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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
That concludes the urgent question. We will have a one-minute break to switch over, after which we will resume with portfolio questions.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I understand the motivation behind Mr Smith’s questions. He will understand that Police Scotland, the Courts and Tribunals Service and the Crown are rightly independent of Government. However, what we are able to see from the footage that Mr Kerr and Mr Smith have alluded to s...
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I commend Paul Sweeney for his contributions in the chamber. There is a lot of unanimity across the Parliament, and we should all be careful with our words in general when discussing such matters.These are aggravated offences. I commend the cabinet secretary for his response, ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I agree with Mr Kerr’s points. Of course, there is a right to protest and to organise peacefully, but that is not what we saw last night. We saw thuggery and intimidatory tactics seeking to divide communities. They will not succeed in Scotland.Last night, I was in live dialogu...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Looking at the footage of last night’s events, we see that it was not protest but criminal disorder. Families should be able to go about their daily lives in Scotland without fear of violence, intimidation or public disorder from a gang of balaclava-clad hooligans.Will the cab...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
In the first instance, those efforts are being led by Police Scotland in the work that it is doing to reassure communities across Scotland. Work is ongoing in Government to ensure that we are able to protect and enhance communities, including minority ethnic groups and religio...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen and Cambuslang) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The scenes in Glasgow city centre and in other parts of Scotland—and, indeed, in Belfast—were truly shocking. Those scenes and all racism must be condemned by all parties in the chamber. Shame on those who choose not to do so.How will the Scottish Government reach out to and w...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I fundamentally and completely agree with what Paul Sweeney has said—I believe that to my core. We are a welcoming nation. We have benefited from migration to this country and we continue to benefit from it. I say that particularly given the offices that I have held in health ...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Some members of the Parliament have sought to fan the flames of division with continual talk of “strangers” and calls for further protests tonight. Does the cabinet secretary agree that every one of us in the Parliament has a duty to calm tensions in this country and not to in...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Before Paul Sweeney comes back in, I say to him that I am looking for questions rather than speeches. Other members are keen to come in, so it is important that we keep questions as brief as possible.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I completely agree with everything that Paul Sweeney has put on the record in his supplementary question. The Scottish Government’s approach is grounded in tackling hate consistently and proportionately across all communities, which is underpinned by a zero-tolerance stance on...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Last night, racist thugs stormed through the centre of Glasgow under the white nationalist slogan “White lives matter”. Members of the public were attacked indiscriminately because of the colour of their skin, and two police officers were injured. My prayers are with those who...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The actions of a very small number of individuals in parts of Scotland last night, which included the assaulting of police officers and members of minority ethnic communities, are shocking and unacceptable. Violence and racism have no place on our streets, and I utterly condem...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
To ask the Scottish Government what urgent action it will take in response to the reported violent racist demonstrations that took place last night in Glasgow.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
14:04
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Today’s business begins with the results of the elections for committee conveners. I will announce the results for each committee in turn.Stuart McMillan has been elected as convener of the Climate Action Committee. The total number of ballots was 121 and the results were as f...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is disappointing that Mr Hoy does not welcome the prospect of a GP walk-in service for Stranraer. The important point is that the purpose of GP walk-in services is to free up capacity in the primary care system, so that people across our constituencies and regions can be se...
Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is 77 miles from Sanquhar to Stranraer, which is a journey that takes a minimum of two hours by car or at least four hours by bus. Given that my constituents will be expected to make that journey to access the GP walk-in centre in Stranraer, does that not expose the policy ...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I expect the Glasgow site to open later this month. I very much appreciate the health board’s hard work to get the services up and running. I am sure that Michelle Campbell will join me in welcoming the opening of the sites and thanking our hard-working national health service...
Michelle Campbell (Renfrewshire North and Cardonald) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Work is well under way in preparation for Glasgow’s first walk-in clinic opening. Can the Scottish Government offer an update on when that wonderful resource for the good people of Cardonald will be open?
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Ms Gibson has made an important point about reducing health inequality by improving access to healthcare. The Government is committed to providing a North Ayrshire walk-in service, which was one of the 14 additional services that were announced. That brings the total number of...
