that the bill as drafted, and before any amendment at stage 3, allowed the Government to use regulations for keeping pace powers wh...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
22 Dec 2020
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
My phone would not let me vote. I would have voted against.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
09 Dec 2020
Women in Agriculture
To follow up on Colin Smyth’s point, sex discrimination is, of course, illegal; political parties have been given an exemption from that. There is a view that there is no such thing as positive discrimination; there is only discrimination. I would not be in favour of that, but...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
09 Dec 2020
Women in Agriculture
Yes. I appreciate that very political and adroit answer. I entirely understand that you do not want to upset any organisation, but I am trying to get away from generalities, and I am looking at two specific organisations that strike me as the most obvious examples. There must ...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
09 Dec 2020
Women in Agriculture
No. I want to hear from all of them, if I can.
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
09 Dec 2020
Women in Agriculture
Good morning. We have been talking about farming organisations and leadership in those organisations in very general terms, but I want to look at some specific examples. I note that—correct me if I am wrong—the Scottish Crofting Federation is quite successful at this, as three...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
08 Dec 2020
Parliament’s Evolving Scrutiny Function
I am heartened by what the cabinet secretary just said. There is a slight misunderstanding. He is not disagreeing with me at all. I am not calling for the use of primary legislation to be the standard practice; I am calling for its use when major changes to the law are being c...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Dec 2020
Parliament’s Evolving Scrutiny Function
There is no doubt that Brexit is having and will have a major impact on how the Scottish Parliament operates. The paper produced by the Finance and Constitution Committee and this debate are a welcome part of the process of examining how this devolved Parliament responds to ch...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Implications of Brexit (Rural Economy)
I agree with the vision of how we need to proceed, but, as I understand it, the farming and food production future policy group was meant to be an overarching bringing together of all the sectoral elements. I appreciate the work that has been done on the sectoral elements, as ...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Implications of Brexit (Rural Economy)
As the cabinet secretary knows, in January 2019, Parliament unanimously agreed to request that the Scottish Government set up the farming and food production future policy group, which is an opportunity to develop our own policy, post 2024, and the Government did so. This week...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Salmon Farming Inquiry (Update)
I have heard everything that the cabinet secretary has said and I agree with him. He is absolutely right, and I am heartened by what he has said about the strategic view. However, I have looked at the evidence from two weeks ago and what we have heard from Mr Mitchell, the dep...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Salmon Farming Inquiry (Update)
I wish to pursue issues around planning. Our report of two years ago recommended that guidance should be produced, “specifying those areas across Scotland that are suitable or unsuitable for siting of salmon farms.” The objective was to take a strategic view of planning appl...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Subordinate Legislation
All I want to say is that, as the minister and her officials have just confirmed that the regulations are about imports and not exports, I am happy to approve it. Motion agreed to.
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Subordinate Legislation
I understand all that, minister. That is what it says in the policy note. My question is not focused on the imports. I agree with you that we need the regulations. The policy note and the explanatory note talk about trade, but the regulations itself does not mention the trade ...
Mike Rumbles LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Subordinate Legislation
Can I follow that up, convener?
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
02 Dec 2020
Subordinate Legislation
The explanatory note says: “Regulation 2 of these Regulations makes amendments to the Trade in Animals and Related Products (Scotland) Regulations 2012”, and the policy note, under the heading, “Purpose of the Instrument”, says: “To make changes to the Trade in Animals and ...
Mike Rumbles LD Chamber
01 Dec 2020
Covid-19
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would hate to think that the First Minister had inadvertently misled Parliament, but I think that, in her answer to me—correct me if I am wrong—she said that she believed that Parliament had had a debate and a vote on the tier 4 regula...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
01 Dec 2020
Covid-19
Does the First Minister accept that she could ask the full Parliament to agree to major changes in Covid regulations before they come into effect rather than always ask for approval after they come into effect—sometimes up to 28 days after? I will contrast that with what is ha...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
25 Nov 2020
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am pleased to be here; I will speak only to amendments that I lodged. Amendment 1 and consequential amendments 2 to 5 are very straightforward. I have been concerned about the Scottish Government’s enthusiastic—let me put it that way—use of regulations in making the law of ...
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 24 March 2021

24 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill
Rumbles, Mike LD North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I, too, congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. It will be good to get it passed before the session ends. It will be at the last minute, but that will still be good.

