Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 10 June 2026 [Last updated 18:45]
10 Jun 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen out of this situation. I see that Mr Rennie is nodding away, but I am afraid that that is fundamentally not the case.
I will not go into the full detail, because that would take us into the territory of internal processes, but this gets to the heart of the issue. Where such issues happen, it is of course incumbent on the organisation that has been impacted to learn lessons, which is precisely what we have done. There has been a governance review in the Scottish National Party, and processes have been improved. That has been communicated by our national treasurer directly to every constituency and branch treasurer, and by our party leader to every member of the Scottish National Party.
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab)
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson)
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Yes. The Presiding Officer has agreed that that should be the case for all debates if you take an intervention.
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