Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
14
Parties on record
2,095,827
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Showing 60 of 2,095,827 contributions. Latest 30 days: 2,655. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 09 Jun 2026.
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is disappointing that Mr Hoy does not welcome the prospect of a GP walk-in service for Stranraer. The important point is that the purpose of GP walk-in services is to free up capacity in the primary care system, so that people across our constituencies and regions can be se...
Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is 77 miles from Sanquhar to Stranraer, which is a journey that takes a minimum of two hours by car or at least four hours by bus. Given that my constituents will be expected to make that journey to access the GP walk-in centre in Stranraer, does that not expose the policy ...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I expect the Glasgow site to open later this month. I very much appreciate the health board’s hard work to get the services up and running. I am sure that Michelle Campbell will join me in welcoming the opening of the sites and thanking our hard-working national health service...
Michelle Campbell (Renfrewshire North and Cardonald) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Work is well under way in preparation for Glasgow’s first walk-in clinic opening. Can the Scottish Government offer an update on when that wonderful resource for the good people of Cardonald will be open?
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Ms Gibson has made an important point about reducing health inequality by improving access to healthcare. The Government is committed to providing a North Ayrshire walk-in service, which was one of the 14 additional services that were announced. That brings the total number of...
Patricia Gibson SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
North Ayrshire’s people have Scotland’s lowest healthy life expectancy. The average adult remains in full health until just 53 years old. More than 28 per cent of people live with a long-term health condition, which is 6 per cent higher than the Scottish average. In view of th...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I have committed to expanding the walk-in service programme and will set out how I will do so in the first 100 days of this Government. Health boards were previously asked to generate proposals that considered their populations’ needs, taking into account local issues and circ...
Patricia Gibson (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
To ask the Scottish Government when it expects a general practitioner walk-in centre to open in North Ayrshire. (S7O-00023)
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
The short answer is yes. I am happy to meet Ms Minto or any other member to discuss the matter further. The challenge of multiple organisations drawing on small rural populations is not new. The SFRS works collaboratively with a range of partners, including the coastguard serv...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I appreciate that these are independent decisions to be made by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, but I am interested to know whether the Scottish Government is looking at the cumulative impact of those changes on, for example, other rescue services such as the coastguard,...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I am more than happy to explore that with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service in order to ensure that we are in a position to respond to the changing nature of fire and flood risk across Scotland. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s very successful prevention activities, a...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
Ministers previously told Parliament that almost £1 million of specialist wildfire pumping units would be deployed within weeks. A Scottish Conservative freedom of information request later revealed that they were still not operational, during Scotland’s worst wildfire season ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
These are independent decisions for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to make, but it is open to Parliament to take a view on those matters—in the way that a view is normally taken, for example, on investigations undertaken through the committee structure—or otherwise. Obvi...
Joe Fagan Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
There is profound concern about the potential outcomes of the service delivery review, not least from the firefighters and their union. Given the gravity of the decisions that are about to be made, does the Government agree that there should be full parliamentary scrutiny and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I met the SFRS board chair on 4 June, when we discussed the overall objectives of the service delivery review and the consultation and outreach process that the SFRS has undertaken. Recent large fires in Glasgow and Fife have been dealt with commendably by our front-line firef...
Joe Fagan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service board regarding the outcome of the service delivery review that is due to be considered on 22 June. (S7O-00022)
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am happy to answer.If Mr Cole-Hamilton wishes to write to me, I will write back to him as swiftly as I possibly can.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That was not quite on the nose for the general question, but do you want to respond, cabinet secretary?
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I hope that the cabinet secretary will agree that one of the safest ways to get students from Kirkliston in my constituency to their catchment high school in South Queensferry is via the council-funded coach service that has been operating well there for several years. A decis...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I realise that everyone is finding their feet, including me. I remind members that they should only press their button if they want to ask a supplementary to the general question that has been asked.Alex Cole-Hamilton has a supplementary.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
My apologies, Presiding Officer. I pressed my button in error, thinking that I would have to do that for my general question later on.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Lloyd Melville has a supplementary.
Julie MacDougall Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I apologise.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That is not relevant to this question. We are on supplementaries to the question that Patrick Harvie asked.
Julie MacDougall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I recently met the chief executive of Forth Valley College. It was incredibly harrowing to hear about how apprenticeship courses are being cut—
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Julie MacDougall has a supplementary.