Patricia Gibson SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
North Ayrshire’s people have Scotland’s lowest healthy life expectancy. The average adult remains in full health until just 53 years old. More than 28 per cent of people live with a long-term health condition, which is 6 per cent higher than the Scottish average. In view of th...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I have committed to expanding the walk-in service programme and will set out how I will do so in the first 100 days of this Government. Health boards were previously asked to generate proposals that considered their populations’ needs, taking into account local issues and circ...
Patricia Gibson (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
To ask the Scottish Government when it expects a general practitioner walk-in centre to open in North Ayrshire. (S7O-00023)
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
The short answer is yes. I am happy to meet Ms Minto or any other member to discuss the matter further. The challenge of multiple organisations drawing on small rural populations is not new. The SFRS works collaboratively with a range of partners, including the coastguard serv...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I appreciate that these are independent decisions to be made by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, but I am interested to know whether the Scottish Government is looking at the cumulative impact of those changes on, for example, other rescue services such as the coastguard,...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I am more than happy to explore that with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service in order to ensure that we are in a position to respond to the changing nature of fire and flood risk across Scotland. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s very successful prevention activities, a...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
Ministers previously told Parliament that almost £1 million of specialist wildfire pumping units would be deployed within weeks. A Scottish Conservative freedom of information request later revealed that they were still not operational, during Scotland’s worst wildfire season ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
These are independent decisions for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to make, but it is open to Parliament to take a view on those matters—in the way that a view is normally taken, for example, on investigations undertaken through the committee structure—or otherwise. Obvi...
Joe Fagan Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
There is profound concern about the potential outcomes of the service delivery review, not least from the firefighters and their union. Given the gravity of the decisions that are about to be made, does the Government agree that there should be full parliamentary scrutiny and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I met the SFRS board chair on 4 June, when we discussed the overall objectives of the service delivery review and the consultation and outreach process that the SFRS has undertaken. Recent large fires in Glasgow and Fife have been dealt with commendably by our front-line firef...
Joe Fagan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service board regarding the outcome of the service delivery review that is due to be considered on 22 June. (S7O-00022)
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am happy to answer.If Mr Cole-Hamilton wishes to write to me, I will write back to him as swiftly as I possibly can.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That was not quite on the nose for the general question, but do you want to respond, cabinet secretary?
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I hope that the cabinet secretary will agree that one of the safest ways to get students from Kirkliston in my constituency to their catchment high school in South Queensferry is via the council-funded coach service that has been operating well there for several years. A decis...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I realise that everyone is finding their feet, including me. I remind members that they should only press their button if they want to ask a supplementary to the general question that has been asked.Alex Cole-Hamilton has a supplementary.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
My apologies, Presiding Officer. I pressed my button in error, thinking that I would have to do that for my general question later on.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Lloyd Melville has a supplementary.
Julie MacDougall Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I apologise.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That is not relevant to this question. We are on supplementaries to the question that Patrick Harvie asked.
Julie MacDougall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I recently met the chief executive of Forth Valley College. It was incredibly harrowing to hear about how apprenticeship courses are being cut—
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Julie MacDougall has a supplementary.
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Mr Harvie will be pleased to know that £3.2 million is still going to regional transport partnerships—£1.6 million will be available for local direct awards and £1.4 million is going to bikeability schemes, which all our weans can benefit from. Of course, that forms part of a ...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am sorry that the cabinet secretary did not choose to answer that question by explaining why the cut took place and why it took place during the election purdah period. I have returned to my job to meet local community organisations that are doing the work that the Scottish ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Tourism and Transport (Stephen Flynn) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I thank Patrick Harvie for his question, because it gives me the opportunity to restate what the First Minister said. We support cycling, walking and wheeling, which is why £226 million-worth of investment is going into sustainable and active travel. I am very proud of that—I ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
To ask the Scottish Government, in light of comments made by the First Minister in the Parliament on 2 June that the Scottish Government prioritises active and safe travel routes and the encouragement of cycling, walking and wheeling, for what reason Transport Scotland reporte...
Stephen Kerr Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Thank you.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Yes.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. For guidance, would it be possible for the same person to be nominated again in those circumstances?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
The process is opened again for further nominations. However, to be clear, any other member who is nominated will have to come from the party from which the original member was selected.
