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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
That concludes the debate. I wish members, their staff and everyone else who works on the parliamentary campus a wonderful recess.Meeting closed at 18:10.
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Paul Sweeney makes a very good point, because the issue is wrapped up in our post-industrial legacy. The fact that there are such abandoned factories and that the people who enter them—whether for urban exploration or whatever else—do not understand the risks that they are exp...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
As a member of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, I welcome the news on the proposed legislation, which is very welcome. Indeed, it is something that has been long hoped for.Does the minister share my concern about the fact that the former Cape Marinite factory in ...
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I hope to be able to introduce the bill by the end of the year, but the member will appreciate that parliamentary timescales prevent me from giving a specific date at the moment. She is correct in saying that justice delayed is justice denied. I hope that all members, as well ...
Marie McNair SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I am delighted to hear it. I welcome today’s announcement on the time bar issue, which I know will be well received by asbestos sufferers and campaigners. Does the minister accept that, on this issue, justice delayed is justice denied? Can she tell us how quickly the Governmen...
The Minister for Community Care (Alison Thewliss) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank my colleague Marie McNair for bringing this debate to the chamber, which she has now done for a fifth year. I also thank all members—both those who spoke and those who were not able to speak today—for their presence and thoughtful contributions. As Carol Mochan mention...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I invite the minister to close the debate.17:58
Heather Anderson (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I, too, thank Marie McNair for securing the debate and bringing this important motion to the chamber today.I start by stressing how important it is that we continue to raise awareness of mesothelioma. I do not have a family member who contracted the disease, but I saw a poster...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for bringing this important debate to the chamber and I welcome action mesothelioma day 2026, which will be marked on 3 July.I am pleased, in the years that I have been in Parliament, to have played my part in joining Marie McNair and other members to rais...
Colm Merrick (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to today’s debate, which marks action mesothelioma day 2026. I understand that it is a long-standing tradition to mark the date each year in the Scottish Parliament, so I thank Marie McNair for continuing the tradition and highlighting t...
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I apologise for joining the debate slightly late.I am speaking mainly on behalf of Julie MacDougall, but I have an interest in the matter because both of my grandfathers were miners and died of lung disease, although I did not know either of them, because they died so long ago...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I congratulate Marie McNair on bringing the motion to the chamber for debate and on her consistent championing of the cause.Asbestos was finally completely banned in 1999, the same year that the Parliament was established. Although it might therefore be tempting to associate i...
Pauline Stafford (Bathgate) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for her long-standing commitment to the cause of action on mesothelioma and for bringing this important debate to the chamber ahead of action mesothelioma day 2026.I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate, as I have a close relative in E...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
This is the fifth year that I have managed to secure a debate to mark mesothelioma day. My determination to secure truth and justice for asbestos victims and their families will never wane. I thank those members who have supported my motion and those who are speaking in today’...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Our final item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00343, in the name of Marie McNair, on action mesothelioma day 2026. The debate will be concluded without any question being put.Motion debated,That the Parliament recognises Action Mesothelioma Day 2026, which will be marke...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Unless any member objects, I propose to ask a single question on two Parliamentary Bureau motions.The question is, that motion S7M-00492, on committee membership, and motion S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the Council of Europe, in...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on the Scottish Commission for Public Audit, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament agrees to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body’s proposal to appoint Miles Briggs, Michael Marra, Jenni...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, is: For 89, Against 31, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament recognises the scale and complexity of the current prison...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Well done.The next question is, that motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.4, in the name of Yi-pei Chou Turvey, be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is: For 26, Against 78, Abstentions 15.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, is: For 16, Against 104, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, is: For 26, Against 94, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
I trust you. You do not need to show me the evidence.Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill, is: For 65, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Kate Nevens (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My technology did not work. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.You have started something. I call Kate Nevens.
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Kirsten Oswald) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had difficulty voting. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Calum Kerr (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I do not think that my vote went through. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We come to the vote on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill. Members should cast their votes now.The vote is closed.Calum Kerr has just sneaked in with a point of order.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division. First, we will halt to enable members to enter the voting system.17:13Meeting suspended.17:15On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next item of business is decision time. There are eight questions to be put as a result of today’s business. I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Amanda Bland is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Stephen Kerr will fall. If the amendment in the name ...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The question on those motions will be put at decision time.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The next item of business is consideration of two Parliamentary Bureau motions. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move motions S7M-00492, on committee membership, and S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The Scottish Commission for Public Audit performs an important role in our system of public accountability. It does not examine the spending decisions of Government; instead, it oversees Audit Scotland, scrutinising Audit Scotland’s budget and helping to ensure that the organi...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The next item of business is consideration of motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, on membership of the Scottish Commission for Public Audit.17:10
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
Thank you.
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Despite Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, declaring for me my entry in the register of members’ interests after her statement on non-domestic rates on Tuesday, I failed to do so myself. I feel that it...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
17:10
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
That concludes questions on NHS capital projects.
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
In-depth work is continuing around the revenue-based funding model to enable the three pilot areas that I mentioned in my statement to proceed; that includes the project in Mr Barratt’s constituency. The focus is on a standardised approach so that we can make best use of publi...
David Barratt (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I thank the cabinet secretary for her statement. I will pick up on investment in community health hubs and, specifically, the replacement of Lochgelly health centre. Can the cabinet secretary advise whether a decision will be made on the funding model—for example, the potentia...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I agree with the member that there are always lessons to be learned in every journey travelled. I assure her that, in this instance, lessons will be learned. I am more than happy to meet staff and union representatives.In the interest of expediency and time, I will write to th...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
There are lessons to be learned from this situation, but that will be of little comfort to the staff and patients who are dealing with an old hospital. Right now, it is 30°C in some parts of Monklands hospital, wall trims are held on with duct tape and there are historical iss...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I recognise the importance of investment in facilities such as the new Port Glasgow health centre and of improvements to Inverclyde royal hospital. Planning work on a replacement health centre continues, and I will ensure that local members are kept up to date on that.The deci...
Stuart McMillan (Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
Can the cabinet secretary provide any details about when funding will be in place to replace the Port Glasgow health centre with a new health hub? Can she advise when there will be investment to improve the fabric of Inverclyde royal hospital?
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Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2026

06 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Civil Legal Assistance

A happy new year to you, Presiding Officer, and to colleagues across the chamber.

