Chamber
Plenary, 06 Mar 2008
06 Mar 2008 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Rape and Sexual Offences
I am pleased to take part in this debate on the Scottish Law Commission's report on rape and sexual offences. The report and the first-ever systematic review of the investigation and prosecution of sexual offences in Scotland are landmarks in the modernisation of Scottish law and the way in which those offences are dealt with.
To effect real and lasting change, all parts of the legal system must work together towards a common goal. We are taking part in a massive shift in policy and practice, and I trust that Parliament's scrutiny of the proposed changes will lead to clear and enforceable legislation. As we have heard, Scotland has a most restrictive definition of rape, which makes statistical comparisons difficult and, in some cases, meaningless. What are meaningful, however, are the experiences of victims and the secondary ordeals that they often have in court. There are urgent calls for reform, and the extension of the definition of rape is widely thought to be overdue.
At its excellent conference this week on legal responses to rape, Rape Crisis Scotland's emphasis was on redressing the balance—a balance that is tipped against women, as was recognised in the recent research that showed that a female victim of rape is seen by many to carry a share of the blame because of her behaviour, her way of dress or her drinking.
Although the law may need to be framed so that it is gender neutral as far as possible, it must not be gender blind—society is not. Vulnerable boys and young men must be protected as well as vulnerable girls and young women, but we need to take into account the very attitudes of society that we are striving to change—attitudes that, unfortunately, are held by many people, possibly including members of juries, as well as victims and perpetrators. Sadly, those attitudes, perversely, mean that girls and young women may look up to and trust men who possibly are older and probably are stronger. The breach of such badly placed trust can mean for female victims that, on top of the trauma of rape, they run the risk not just of sexually transmitted infection, but of an almost certainly unwanted pregnancy. Equal opportunities is not about treating everyone in the same way, but about treating them appropriately to their individual circumstances.
Central to the proposed reforms are the essential principles of sexual autonomy and consent, which is defined as "free agreement". That is welcome. Also welcome is the considered, non-exhaustive list of factual situations that define when a person has not consented to sexual activity, including when the person agreed or submitted to the act because he or she was subject to violence or the threat of violence.
Parliamentarians need to consider many difficult and complex questions, such as whether the proposals cover or should cover women who are trafficked for prostitution. I accept that a fine balance must be reached between the gradual approach to change that is necessitated by the peculiar nature of law reform and the understandable impatience of women's groups in particular. However, a vision of a better future needs to be within our grasp.
I commend the poster campaign by Rape Crisis Scotland that depicts women in different scenarios with the caption, "This is not an invitation to rape me". I hope that it can begin to shift the attitudes that are prevalent in our society.
I draw attention to Rape Crisis Scotland's concerns about the report and pick out two areas. First is the idea of advance consent. I question how that squares with being able to withdraw consent. I also question whether free agreement can be possible in a situation of abuse or when the complainer has been trafficked for prostitution. I share Rape Crisis Scotland's concerns. As I have touched on only a few areas from the comprehensive report, I underline that it will take a great deal of time and consideration for all its proposals to be developed properly.
Changes in the law will be no improvement if convictions can be overturned. We need clear and enforceable legislation. However, as has been said, the debate on evidence is still to be developed. Scots law requires corroboration, which the Lord Advocate has described as a significant and often insurmountable hurdle that disallows around a third of reports from going to court. Consideration, at least, needs to be given to the Moorov doctrine to see that justice is served.
The report marks an important stage in a long process of reform of legislation, prosecution practices and support services. I hope that the cabinet secretary will note that continued political leadership is essential and that all areas require to be properly and consistently funded.
Equality is at the heart of what this Parliament stands for, and through its legislative programme the Parliament will change the lives of people in Scotland. The law review was initiated by the previous Administration, and I look forward to ensuring that the original vision is implemented by the new Administration.
To effect real and lasting change, all parts of the legal system must work together towards a common goal. We are taking part in a massive shift in policy and practice, and I trust that Parliament's scrutiny of the proposed changes will lead to clear and enforceable legislation. As we have heard, Scotland has a most restrictive definition of rape, which makes statistical comparisons difficult and, in some cases, meaningless. What are meaningful, however, are the experiences of victims and the secondary ordeals that they often have in court. There are urgent calls for reform, and the extension of the definition of rape is widely thought to be overdue.
At its excellent conference this week on legal responses to rape, Rape Crisis Scotland's emphasis was on redressing the balance—a balance that is tipped against women, as was recognised in the recent research that showed that a female victim of rape is seen by many to carry a share of the blame because of her behaviour, her way of dress or her drinking.
Although the law may need to be framed so that it is gender neutral as far as possible, it must not be gender blind—society is not. Vulnerable boys and young men must be protected as well as vulnerable girls and young women, but we need to take into account the very attitudes of society that we are striving to change—attitudes that, unfortunately, are held by many people, possibly including members of juries, as well as victims and perpetrators. Sadly, those attitudes, perversely, mean that girls and young women may look up to and trust men who possibly are older and probably are stronger. The breach of such badly placed trust can mean for female victims that, on top of the trauma of rape, they run the risk not just of sexually transmitted infection, but of an almost certainly unwanted pregnancy. Equal opportunities is not about treating everyone in the same way, but about treating them appropriately to their individual circumstances.
Central to the proposed reforms are the essential principles of sexual autonomy and consent, which is defined as "free agreement". That is welcome. Also welcome is the considered, non-exhaustive list of factual situations that define when a person has not consented to sexual activity, including when the person agreed or submitted to the act because he or she was subject to violence or the threat of violence.
Parliamentarians need to consider many difficult and complex questions, such as whether the proposals cover or should cover women who are trafficked for prostitution. I accept that a fine balance must be reached between the gradual approach to change that is necessitated by the peculiar nature of law reform and the understandable impatience of women's groups in particular. However, a vision of a better future needs to be within our grasp.