Helen McDade Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
What happens then?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
If a candidate receives the majority of votes, that candidate will become the committee convener. If the majority is against it, that candidate will not be the committee convener.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I just wonder what the process is. Can you explain what happens once a vote has been cast when there is only one candidate, so that we know what we are voting against?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Willie Rennie’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Fifteen out of 15 convenerships will be subject to secret ballots.I have also received two valid nominations for convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. The nomin...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Craig Hoy’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Willie Rennie has been nominated as convener of the Transport Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was received.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Mark Ruskell’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Craig Hoy has been nominated as convener of the Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button n...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Bob Doris’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Mark Ruskell has been nominated as convener of the Rural Affairs Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Paul Sweeney’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Bob Doris has been nominated as convener of the Public Service Reform Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Neil Bibby’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Paul Sweeney has been nominated as convener of the Public Petitions Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Helen McDade’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Neil Bibby has been nominated as convener of the Public Audit Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
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Justice 2 Committee, 18 Dec 2001

18 Dec 2001 · S1 · Justice 2 Committee
Item of business
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
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Amendment 13 is a drafting amendment. The words that are being removed concern the deadline for lodging an application to introduce evidence about the complainer's character or past behaviour. Amendment 16 creates a new, somewhat stricter provision about that elsewhere in the bill; members will see that in new section 275B(1), which amendment 16 would insert in the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. By removing the words from their current location, amendment 13 is simply clearing the way for amendment 16.Amendment 16 adds a new section 275A to the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. We have already discussed the way in which that has come about, and I will not reiterate the difficulties that we have had with it. The matter is complex and it is central to the bill redressing the balance, which was the Executive's intention when it lodged amendment 16.Sections 7 and 8 create a new regime for character and sexual history evidence. In the future, there will be tighter restrictions on the use of such evidence about the complainer. However, there will still be occasions when the accused succeeds in persuading the court that such evidence is relevant to his defence, has significant value and should be admitted.When that happens, a further question arises. If the accused has argued successfully that evidence about the complainer's past is relevant, what about the accused's past? Can the accused legitimately say that, although the complainer's previous behaviour is relevant, his own behaviour is not? The law allows evidence about the accused's previous convictions to be admitted in certain circumstances. When the accused has attacked the character of any prosecution witness, the Crown can apply to introduce evidence on the accused's previous convictions. It is up to the court to decide whether to grant the application.However, as committee members will be aware from Professor Gane's evidence at stage 1, the existing law is rarely used in sexual offence trials. The perception seems to be that the courts are reluctant to grant applications and the prosecution does not often make such applications. From a reading of the material on the matter, it is also evident that the need to attack the character of the complainer arises at a late stage. One of the central tenets of amendment 16 is to shift the stage at which the debate on such matters would occur.Amendment 16 will strengthen the existing laws in two ways. First, when the accused makes a successful application to introduce evidence about the complainer's character or past behaviour, the court will be required to consider disclosure of the accused's previous sexual offence convictions. That consideration will be done automatically, rather than the court waiting for the prosecution to make an application. Secondly, there will be a presumption in favour of disclosure. However, it will be open to the accused to overturn that by satisfying the court that it would be unfair in the circumstances of his case for his records to be disclosed.I turn now to the detail of amendment 16. Subsections (1) to (3) of the proposed new section that would be inserted in the bill by amendment 16 make consequential changes to the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. The sections to be amended contain rules forbidding disclosure of previous convictions before the sentencing stage and forbid questioning of the accused about them during the trial. As we have seen, the existing law includes exceptions to that, but an additional exception will need to be made to cover the proposed new provisions in amendment 16.Proposed section 275A(1) states that, where an accused makes a successful application to lead evidence about the complainer's character or past behaviour, the prosecutor shall forthwith place any previous relevant conviction of the accused before the judge. There will therefore be a duty on the prosecutor to do that.Proposed section 275A(10) defines "relevant conviction", of which there are two types. The first type is a conviction for a crime that is contained in the list of offences to which the bill's provisions apply automatically. The second type is a conviction for any other offence that has a substantial