Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
14
Parties on record
2,096,228
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Showing 60 of 2,096,228 contributions. Latest 30 days: 3,758. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 11 Jun 2026.
Ben Macpherson SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
As Willie Rennie referred to, the report by Professor Sir Ian Boyd will be shared publicly, alongside SRUC’s response, after its board meeting later this month. As Willie Rennie will do, the Government and I will consider that report carefully. I look forward to engaging with ...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
The minister will know that Professor Sir Ian Boyd has been commissioned by the board of SRUC to produce a report into the future of the institution in north-east Fife and Cupar for the longer term—a vision that has been long awaited. That report has now been handed over to th...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I will take a supplementary question from Willie Rennie.
Ben Macpherson SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I thank Michelle Campbell for her kind words, and I welcome her to the chamber. I would simply emphasise that she raises important points that are relevant both to the two colleges that she mentioned, which are either in her constituency or serve her constituents, and to SRUC,...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
That is a little bit off the main question. Minister, do you wish to respond?
Michelle Campbell (Renfrewshire North and Cardonald) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
First and foremost, I thank the minister for his dedication to this area. I am glad to see him return as the minister.The sustainability of Scotland’s college sector is vital in strengthening our skilled workforce and supporting our young people into positive destinations. I h...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I will take a supplementary question from Michelle Campbell.
Ben Macpherson SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I refer to my first answer, but I recognise the importance of the Elmwood campus and that consideration of its future is relevant to skills provision, which was raised by the member, and the local community. If the member wants to write to me with feedback from their engagemen...
Julie MacDougall Reform Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I have recently met farmers across the region who are seriously concerned about the lack of available opportunities for the next generation of skilled rural workers. Courses covering horticulture, animal care and green-keeping were unique local offerings at Elmwood. If Elmwood...
The Minister for Innovation, Technology and Tertiary Education (Ben Macpherson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
I thank Julie MacDougall for raising this important issue. Although SRUC is an autonomous institution with responsibility for its own decisions in relation to provision and facilities at Elmwood, I would expect it to take into account the needs of students, staff and the wider...
Julie MacDougall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scotland’s Rural College (Elmwood Campus)
To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update regarding the future of the Elmwood campus of Scotland’s Rural College in Cupar. (S7O-00052)
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
We are committed to building on progress. There is always more to do. Since July last year, long waits have fallen significantly, with new out-patient waits of more than a year down by 76 per cent and in-patient day-case waits of more than a year down by almost half. That has ...
Heather Anderson (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
I thank Mr Marra for his interest in waiting times across NHS Tayside, and I share some of his concerns. However, I am very conscious that the Scottish National Party Government has achieved month-on-month reductions in waiting times for 11 months in a row. I would appreciate ...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
I very much appreciate Mr Marra’s concern, even if I nonetheless believe that it is somewhat misplaced. He might be relieved to know that NHS Tayside is making very clear progress in specialties including gynaecology, for example, where the number of people waiting has reduced...
Michael Marra Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
I find deeply disappointing the idea that the Government does not have any position on a recruitment freeze in NHS Tayside for critical posts involved in care. The cabinet secretary should know that there are significant delays—for instance, in gynaecological care and women’s ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
The Scottish Government leads on the co-ordination of national activity designed to grow and retain the national health service workforce in line with service need. Decisions on the staffing of individual services are matters for health boards, which should ensure that they ha...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · NHS Tayside (Recruitment Freeze)
To ask the Scottish Government what assessment it has made of any impact of NHS Tayside’s recruitment freeze on patient care and waiting times across Dundee and the wider Tayside region. (S7O-00051)
Ben Macpherson SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
I underlined our commitment in my first answer: we are working closely with partners, as the majority funder, and we will consider the business case through a robust assurance and approval process once it is submitted.Let us not look back—let us look forward and work together....
Donald MacKinnon Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
I plan to be in Barra tomorrow. Can the minister give me a timeline for the delivery of the long-promised campus project so that I can give my constituents in Barra the reassurance that it will finally become a reality?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
Please ask a question.
Donald MacKinnon Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
Although I welcome the minister’s commitment to the project, it is now 20 years since it was acknowledged that St Brendan’s hospital was in need of replacement. The people of Barra and Vatersay have had to deal with repeated false starts, delays and broken promises in that tim...
The Minister for Innovation, Technology and Tertiary Education (Ben Macpherson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
I welcome Donald MacKinnon to the chamber. I look forward to working constructively with him and I pay tribute to his predecessor, Alasdair Allan.In answer to his important question, the Barra and Vatersay community campus project was included in our programme for government, ...
Donald MacKinnon (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Barra and Vatersay Community Campus
To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on the current status of the Barra and Vatersay community campus project. (S7O-00050)
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Patient Waiting Times (Moray)