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Mr Harvie will be pleased to know that £3.2 million is still going to regional transport partnerships—£1.6 million will be available for local direct awards and £1.4 million is going to bikeability schemes, which all our weans can benefit from. Of course, that forms part of a ...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am sorry that the cabinet secretary did not choose to answer that question by explaining why the cut took place and why it took place during the election purdah period. I have returned to my job to meet local community organisations that are doing the work that the Scottish ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Tourism and Transport (Stephen Flynn) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I thank Patrick Harvie for his question, because it gives me the opportunity to restate what the First Minister said. We support cycling, walking and wheeling, which is why £226 million-worth of investment is going into sustainable and active travel. I am very proud of that—I ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
To ask the Scottish Government, in light of comments made by the First Minister in the Parliament on 2 June that the Scottish Government prioritises active and safe travel routes and the encouragement of cycling, walking and wheeling, for what reason Transport Scotland reporte...
Stephen Kerr Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Thank you.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Yes.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. For guidance, would it be possible for the same person to be nominated again in those circumstances?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
The process is opened again for further nominations. However, to be clear, any other member who is nominated will have to come from the party from which the original member was selected.
Helen McDade Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
What happens then?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
If a candidate receives the majority of votes, that candidate will become the committee convener. If the majority is against it, that candidate will not be the committee convener.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I just wonder what the process is. Can you explain what happens once a vote has been cast when there is only one candidate, so that we know what we are voting against?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Willie Rennie’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Fifteen out of 15 convenerships will be subject to secret ballots.I have also received two valid nominations for convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. The nomin...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Craig Hoy’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Willie Rennie has been nominated as convener of the Transport Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was received.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Mark Ruskell’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Craig Hoy has been nominated as convener of the Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button n...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Bob Doris’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Mark Ruskell has been nominated as convener of the Rural Affairs Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Paul Sweeney’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Bob Doris has been nominated as convener of the Public Service Reform Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Neil Bibby’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Paul Sweeney has been nominated as convener of the Public Petitions Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Helen McDade’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Neil Bibby has been nominated as convener of the Public Audit Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Clare Haughey’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Helen McDade has been nominated as convener of the Health, Care and Sport Committee. If any member objects to her election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection wa...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Patrick Harvie’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Clare Haughey has been nominated as convener of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. If any member objects to her election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Katie Hagmann’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Patrick Harvie has been nominated as convener of the Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Karen Adam’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Katie Hagmann has been nominated as convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. If any member objects to her election as convener, please press your point-of-order button n...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Duncan Massey’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Karen Adam has been nominated as convener of the Education and Gaelic Committee. If any member objects to her election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was no...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Calum Kerr’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Duncan Massey has been nominated as convener of the Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Alyn Smith’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Calum Kerr has been nominated as convener of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objectio...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Stuart McMillan’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Alyn Smith has been nominated as convener of the Criminal Justice Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Colleagues, we turn to the election of committee conveners. When more than one nomination for convener of a committee has been received, an election will be conducted by secret ballot. I will give you instructions on this shortly.When a single nomination has been received, the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
14:05
Rabbi Moshe Rubin (Rabbi of Giffnock Synagogue and Senior Rabbi of Scotland) Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Time for Reflection
Thank you, Presiding Officer. On behalf of the Scottish Jewish community, I wish you and all newly elected MSPs every success in your service to our beautiful country of Scotland.It is no secret that Jewish communities across the United Kingdom are facing increasing hostility....
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Time for Reflection
Our first item of business this afternoon is time for reflection, and our time for reflection leader today is Rabbi Moshe Rubin of Giffnock synagogue, the Senior Rabbi of Scotland.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
04 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.Meeting closed at 17:20.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
04 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00249, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on wealth taxation for public services, as amended, is: For 84, Against 28, Abstentions 10.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes in fair, progressive and sustainable taxation to ...
Speaker unknown Chamber
04 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Barratt, David ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
04 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00249, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on wealth taxation for public services, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
← Back to list
Chamber