I commend the poster campaign by Rape Crisis Scotland that depicts women in different scenarios with the caption, "This is not an invitation to rape me". I hope that it can begin to shift the attitudes that are prevalent in our society.
I draw attention to Rape Crisis Scotland's concerns about the report and pick out two areas. First is the idea of advance consent. I question how that squares with being able to withdraw consent. I also question whether free agreement can be possible in a situation of abuse or when the complainer has been trafficked for prostitution. I share Rape Crisis Scotland's concerns. As I have touched on only a few areas from the comprehensive report, I underline that it will take a great deal of time and consideration for all its proposals to be developed properly.
Changes in the law will be no improvement if convictions can be overturned. We need clear and enforceable legislation. However, as has been said, the debate on evidence is still to be developed. Scots law requires corroboration, which the Lord Advocate has described as a significant and often insurmountable hurdle that disallows around a third of reports from going to court. Consideration, at least, needs to be given to the Moorov doctrine to see that justice is served.
The report marks an important stage in a long process of reform of legislation, prosecution practices and support services. I hope that the cabinet secretary will note that continued political leadership is essential and that all areas require to be properly and consistently funded.
Equality is at the heart of what this Parliament stands for, and through its legislative programme the Parliament will change the lives of people in Scotland. The law review was initiated by the previous Administration, and I look forward to ensuring that the original vision is implemented by the new Administration.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson):
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-1490, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on the Scottish Law Commission's report on rape and sexual offences.
The Lord Advocate (Elish Angiolini):
The Parliament will be aware that the First Minister announced last year that the Scottish Government will bring forward legislation in the light of the Scot...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab):
Lab
Will the Lord Advocate take an intervention on that point?
The Lord Advocate:
I have a great deal to say. I will take the member's point later.The Scottish Law Commission's proposals seek to challenge existing norms by creating a great...
Elaine Smith:
Lab
I apologise—I have to attend a meeting and so I cannot contribute to the debate.Does the Lord Advocate agree that the rape of women by men is an act of viole...
The Lord Advocate:
The answer to the first question is clear. Sexual offending tends to be the exploitation of power. It is about the abuse of power in relation to the victims,...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I will consider that while you continue, if I may.
The Lord Advocate:
On Ms Smith's point about those who have been trafficked, in circumstances where someone has been abducted and there is clear evidence that there is an absen...
Margo MacDonald (Lothians) (Ind):
Ind
Further to that point—
The Lord Advocate:
I will take Ms MacDonald's point later.The commission's proposal is important and the Parliament must consider it with great care.Equally important is the co...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab):
Lab
Labour welcomes the long-awaited report from the Scottish Law Commission on the reform of rape and sexual offences law. The report is good and we thank the c...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con):
Con
I welcome the debate, which is likely to continue for some months and, indeed, years, because we must get this particular legislation right. I also welcome t...
Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD):
LD
I welcome the Scottish Law Commission's final report on rape and other sexual offences and the consultation on its findings. The proposed legislation and the...
Shirley-Anne Somerville (Lothians) (SNP):
SNP
I welcome the final report from the Scottish Law Commission and the commitment from the Scottish Government to bring about much-needed reform of the law on r...
Marlyn Glen (North East Scotland) (Lab):
Lab
I am pleased to take part in this debate on the Scottish Law Commission's report on rape and sexual offences. The report and the first-ever systematic review...
Gil Paterson (West of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
First, I declare an interest as a board member of Central Scotland Rape Crisis and Sexual Abuse Centre. I pay tribute to the Parliament's continuing work on ...
Bill Aitken:
Con
I am well aware of the member's close interest in such matters, but if he checked the figures he would learn that the conviction rate for the number of cases...
Gil Paterson:
SNP
Although I bow to the figure supplied by Bill Aitken, it does not alter what I will say. However, I will check the figures again.No right-thinking person, wh...
Margo MacDonald (Lothians) (Ind):
Ind
I join the debate because I want clarification on only one point that was reported in the newspapers during the week. The Lord Advocate will be pleased to kn...
Gil Paterson:
SNP
Margo MacDonald is perhaps suggesting that it would be difficult to say that men who pay for sex unknowingly rape a person. However, I hope that the member a...
Margo MacDonald:
Ind
I thank the member for that information, of which I am aware—I abhor that situation as much as the member does. However, the same treatment can be meted out ...
Helen Eadie (Dunfermline East) (Lab):
Lab
I support Pauline McNeill's amendment and all that she said. I welcome the consultation on the draft bill, which is published at the end of the Scottish Law ...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
Members will forgive me for saying again that as I am speaking late in the debate I will resist the temptation to repeat what others have said and instead tr...
Mike Pringle (Edinburgh South) (LD):
LD
This is the third time in as many weeks that I have spoken in Parliament on a complex and emotive issue. I welcome the debate, which presents an opportunity ...
Margo MacDonald:
Ind
Has the member considered that the attitudes of juries might determine the matter about which he asks?
Mike Pringle:
LD
I do not doubt that that is part of the problem and I will return to that issue. However, I maintain that analysis should be done in that area.Progress has b...
John Lamont (Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con):
Con
Today's debate has been very interesting and informative, and the wider debate, particularly on the law of rape, has also been very well informed. I also wel...
Margo MacDonald:
Ind
I will just raise an intriguing point. If the way in which the style of dress can be provocative is not to contribute to being attacked—I agree that that is ...
John Lamont:
Con
My point is that society needs to be much more widely aware of the matter. People need to understand that simply wearing a certain piece of clothing does not...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab):
Lab
We have heard several powerful and thoughtful speeches on what—as several members have said—is a very complex area of law. When we analyse the Law Commission...