Orthopaedics remains a priority as we continue to focus on the reduction of long waits, which means that in-patient and day-case waits of more than 52 weeks have reduced by almost half. We are also increasing orthopaedics capacity through our national treatment centres, includ...
Laura Mitchell SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Patient Waiting Times (Moray)
I recognise the progress that has been made in recent months to tackle the longest waits for secondary-care patients. However, I have been contacted by several constituents who continue to face lengthy waiting times for orthopaedic surgery. Will the Scottish Government set out...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Patient Waiting Times (Moray)
My commitment to tackle long waits is unwavering. To date this year, we have invested an additional £100 million to increase capacity and support boards, including NHS Grampian, to build on the progress that we have made in reducing long waits. We have made real and sustained ...
Laura Mitchell (Moray) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Patient Waiting Times (Moray)
To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to reduce waiting times for patients in Moray. (S7O-00049)
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
General Question Time
The first item of business is general question time. In order to get in as many people as possible, I would prefer short and succinct questions and answers to match.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
Thank you, cabinet secretary. That concludes the debate, and—this is my first time saying this—I close this meeting.Meeting closed at 18:45.
Màiri McAllan SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
It is right to say that, with any kind of disruption—even when Glasgow’s streets are being showcased in international film and TV—we must be considerate of businesses. I am always interested in hearing about ways in which we can do that better.However, there is another angle t...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I very much share the sentiments of the cabinet secretary and, indeed, all members who have spoken in the debate. However, I want to sound a note of caution in relation to the frequent closure of streets in Glasgow. We know that Glasgow is a very Atlantic-oriented city that of...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic (Màiri McAllan) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I thank and congratulate Alyn Smith for securing this member’s business debate, and I also thank members for their speeches. As Stephen Kerr has just reflected, this debate has been positive, and it has given all members—including me, as the new Cabinet Secretary for Education...
Stephen Kerr Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I thought that he gave a very good speech. I think that we are aligned on the idea about brass nameplates. It is important that we extract investment into Scotland. We both live in a place that is benefiting from inward investment and the exciting future that Stirling has in t...
Alyn Smith SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
Such as it is. Laughter.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I enjoyed the debate and all the speeches; what a contrast from the previous couple of hours. I congratulate Alyn Smith on securing the motion for his first members’ business debate. I hope that this does not destroy his credibility with his colleagues—
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
Meal do naidheachd—congratulations—to my colleague Alyn Smith on securing this members’ business debate on the importance of the screen industry in Scotland.As members will know, I believe that my constituency is Scotland’s most beautiful, because of its land and seascape and ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I congratulate Alyn Smith on securing the debate. I am pleased to speak in support of the motion and to recognise the work of Screen Scotland and the wider screen sector, particularly in creating opportunities for new talent. The fact that, 31 years ago, its closest predecesso...
Q Manivannan Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I should say that that filming is happening during recess, so I will let the programme makers know that I am available if they need me. My office will be in touch. I have also been informed that I have a passing resemblance, when the right lighting hits me, to Ben Whishaw and ...
The Minister for Innovation, Technology and Tertiary Education (Ben Macpherson) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
Considering the points that Q Manivannan has made, will they also share my praise for the programme and celebrate the fact that a second series of “Dept Q” is being filmed on the north-eastern side of Edinburgh, which is creating opportunities and showcasing more of Scotland t...
Q Manivannan (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I thank Alyn Smith for securing this debate. I shall begin with a wee bit of a disclosure. I have been informed of a television show called “Dept Q”, which was filmed in and is set in Edinburgh, but it has nothing to do with my office. I was not consulted or invited to auditio...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I thank Alyn Smith for securing this debate. The motion recognises something that is truly worth celebrating—Scotland’s screen sector is growing and it is doing so in places that we might not expect, such as Kirkcaldy and across Fife, where creative ambition, technical skill a...
Michael Marra Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I absolutely agree with Mr Melville, and he is right to highlight the cinema in Arbroath. I also point to the independent cinema in Montrose, which is supported by the local port authority on a sponsorship model; it helps to provide the facilities through the funding that it g...
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
Mr Marra and I represent the north-east of Scotland, so we also represent the Chalmers cinema in Arbroath. Does he agree that it is incumbent on all of us who want Scotland's screen sector to progress to support independent cinemas by watching films there as often as possible?
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I thank Alyn Smith for bringing the debate to the chamber; it is very welcome. As he outlined, the screen sector is very important for the whole of Scotland, and he rightly highlighted his own constituency’s particular assets in that respect.The sector makes a significant cont...
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
I am delighted to lead my first members’ business debate in the chamber on a subject of great importance not just to Stirling, but to Scotland and, indeed, to all of our constituencies and constituents. It is a success story, and something for us to celebrate, because we are a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Screen Sector
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S7M-00188, in the name of Alyn Smith, on growing Scotland’s screen sector. The debate will be concluded without any question being put.I call Alyn Smith to open the debate.Motion debated,That the Parliament wel...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
← Back to list
Committee