Plenary, 21 May 2008

21 May 2008 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Insulin Pumps
Stewart, David Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV
I welcome the opportunity to debate increased access to insulin pumps specifically, but also the bigger picture of diabetes and its role in health care management. The motion has widespread support across the political spectrum and I thank members who supported it. As for those who have not, I always welcome sinners who repent.

First, I acknowledge the work of the cross-party group on diabetes, which Karen Whitefield convenes and of which I am a member. I warmly welcome the visitors in the public gallery, particularly the representatives of Diabetes UK Scotland.

Some may ask, why debate diabetes? I declare a personal interest, in that about 11 years ago I made a fascinating visit to Raigmore hospital in my constituency. I went to the diabetic specialist centre there, where I was encouraged by the staff to take a particular interest in the debate. I also had a family member, who is unfortunately no longer with us, who suffered from diabetes for more than 70 years, so I have first-hand experience of day-to-day family life with a diabetic. In my Westminster days, I was secretary of the all-party group on diabetes.

Members will be aware of the major causes of concern about diabetes. It is the main cause of blindness among people of working age; half of all non-traumatic lower limb amputations are due to diabetic complications; and diabetic care costs the national health service in Scotland the phenomenal sum of about £0.5 billion.

On type 2 diabetes, members will be aware that I have supported a campaign for high-risk screening for type 2, or mature onset, diabetes for people who are overweight, or who have a family history of diabetes or who are over 45. I hope to use the United Kingdom screening committee to give some support to that campaign.

What am I calling for? It is important that we have greater use of continuous subcutaneous insulin infusion—CSII—or, as it is also known, insulin pump therapy, which is slightly easier to pronounce, so I will use that term for the rest of the debate. As members will be aware, insulin pump therapy provides significant improvement in glycaemic control and quality of life for some people with type 1 diabetes—so-called early onset and insulin-dependent diabetes.

The pump is an external device that continually infuses insulin into the patient's body and thus controls their glycaemic levels, which many patients otherwise struggle to achieve. That alternative way of maintaining insulin levels can contribute to more stable wellbeing by reducing the risk of hypoglycaemia and replacing several daily injections with only two to three a week. With the pump, insulin levels can be increased by simply pressing a button on the pump instead of using a pen needle, which can be embarrassing for patients, particularly when they inject in public.

Insulin pumps empower patients to have greater control over their condition as they give them a more flexible and reliable means of managing glycaemic levels. Improved control over one's own health means improvement in the quality of life of many patients: it means fewer hospital visits, a more productive work life and less stress at home. Fewer hospital admissions and a reduction in primary care contacts also mean that there is less strain on the NHS.

Diabetes UK Scotland has argued that there is a saving of more than £23,000 over two years, which would comfortably offset the cost of pump therapy. Let us look at the big picture and compare the cost with the costs of poorly controlled diabetes: a one-night stay in hospital following admission to accident and emergency for a diabetes emergency costs £350; one course of laser treatment for retinopathy costs £850; one procedure of dialysis treatment for kidney disease costs £500; and renal dialysis for one year costs £15,000.

Despite the outlined benefits of insulin pump therapy, it is still rare in Scotland. That is particularly problematic considering Scotland's prevalence of type 1 diabetes, which is well above the European average. Less than 1 per cent of sufferers of type 1 diabetes receive insulin pump treatment. That is in stark contrast to other parts of the world, where rates of pump use are much higher. For example, in Germany and the United States 15 per cent to 20 per cent of patients enjoy the benefits of insulin pumps. What would it mean if we had the same rate as the USA and Germany? it would mean that another 4,000 to 5,000 people in Scotland would benefit. In my region—the Highlands—that would mean a jump from six users, which is very low, to 450. In the Western Isles, it would mean a jump from only one user to 33.