sexual element.There are two qualifications to that definition. First, a conviction is not a relevant conviction unless it has been specified in the notice of previous convictions that is served on the accused in advance of the trial. Sections 69 and 166 of the 1995 act currently provide for those notices to be served. Secondly, where the conviction is for an offence that is not on the list in the bill, it is not a relevant conviction unless the notice of previous convictions has been accompanied by an extract of that particular conviction. An extract is an official certified copy of the conviction. The extract must disclose the alleged sexual element in the commission of the offence, so it will have to set out the precise wording of the charge.The purpose of those qualifications is to ensure that the accused receives adequate notice of the previous convictions that might be disclosed. His lawyer will then be able to advise him appropriately. Members will notice that only sexual offence convictions are defined as relevant convictions. We think that it is those convictions that are most likely to have a bearing on whether the accused committed the current offence. Other convictions, for offences such as dishonesty, are of more dubious relevance and the existing law will continue to apply to those convictions.Proposed section 275A(2) provides that a relevant conviction will automatically be admitted in evidence, unless the defence objects. Proposed section 275A(4) sets out the grounds on which an objection can be made. The first ground for objection is that the conviction is for an offence that is not included on the list in the bill and the accused denies that there was a substantial sexual element in the commission of the offence. The second ground for objection is that admitting the previous conviction in evidence"would be contrary to the interests of justice".We anticipate that that will be the most commonly used basis for objections. The third and fourth grounds relate to alleged inaccuracies in the prosecution's claims about the accused's record—for example, that the accused was not the person convicted of a particular offence in the past.Proposed section 275A(7) provides that where the accused has objected on the basis that disclosure would be contrary to the interests of justice, the onus is on the accused to satisfy the court that that would be the case. Whenever the onus is on the accused in a criminal trial, it is always on the balance of probabilities rather than being beyond reasonable doubt. There is no need for the bill to spell that out.We have not restricted the accused in the arguments that he can make to overturn the presumption in favour of disclosure. For example, it would be possible for the accused to argue that the extent of his exploration of the complainer's past was minor and that the prejudicial effect on him of disclosing his past record would be disproportionate. It could also be argued that his previous sexual offence convictions were not analogous to the current charge and so lacked relevance.Proposed sections 275A(3), 275A(5) and 275A(6) explain what information about previous convictions can be admitted in evidence. An extract of a previous conviction can set out the full wording of the charge, providing more than the basic details such as the name of the offence and the date of conviction. Proposed section 275A(3) states that an extract cannot be allowed as evidence unless it has been served on the accused before the trial. That is so that the accused can predict the material that is liable to be disclosed if he attacks the complainer's character.Where the accused objects to his previous convictions being disclosed, proposed section 275A(5) allows the prosecutor to put an extract before the court in response to that objection and without any prior notice to the accused. The prosecutor cannot know beforehand what the accused intends to do. It would not, therefore, be reasonable to make the prosecutor give notice in those circumstances. When an extract is placed before the court for that purpose, it must be used only to consider the accused's objection. Once the judge has made a decision on the disclosure, the extract must be discarded and must not be shown to any jury. In other words, the conviction will be presented to the jury but the extract will not be shown unless prior notice was given at the beginning of the trial.We have taken care throughout to ensure that the accused's advisers will be able to establish exactly what information about the accused is liable to be disclosed, if the complainer's character is attacked. Proposed section 275A seeks to ensure that fair notice is given to the accused.We believe that, when the accused has insisted on bringing in evidence about the complainer's past, the court should also receive relevant information about the accused's history. That provides the balanced picture to which we are endeavouring to give effect in the bill. Otherwise, there is a danger that the evidence that the court hears will be skewed in favour of the accused.The accused will continue to be entitled not to have his past behaviour disclosed and to be tried purely on the evidence of what happened at the time of the alleged offence. However, he must accept that that cuts both ways. When the accused argues successfully that the complainer's history is relevant and significant, the prosecution should, in principle, be able to disclose the accused's past record.There is a balance to be struck between the rights of the accused, the rights of the complainer and the rights of the wider community. Rape, in particular, is a crime with a low conviction rate. Consent defences that involve an exploration of the complainer's past are commonplace in sexual offence trials. It is in the public interest that accused persons who have committed sexual offences are convicted and are not allowed to escape justice by criticising the complainer's character or behaviour in a one-sided way, given the accused's past. It is not in the complainer's interests for the accused to be able to attack her character in the knowledge that it is unlikely that there will be any adverse consequences for him, despite his previous convictions for similar offences. However, nothing that we do can, or should, deprive the accused of the presumption of innocence. The accused has a fundamental right to a fair trial and, to that extent, his rights must be paramount.It might help the committee if I were to say something about the impact of the European convention on human rights on amendment 