Local Government Committee, 03 May 2000

03 May 2000 · S1 · Local Government Committee
Item of business
Budget Process
Councillor Craig Roberton (Convention of Scottish Local Authorities): Watch on SPTV
Thank you very much.

We are pleased to be here today and welcome your invitation. We have circulated a paper, which gives some detail on the case that we will make today. I will briefly go over the main points in it; after that, we will be happy to answer any questions that the committee might have.

The second page is headed "Existing Resource Pressures". I will start by giving the committee our views on that. Members will see further down the page that, since reorganisation in 1996-97, the local government share of the Scottish block has declined from 40 per cent of the block to 36 per cent, which equates to a 10 per cent decline in our share. There has been an absolute decline. Had local government received the same funding that other services in the Scottish block have received, we would have had an outturn of about £0.5 billion more than we currently have. That is an increase, but in revenue terms we have had a decrease of £100 million.

That has had serious implications for local government over the period. As we state in our submission, facilities have closed, charges have increased and there have been 13,000 job losses and a fairly substantial increase in the council tax levied in aggregate overall. The 41 per cent figure for the increase in council tax income equates to the increase of last year, but in the current year there has been another substantial round of increases. I am not sure what the figure since reorganisation stands at now, but it might be 50 per cent.

We are at odds with the Executive in respect of the allocation of resources. We feel that there is evidence that someone has got their figures wrong. The Executive established expenditure for local government through grant-aided expenditure figures. The figures in annexe B show that GAE, in aggregate, for Scotland for the current year is £440 million less than the budget of local government. As a councillor, I would say that the last thing that any council wants to do—for political reasons as much as any others—is to increase its council tax, yet that makes up the difference. What we spend, and therefore what we have to levy, is £440 million more than the money that the Government feels is appropriate for local government to spend. There is obviously room for analysis and a review of the methodology that is adopted by the civil service in respect of the allocation for each service in each local authority. I do not believe that we would be spending £440 million more if we did not need to do so.

We have had to absorb a number of elements over the period. The most significant is the pay rises that we have had to absorb. Since 1993, no provision has been made in any allocation by central Government for the pay rises that local authorities have to deal with year on year. We estimate that they have cost about £700 million, which has had to be absorbed within current expenditure.