What is obstructing patients from accessing the treatment, which could potentially change fundamentally the lives of so many of them? Part of the explanation is that the criteria for qualification for insulin pump therapy are currently restrictive and exclude many patients who could otherwise benefit. If a patient does not fall into the set category, they have to fund the treatment themselves, which can run into thousands of pounds. Diabetes UK Scotland has criticised the criteria, which, as members are aware, are currently under review by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence. It appears likely that the criteria will change and be relaxed, but that does not mean that our work is over—we must ensure that health boards have the funds to finance treatment for the additional patients.

A further concern is that only limited specialist centres in Scotland are able to deliver pump therapy, which means that some patients have to travel extensively. The answer to a recent parliamentary question from Christine Grahame showed that since February 2007 there has been an increase in the number of users of about 127. I give praise where praise is due: Lothian NHS Board and Tayside NHS Board should pat themselves on the back, because their levels of pump usage are well above those in England and the rest of Europe. I do not, however, have such a positive message to put out for Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board and Ayrshire and Arran NHS Board, which are in the corner with dunce's caps for their low level of pump usage.

As with most things in life, we never really appreciate the devastating extent of a disease until we suffer it ourselves. That is why I will end my speech by telling members a story about a diabetic who can tell members first hand how life-changing the effects of insulin pump therapy can be. Her name is Dorothy, she is in the gallery today and she has had type 1 diabetes for 37 years. She has struggled to control her blood sugar level, which has affected her health and deprived her of sleep. She states:

"Within 4 weeks of starting the pump, my blood glucose levels came down to 7.5. I suddenly got my life back. My appetite returned and at last I could see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Despite feeling 100% better, I still have problems with my control and it's my belief that had I got the ‘pump' earlier, I would never have experienced these problems.

For this reason and many others, I strongly believe that continuous subcutaneous insulin infusion (CSII) should be available to everyone who would benefit from it and especially to young people who have their whole life in front of them.

It is my dearest wish that they may live their life free of all diabetic complications."

I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing to follow NICE guidelines and to encourage increased use of pump therapy, to provide a new era of hope for type 1 diabetics.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan): SNP
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S3M-1888, in the name of David Stewart, on increasing access to insulin pumps. The debate ...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament notes the considerable benefits that insulin pumps have for diabetics to help them to manage their condition; notes with concern the curr...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the opportunity to debate increased access to insulin pumps specifically, but also the bigger picture of diabetes and its role in health care manag...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con): Con
I am pleased to take part in the debate and I commend David Stewart on lodging the motion. Since I entered Parliament five years ago, my focus and that of ma...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
I am sorry—I do not want to be a spoilsport, and I should have said this earlier—but applause from the public gallery is not permitted.
Karen Whitefield (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this evening's debate and congratulate David Stewart on securing a members' business debate on this important topic.Som...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab): Lab
I, too, congratulate David Stewart on securing this debate. I am slightly disappointed that there are not more members in the chamber—indeed, one party is no...
James Kelly (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the opportunity to take part in this evening's debate on the provision of insulin pumps and congratulate David Stewart on bringing the issue to the...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon): SNP
I thank David Stewart for bringing the issue to the chamber, and I thank those in the public gallery who have attended to hear the debate. Like other members...
Cathy Jamieson (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (Lab): Lab
We heard during the debate of the poor figures for Ayrshire and Arran. Given that, does the cabinet secretary feel it appropriate to get in touch specificall...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
I am always happy to follow up issues individually with health boards, and I will return to the issue of variability across boards in a minute.As members are...
Meeting closed at 17:42.