Chamber
Plenary, 07 Feb 2008
07 Feb 2008 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Survivors of Institutional Abuse
Perpetrators will, obviously, be invited to take part in the proceedings of the truth and reconciliation forum, as has happened in models elsewhere in the world—the South Africa model is the classic example. However, I am open to persuasion on the example that we should follow. You mentioned the Irish model, but models exist in other parts of the world. New Zealand provides an interesting example. Financial compensation or redress is not part of the picture there. The key issue for survivors of abuse is to be able to relay their experiences, get them out into the public domain and have them recognised, and to get perpetrators or organisations that were responsible to admit what happened. That is the key element that allows individuals to move forward with their lives and lead fulfilling lives, and not to continue to be scarred by what happened in the past. As you know, the Catholic Church in Ireland has put up a substantial amount of money to assist financial compensation. At this stage, I am not persuaded that we should follow that model, but, as I said, I am open to persuasion and argument.
I turn to social work training and qualifications. It is clear that some of the problems with residential care and other social care services were a consequence of people's lack of qualifications, knowledge and understanding. We must improve the skills set in the social care workforce. Shaw highlighted that matter, and it is a priority of mine.
Under the new relationship with local government, we will work with our local authorities on the matter to maintain and improve training efforts at the local level. Just yesterday, I spoke at a conference hosted by the Scottish Social Services Council, at which a learning qualifications framework and new qualifications were introduced.
The key finding of the Shaw report relates to children's rights. Throughout the history of abuse, children were not listened to—their stories were not believed. We must address that. Last October, in my first statement on the subject, I indicated that I had spoken to the Commissioner for Children and Young People in Scotland about how to engage children in the Kerelaw inquiry. The key to future progress is to ensure that children's voices are heard and believed in residential care systems.
I turn to social work training and qualifications. It is clear that some of the problems with residential care and other social care services were a consequence of people's lack of qualifications, knowledge and understanding. We must improve the skills set in the social care workforce. Shaw highlighted that matter, and it is a priority of mine.
Under the new relationship with local government, we will work with our local authorities on the matter to maintain and improve training efforts at the local level. Just yesterday, I spoke at a conference hosted by the Scottish Social Services Council, at which a learning qualifications framework and new qualifications were introduced.
The key finding of the Shaw report relates to children's rights. Throughout the history of abuse, children were not listened to—their stories were not believed. We must address that. Last October, in my first statement on the subject, I indicated that I had spoken to the Commissioner for Children and Young People in Scotland about how to engage children in the Kerelaw inquiry. The key to future progress is to ensure that children's voices are heard and believed in residential care systems.
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The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson):
NPA
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The Minister for Children and Early Years (Adam Ingram):
SNP
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The Presiding Officer:
NPA
The minister will now take questions on issues raised in his statement. I intend to allow around 30 minutes for questions, after which we will move on to the...
Mary Mulligan (Linlithgow) (Lab):
Lab
I thank the minister for his statement and for the early sight of it, and I join him in thanking Tom Shaw for his comprehensive report. We all recognise the ...
Adam Ingram:
SNP
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The Presiding Officer:
NPA
Minister, I encourage you, as I encourage all members, not to refer to other members in the second person singular, but to use their full names. Thank you ve...
Elizabeth Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
I pay tribute to the Government for bringing the matter urgently to the Parliament and I thank the minister for early sight of his statement.There is no ques...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I am sorry—my instruction not to use the second person singular applies not just to the minister, but to all members.
Elizabeth Smith:
Con
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
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Hugh O'Donnell (Central Scotland) (LD):
LD
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
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The Presiding Officer:
NPA
We come now to back-bench questions. There are nine members who wish to ask questions and 15 minutes to fit them in—I encourage brevity in questions and answ...
Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP):
SNP
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
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Michael McMahon (Hamilton North and Bellshill) (Lab):
Lab
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
I have had no direct discussions with the petitioners as yet, although I pay tribute to them for bringing their petitions to the Scottish Parliament, and to ...
Trish Godman (West Renfrewshire) (Lab):
Lab
In your statement, you say that you believe—
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I ask the member to refer to "his" statement, please.
Trish Godman:
Lab
Oh dear, imagine me getting that wrong. Minister, in your statement you state that the Government believes in improving status, morale and skills for residen...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I will not, but we will ask the minister.
Adam Ingram:
SNP
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Christina McKelvie (Central Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
I am in discussions with the Scottish Social Services Council on those matters. The member is quite correct to say that the registration process with regard ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab):
Lab
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
I acknowledge the member's knowledge and expertise and I guarantee that the funding for the commissioning of the new in-care abuse service will be additional...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab):
Lab
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
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Aileen Campbell (South of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
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Adam Ingram:
SNP
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