Committee
Transport and the Environment Committee, 04 Mar 2003
04 Mar 2003 · S1 · Transport and the Environment Committee
Item of business
Planning
Jim Mackinnon:
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The Ayr and Prestwick green belt was originally designated as an airport safeguarding zone for Prestwick, which covered a very small area. It is only in the past two years that the green belt has been extended right round Ayr.John Prescott said that the green belt was an achievement that the Government meant to build on. Although I would not say that, the Executive has a firm commitment to green belt policy. It is also important to recognise that the green belt was the outcome of a long-term settlement strategy that looked at the demand for development in the longer term.In some ways, the situation in Ayr is similar to that in Edinburgh. There is no supply of vacant and derelict land in Ayr and development in the town is therefore constrained. That poses difficult choices about whether to expand into the green belt on the north, east and south of the town, or whether to go beyond that.We take John Scott's point about Prestwick airport. We specifically mentioned the airport as needing to be identified as an asset, not only for Ayrshire, but more broadly. His point about transport is also well made. That is one of the themes that has come through. Angus MacKay made a point about connecting into city regions. Ayrshire has a distinct identity, but we look for Ayrshire to connect not only with Glasgow and the Clyde valley, but with Edinburgh and the Lothians.We do not have a great deal of experience of marine environment planning, because planning controls end at the low water mark, although they will be extended in due course to cover marine fish farming. We will have to consider the issue, perhaps not in the current national planning framework, but in future versions, because there is a degree of interest in how the marine environment is planned and in how strategic contexts for offshore wind farms, for example, are set.
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The Convener:
Lab
I move the meeting back into public for agenda item 8, which is a planning briefing. I welcome back to the committee the Deputy Minister for Social Justice, ...
The Deputy Minister for Social Justice (Des McNulty):
Lab
As a former member of the Transport and the Environment Committee, I know that there was a perception that the committee might not have had enough time to pa...
The Convener:
Lab
It would be best to hear Jim Mackinnon's presentation first.
Jim Mackinnon (Scottish Executive Development Department):
I will talk members through the book of slides that we have circulated. What is driving us towards a national planning framework for Scotland? First, there i...
The Convener:
Lab
I thank Des McNulty and Jim Mackinnon for their contributions. We move to a question-and-answer session. I am sure that members want to ask a wide range of q...
Bruce Crawford:
SNP
I need to go at about quarter-past 12, so it is useful that I can ask my questions first. I thank the minister for coming along with Jim Mackinnon to speak t...
Des McNulty:
Lab
I made it four areas. I will begin with renewables. As the UK energy strategy was published only last week, we will need to look at it in some detail to iden...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
I will ask an extremely broad-brush question. Diagrams such as the map make me very nervous. Is the underlying philosophy that we target our thoughts and eff...
The Convener:
Lab
The map that Nora referred to is the one that is centred on Edinburgh.
Des McNulty:
Lab
The issue is not just about the further-flung parts of Scotland. Some of the other maps that Jim Mackinnon produced show that there are issues to do with pro...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
I would just like to get a handle on whether the basic philosophy is one of embracing the fact that, given modern technology and good infrastructure, busines...
Jim Mackinnon:
We talked about the national planning framework identifying other areas where that approach might be appropriate, and about the benefits of new technology in...
Angus MacKay (Edinburgh South) (Lab):
Lab
I am encouraged by what Jim Mackinnon has just said, because he is talking about putting the horse before the cart, rather than the other way round. However,...
Des McNulty:
Lab
I would broadly agree with the thrust of Angus MacKay's comments. Our economic strategy is defined by "A Smart, Successful Scotland", but it makes no sense t...
The Convener:
Lab
I will give you the chance to come back in later, Nora. However, all the committee members want to ask questions, and we have to deal with some questions on ...
Maureen Macmillan:
Lab
I will be brief. I was interested in the proactive-reactive balance. You talked about how there was a great range of economies in the Highlands. There is no ...
Des McNulty:
Lab
I will take the last point first. One of the objectives of the process of revisiting the planning system is to reduce the circumstances in which information ...
Maureen Macmillan:
Lab
Transport is involved, too.
Jim Mackinnon:
I will pick up on a couple of those points. Maureen Macmillan asked what would happen if we get things wrong. The minister made the point that we are not tal...
John Scott:
Con
I want to raise three points. The first is a general point about marine planning. "Towards A National Planning Framework" makes no mention of that. The time ...
Jim Mackinnon:
The Ayr and Prestwick green belt was originally designated as an airport safeguarding zone for Prestwick, which covered a very small area. It is only in the ...
Fiona McLeod (West of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
My question is on a theme arising from what a number of people have said. We are discussing "Towards a National Planning Framework". How will you move from t...
The Convener:
Lab
That was not an attempt to get any slogans in, was it?
Fiona McLeod:
SNP
No. I tried to get Clydebank in.
Des McNulty:
Lab
I am sympathetic to what Fiona McLeod suggests, whatever her use of language. We must move from a developer-led planning system to one that recognises the ac...
The Convener:
Lab
I have some questions that concern not a local interest, but a petition that the committee has been considering. We thought that today would be a good opport...
Des McNulty:
Lab
As at least two of those questions are of a technical nature, it might be appropriate to refer those directly to Jim Mackinnon. If it seems reasonable to the...
Jim Mackinnon:
There is no statutory requirement to consult the public on environmental impact statements, but our advice note gives a strong hint that public consultation ...
Des McNulty:
Lab
One particular issue that arises out of this and other cases relates to local authority boundaries and to the consultation of people living in adjacent local...
The Convener:
Lab
I think that both John Scott and Fiona McLeod wish to speak—or is it just Fiona?