Another significant element is the fairly massive reduction in capital allocations. We estimate that about 50 per cent of the capital allocations that were given a few years ago have been removed from the current allocation. That has an impact, especially in terms of efficiency. As I am sure all committee members are aware, local government is a labour-intensive service, so the only major improvements that can be made in efficiency are brought about by capital investment, perhaps in new technology or new buildings. Capital investment has been seriously curtailed over the past three or four years, which has had an impact.

Members will see a number of headings in the section on future funding requirements, which shows the increasing demand that we have had to absorb over the past few years, including demand arising from demographic changes, demand for new services, and demand arising from social changes and legislative changes brought about by central Government and from maintaining assets. Those are all matters that we have had to do our best to accommodate within the reducing resources that we have received. We state in our submission that the Executive's

"simplistic approach of assuming that such cost pressures can be met by efficiency savings is not consistent with open, honest and transparent arrangements."

McIntosh referred to that in his report. I know that the committee has taken on board McIntosh's belief that the present arrangement does not provide for transparency or accountability in the provision of local government services. It would be a start if the Executive were to recognise that the present allocations do not take into account adequately all the pressures on local government.

The last page of the paper contains some of our suggestions for improvements. There are some helpful trends of which we approve, such as agreeing joint service priorities, to try to get community planning to operate in a way that allows us to kick the ball into the same goal mouth. Local government will find three-year planning useful, because year-on-year uncertainties have always presented local government with difficulties, which three-year planning might address. While I might return to the relaxation of controls in my summary, we also mention the pooling of funding streams and reviewing public expenditure definitions—the latter point might be useful in relation to self-financed expenditure and section 94 consents. That is a somewhat technical issue, which I will not go into, but suffice it to say that section 94 implies double consent for all capital expenditure made by local government, which we do not think is necessary. If that requirement were lifted, the level of capital expenditure, to which I referred earlier as being reduced, could be reinstated.

We are looking for agreement that a partnership exists between local government and central Government and that there are shared priorities on many issues. We agree with the Government's priorities, which are often the same as those indicated to local government by our own electorate. However, the key to achieving that partnership is to allow local government the flexibility and freedom to operate in whichever way it sees fit to reach those outcomes, and for central Government not to dictate to local government.

We are looking for three things. First, we want a review of the allocation methodology, to ensure that all 32 authorities in Scotland receive adequate grants that are appropriate to the demands placed upon them. As I said, we think that there is something at odds with the methodology that is in operation, in terms of GAE—we think that we are spending more than GAE and there must be a reason for that difference. That issue must be examined.

Secondly, we would support the return of the business rate to local government control as another useful development. I know that McIntosh made much of that issue—indeed, I think that that was his recommendation. We believe that returning the business rate to local government control would extend the local tax base. It would also provide the means for a dialogue between local authorities and the business community, rather than the totally spurious dialogue that exists at present, with every local authority being seen as just a tax gatherer for central Government. Local authorities do not set the business rate and, while they collect it, they do not receive, pro rata, exactly what they collect—they receive only a pooled share. The business rate has become part of central Government taxation. We believe that returning business rates to local authority control would provide scope for considerable improvement in the relationship between businesses, local authorities and the local electorate.

Thirdly, we want flexibility. I referred to the fact that we are unhappy with ring fencing and with the trend that appears to be emerging from the Executive whereby around 10 per cent of local government expenditure is ring-fenced. That is particularly the case in education, where the minister decides not only what money will be spent but how that money will be spent. We do not think that that is appropriate, as every authority in Scotland has a different approach and a different demand base. If we had that flexibility, we could achieve the same outcomes, but in a way that was more appropriate to each local authority.

We have had ludicrous situations where money has been available for particular services, but the local authority has been unable to spend it. There might, for instance, be money for classroom assistants but no money for teachers. That sort of thing demonstrates the inadequacy of the system.