16. Article 6 of the convention confers the right to a fair trial. In particular, article 6.2 entitles an accused to the presumption of innocence. That means that it is for the prosecution to show that the accused committed the offence. Until that happens, the accused is entitled to be regarded as innocent of the charge. However, article 6.2 does not mean that the accused is necessarily entitled to have evidence that might reasonably affect the likelihood of his having committed the offence concealed from the court.In many of the continental countries that are signatories to the convention, the accused's previous convictions are disclosed during the trial as a matter of routine. The European Court of Human Rights has held that that practice does not, in itself, infringe article 6. Of course, there are substantial differences between those continental systems and our system. Many of the continental systems do not use lay juries and do not have an adversarial court procedure; instead, they have a process of fact finding by a trained judge. It could be argued that the judges who operate in those systems are more likely to evaluate accurately the relevance to the case of a previous conviction, rather than responding rapidly to it—such a response might be too adverse to the accused.Even in England and Wales, where jury trials are the backbone of the system, evidence of previous convictions is admitted more often than in Scotland. The doctrine of similar fact allows evidence of past offending behaviour to be introduced where it reveals a pattern of similar behaviour that can also be seen in the case that is being tried. Similar fact evidence can also include evidence of behaviour that has never resulted in a conviction. An example in the rape context is the recent case of R v Z, in which the accused was being tried for a rape. Four different women had previously accused him of raping them, resulting in one conviction and three acquittals. Details of the accused's alleged behaviour were similar in all the cases. The House of Lords held that the prosecution could put the four previous complainers into the witness box and use their evidence of what had happened to them against the accused in the current trial.English case law on similar fact evidence has become very complicated, with a long line of decisions about just how similar the past behaviour must be. The Law Commission for England and Wales has suggested a simplification of the law, in which the probative value of the past behaviour could be weighed up against its prejudicial effect. As far as we are aware, it has not been suggested that English law in that area contravenes the ECHR, or that the Law Commission's proposals would do so. For all those reasons, we are confident that amendment 16 is ECHR-compatible.Members of the committee may know that the Executive's original proposal, which was outlined in the consultation paper "Redressing the Balance", was to make disclosure of the accused's previous sexual offence convictions automatic following a successful application by the accused to introduce evidence about the complainer's character or sexual history. A majority of the consultees supported that proposal, but, on further consideration, we decided that such a provision could be too sweeping, for two reasons. First, the bill creates a weighing exercise that must be gone through before evidence about the complainer's past can be admitted. The original proposal on previous convictions would not have involved any weighing exercise for the accused's convictions. In the context of the other provisions in the bill, we thought that the original proposal could be unfair to the accused by removing the judicial screening that would have taken place when he applied to lead evidence about the complainer. Secondly, we thought that we needed to make some allowance for our system of criminal justice, which is confrontational in nature and which relies on lay juries in serious cases. Without some measure of judicial control, there could be a danger that individual juries would react negatively to a criminal record that was not really similar to the offence that was being tried. Our view was strengthened when we considered how those matters are dealt with in England and Wales.We were anxious to be able to introduce the bill before the summer recess, so that MSPs and others would be able to consider it during the summer. We did not want the provision on previous convictions to hold up the introduction of the bill. However, we did not feel that we could simply press ahead with the original proposal on previous convictions in the light of some of the concerns that had been expressed and which we felt, on further consideration, might be justified. We decided to introduce the bill without a provision on previous convictions and to take time to work out and draft a proper alternative to the original proposal. Hence, we are in the position that the convener referred to. We believe that amendment 16, as lodged, is fair and practical and that it respects the accused's human rights.Before I conclude, I will deal briefly with proposed section 275B, which is also inserted by amendment 16 into the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. Proposed section 275B(1) will require applications to introduce evidence about the complainer's character or past behaviour to be made no later than "14 clear days" before the start of the trial"unless on special cause shown".That provision should avoid the unnecessary disruption that would be caused by applications being made shortly before or part of the way through the trial. Where that happens, there is a risk that the trial may need to be postponed or adjourned. We think that applications at such a late stage should rarely be justified. A defence solicitor who has been involved from an early stage should have taken statements from all the witnesses and should know how a witness is likely to respond to a specific question.Proposed section 275B(2) of the 1995 act simply provides that an application to introduce evidence about the complainer and an objection by the accused to disclosure of his previous convictions must be heard in the absence of the jury, for obvious reasons, and in the absence of the complainer, other witnesses and the public. The existing provisions of the 1995 act make corresponding provision for sexual history evidence applications.Amendment 17 adds some wording specifically on disclosure of previous conviction to the long title of the bill, and follows on from amendment 16.I move amendment 13.