My one major concern about the bill has been addressed. It centred on the initial intention to give the police the power to search non-domestic premises without a warrant. That was the second time in this parliamentary session that that idea had appeared in legislation; the first time was in the Government’s UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill. I thank in particular the minister, Ben Macpherson, for looking at that in this second bill. Thankfully, on both occasions it was recognised that the provision would have overridden historical safeguards in our common law that were designed to protect people by not allowing authorities to search people’s property without first obtaining evidence of a crime. Thank goodness that common sense prevailed, but it shows that vigilance is always required from MSPs when they examine legislation from the Government, from committees or from individual MSPs.

Presiding Officer, if you will indulge me for a moment, considering that this is my last speech in Parliament, I will make a general comment on the work of MSPs. Since I was first elected some 22 years ago, I have seen a marked change in, if I may say so, the independence of mind of my MSP colleagues—across the board; I am not leaving anybody out—when it comes to voting in the Scottish Parliament. We have collectively become far more tribal and more “My party, right or wrong”. I would urge those colleagues who are returned at the election to consider this. It is fine when the following three elements are aligned—your own values and beliefs, the interests of your constituents, and your party’s leadership decisions. Unfortunately, in politics, those do not always neatly align.

For me, the most important of those three elements is remaining true to the values and beliefs that brought you to Parliament in the first place, especially when considering which way to vote at decision time and it is everybody’s decision. The one example that I will give of what I mean is when we had the vote on closing our churches during the pandemic. Today’s judgment from Lord Braid ruled that the move was unconstitutional, disproportionate, and consequently unlawful, yet how many colleagues voted against their better judgment? Only five of us voted against our own parties’ position on it, and every party’s decision was to support the Government’s position on closing down the churches. Therefore, my message to returning MSPs is simply this: value your own judgment, and always do what you believe is the right thing.

Presiding Officer, you can see why my party leaders over the years—Jim Wallace, Nicol Stephen, Tavish Scott and now Willie Rennie—have not had an easy time from me. I thank them for their forbearance. On that point, I end my 17 years of contributions to parliamentary debate.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a stage 3 debate on motion S5M-24270, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) B...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am weel chuffed to open the stage 3 debate on my Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased that the bill, which I have worke...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Government in support of this important legislation, which will do much to protect livestock all across Scotland. I t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in a farming business and a member of NFU Scotland. I am pleased, o...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The bill represents a positive step for Scotland’s agriculture sector and our animal welfare standards, so Scottish Labour is happy to support it. I thank Em...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Mike Rumbles, who will be making his final speech in the Parliament. 16:49
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I, too, congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. It will be good to get it passed before the session ends. It will be at the last minute, but that w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, Mr Rumbles. I call John Finnie, who is also making his final speech in Parliament. 16:52
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Like others before me, I would like to thank everyone who has brought us to this point in the bill, and to congratulate Emma Harper, who has worked extremely...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mòran taing, Maighstir Finnie. We move to the open debate. I ask for three-minute speeches, please. 16:58
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I can see people around the chamber timing me before I even start. Laughter. I wish John Finnie and Mike Rumbles well, and I particularly thank the cabinet s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was a very timely contribution. 17:02
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have been frantically trying to cut my speech from four to three minutes, Presiding Officer; I will do my best. I thank Emma Harper for introducing the Do...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
On their final day, I offer congratulations to all members who are leaving and to Mike Rumbles and John Finnie in particular for their contributions. I offer...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
John Scott will make a brief contribution before we move to closing speeches. 17:08
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
Thank you for your indulgence, Presiding Officer. I have very little to say except to welcome the passage of the bill and declare an interest—Interruption. I...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Like others, I congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. I pay tribute to Mike Rumbles and John Finnie on their final speeches, and to you, Presiding...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Peter Chapman, who is also making his final speech. 17:13
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Let me remind the chamber for the last time that my entry in the register of interests states that I am a member of a farming partnership. As you say, Presid...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I will stop you, Mr Chapman. There is a little disorder in the chamber. I encourage you to confine your remarks to the usual finishing remarks in a final spe...
Peter Chapman Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
On the last day of the current parliamentary session, it seems fitting that we are considering a member’s bill that has strong cross-party support and addres...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Emma Harper to respond to the debate and to wind up. 17:26
Emma Harper SNP
In closing, I have additional people to thank. More than 600 people responded to my consultation in full, and I appreciate the time and input from members of...
Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
Of course I will.
Gail Ross SNP
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Emma Harper SNP
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The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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