That is all we have to say. If we had had an adequate allocation over the past few years, some of the other issues might not have arisen. We feel that adequate recognition has not been given to the fact that, since reorganisation, the replacement of the old regional and district system by 32 unitary authorities has not been reflected in the new financial arrangements—either in the global allocation or in the detail of distribution. We believe that that should be examined, which is why we would support a review of all or part of local government finance as it is currently organised.

I am happy to take any questions that the committee has.

In the same item of business

The Convener (Trish Godman): Lab
Good morning, comrades.If the SNP and Johann Lamont stop talking, we can start.
Mr Kenneth Gibson (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
Does Colin Campbell speak for all of us?
The Convener: Lab
Yes, he speaks for all of you.
Colin Campbell (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
What did I say?
The Convener: Lab
We will take evidence this morning from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. We have with us Councillor Craig Roberton, who is the COSLA spokesman o...
Councillor Craig Roberton (Convention of Scottish Local Authorities):
Thank you very much.We are pleased to be here today and welcome your invitation. We have circulated a paper, which gives some detail on the case that we will...
The Convener: Lab
Thank you. As you know, the Executive has considered some of the things that you mentioned, such as the possibility of three-year funding. This committee has...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD): LD
I would like to ask you about two things, one of which you have touched on and one of which you have not. Many of us who were councillors in the past had con...
Councillor Roberton:
It would be difficult to give you a figure for charges now. We could provide figures for the overall increase in charges, but its implications for services a...
Mr Stone: LD
Do not the witnesses agree that there is a potential problem because that arrangement is based on a gentlemen's agreement, which means that the members of th...
Councillor Roberton:
I am not certain that a police board or a fire board would act in unison in that respect. They would find it difficult to reach consensus on an increase—ther...
Norie Williamson (Convention of Scottish Local Authorities):
I would like to make a couple of comments.When local government was reorganised, it was recognised that there might be a problem with—if I may say this—peopl...
The Convener: Lab
Before Kenny Gibson asks his questions, I would like to say that community councils and other such groups that are concerned about crime in their areas are a...
Mr Gibson: SNP
Thank you for your excellent document and presentation; I wish that the Scottish Executive produced such clear-sighted documents.
The Convener: Lab
Just ignore him.
Colin Campbell: SNP
He will not go away, however.
Councillor Roberton:
Perhaps we have better officers than the Executive does.
Mr Gibson: SNP
We took evidence from the Scottish Executive last week; the Official Report was published only this morning, so you will not have had the chance to see it. I...
Councillor Roberton:
To someone of your political viewpoint, it is of interest that these rules are Treasury rules. There seems to be a contradiction in the responses that you ha...
Norie Williamson:
Annexe A of our submission is a straight copy of the statement made by the Minister for Finance last October. The top two lines of the table are of special s...
Mr Gibson: SNP
It depends on whether a common view can be reached on that.
Norie Williamson:
It was interesting that down south there was a joint approach by the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions and the Local Government Associ...
Mr Gibson: SNP
I have a supplementary question on the amount of money that is raised by council tax. In his presentation last week, Professor Midwinter said that the propor...
Councillor Roberton:
Council tax is only one of the three elements of local government funding. Council tax replaced the poll tax, which replaced the rating system. Historically,...
Mr Gibson: SNP
But you think that the—
The Convener: Lab
Kenny, I have to stop you. Six other members want to speak. If there is time at the end, you can come back in.
Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
I would like to pursue the same line of questioning. There seems to be a serious disagreement between the Executive's civil servants and people in local gove...
Councillor Roberton:
I agree wholeheartedly with all those points, Donald. If you look at annexe A, which gives the expenditure that was provided by the Scottish Executive—they a...
Bristow Muldoon (Livingston) (Lab): Lab
You raised the issue of business rates, which many local authorities have raised with us in the past. You will be aware that the Executive is reluctant to go...
Councillor Roberton:
Much would depend on the way in which the matter was handled. Businesses are generally fearful of the idea of business rates being returned to the control of...