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Previous convictions have always been capable of being admitted to the court. There has been a process for that, as I will explain when we debate the amendme...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I welcome the indication from the minister that a period for consultation on the subject might be available to us.With the convener's indulgence, I would lik...
The Convener: Lab
It is significant that we are discussing the Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill on the same day that seven judges in the High Court wil...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con
The minister has been conciliatory in his approach. He recognises that the matter has not been handled terribly happily. I do not propose to labour the point...
The Convener: Lab
Does the minister accept that, whatever the result of the division today, the committee reserves the right to discuss how it wishes to deal with the matter a...
Dr Simpson:
I am not clear whether the Parliament's procedures would allow the committee to do that, but I have no problem with the committee consulting before individua...
The Convener: Lab
To my knowledge, there is no procedural difficulty. We would get ourselves into difficulty if we were to support the amendment without saying anything to the...
Dr Simpson:
The wish of all of us is that the legislation should be robust. If the committee feels that that is an appropriate way to proceed, I have no objections.
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I want to return to my point about Lord Abernethy, without pushing it too hard. Proposed section 288C(2) lists rape as one of the offences, at paragraph (a)....
Dr Simpson:
Our view is that the matter is outwith the scope of the bill. The Parliament has made its view clear that it might wish to return to the issue in a future de...
The Convener: Lab
With that understanding, we can move on. I will give the committee an opportunity after today to decide how it wishes to proceed.
Section 8—Exception to restrictions under section 274 of 1995 Act
The Convener: Lab
We move to the second marshalled list of amendments at stage 2. Amendment 13, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 16 and 17.
Dr Simpson:
Amendment 13 is a drafting amendment. The words that are being removed concern the deadline for lodging an application to introduce evidence about the compla...
The Convener: Lab
Thank you for your comprehensive and helpful statement, minister.
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I suspect that my points, which seek clarification, are relatively simple. First, when speaking about section 275A(10) in amendment 16, the minister used the...
Dr Simpson:
On indictment, the charge will list the convictions, so that answers your first point about the word "charge". The extract will add to the name of the offenc...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I want to clarify that the word "charge" refers to the current case and the word "conviction" refers to previous cases.
Dr Simpson:
That is correct.The answer to your second point is that it is up to the court to decide whether the sexual element is substantial. We did not want to limit t...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
For my benefit and, I suspect, for the benefit of my colleagues, I ask the minister to point to the part of amendment 16 that introduces the requirement for ...
Dr Simpson:
I think that the relevant paragraph is section 275A(4)(b), which refers to whether the disclosure would be "contrary to the interests of justice".That is an ...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
It is important that we pin the matter down. Is it an existing provision in Scots law that that would imply the application of a similarity test, as you led ...
Dr Simpson:
I gather that, in the form in which it is written in amendment 16, the provision is new. On the other hand, there is an implication that that is the way in w...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I suggest that the minister and his team should give some further consideration to that. I entirely support what you are trying to achieve, but I am concerne...
Dr Simpson:
The reason that section 275A is very complex is to achieve a balance whereby the accused's rights are not infringed. Subsection (4)(b) allows the judge to gi...
The Convener: Lab
Following from that, you spoke earlier of a weighing exercise. That is relevant to the present point. You are asking the judges to apply a weighing principle...
Dr Simpson:
Absolutely. I referred to whether the admission of a sexual element in a previous offence would be disproportionate. If it was disproportionate to the materi...
The Convener: Lab
Now that we have debated the issue at stage 2, Pepper v Hart would come into play. In other words, if the court was confused about what the Parliament meant ...
Dr Simpson:
The court will be able to have regard to the stage 2 proceedings.