I am pleased to speak in this debate on the findings and recommendations of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee’s inquiry into civil legal aid assistance in Scotland, and I thank all committee members and organisations involved for their work.

The committee’s report is clear about a central point, which is that rights are meaningful only if people can enforce them. That matters acutely for many people, but I will talk specifically about why it matters for disabled people, whose rights to independent living, dignity and equal participation are too often undermined by gaps in support, inaccessible systems and a lack of practical assistance and support to lead an ordinary—or, indeed, extraordinary—life.

All of us here have responsibilities to create laws and policies that properly resource services, while doing so in ways that protect rights, and to ensure that there are effective routes to redress when rights are breached. That is why the report’s findings on legal aid deserts are so important. The committee is explicit about the consequences of such deserts, where the absence of advice means that people ultimately cannot exercise their legal rights.

For disabled people, that is not just an abstract concern. When someone cannot access specialist advice, they cannot challenge an unlawful decision about, for example, social care, housing, discrimination or benefits. Without such challenge, poor practice becomes entrenched. For disabled people, matters are often complicated, interconnected and deep rooted. They cannot uphold their rights on their own. They need support and advice—not because they do not have the potential or the capacity to do so but because the system is complex and they need help to navigate it, as we all do.

The committee’s encouragement to SLAB and the Law Society to work together to build a far stronger evidence base for demand and supply is therefore absolutely essential. I add that any serious effort to understand unmet need must actively engage disabled people’s organisations and disability rights expertise, including in law centres, and the relevant capacity in universities, so that the evidence base reflects lived reality rather than only what the current system is able to record.

The report is also persuasive on how the current fee structures can distort access to justice. The evidence on block fees illustrates the risk that funding models underpay for complex work and therefore disincentivise practitioners from taking on urgent, trauma-informed or high-effort, complex cases. As I said, disabled people’s cases are often complex because rights are interconnected by nature. If someone does not have adequate social care, accessible housing is sometimes not meaningful or useful to them; if they do not have accessible housing, employability and participation are constrained; and so on and so forth. If someone cannot challenge failure in one part of the system, harm cascades across the rest and complexity builds, so the system must recognise that complexity, rather than pricing it out, if it is to meaningfully deliver for disabled people and other seldom-heard groups.

Eligibility and the means test are equally important in that respect. The committee is right to be concerned that the current thresholds can create barriers to justice and can exclude people who are not, in any real sense, able to afford legal help, as colleagues have highlighted. For many, including disabled people, a fair approach must therefore also grapple with the reality of disability-related costs.

Evidence from various organisations, including Scope, suggests that additional costs in that sense are significant and range widely. The average is £550 a month, but the costs can be as much as £1,000 a month or more. If we assess disposable income without properly accounting for those unavoidable costs, we could create inequality in eligibility decisions and bake it into a system that is there to protect rights. Disability-related expenditure should therefore be excluded. The definition should be appropriately broad, and SLAB’s on-going review work should explicitly address that as a discrete and substantive strand of reform to support access to justice for disabled people. The committee’s discussion of waivers is also relevant here.

On public interest litigation and group proceedings, the report identifies the structural problem that civil legal assistance is generally available only to individuals, which prevents groups and third sector organisations from accessing legal aid collectively, even when injustice is plainly collective. The committee is right to highlight the individualisation of collective injustice, and I welcome the call to revisit regulation 15 more broadly to allow more collective action and reduce the burden that is placed on the individual.

The report sets out a coherent case for reform. We must build capacity, modernise eligibility and enable collective action where injustice is collective and structural. If we are serious about rights—and I believe that we are—we should be serious about the mechanisms that make those rights enforceable, and serious about reform to deliver them.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20208, in the name of Karen Adam, on behalf of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, ...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased that we have the opportunity today to debate the provision of civil legal assistance in Scotland. In the course of our inquiry, the committee wa...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I welcome the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee’s report on civil legal aid. It is a report that highlights the strengths of our system an...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the draft Scottish statutory instrument that was laid towards the end of December. Does the minister feel that that goes as far as is recommended i...
Siobhian Brown SNP
More than 18 months ago, I committed to considering what non-primary legislation we could introduce. That work is being done in consultation with the Scottis...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Throughout the committee’s inquiry, we heard consistent and deeply concerning evidence about the growing difficulty that individuals face in finding a solici...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Tess White Con
I say sorry to the minister, but I will make progress. Administrative requirements were described as “burdensome”, “disproportionate” and “damaging” to SLAB...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Ariane Burgess.
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Inaudible.—broader eligibility, reduced bureaucracy and targeted action to retain and attract legal aid solicitors in remote areas. Will they ensure that—
The Presiding Officer NPA
Ms Burgess, my apologies, I called you a little early. That will give us time to address the audiovisual issues. I should of course have called Katy Clark. ...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. We thank committee members, clerks and all others who c...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Katy Clark Lab
The number of solicitors who are registered to provide legal aid in Scotland has fallen by 12 per cent in just three years. Does the minister still want to ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Yes—a brief one. I appreciate that there are concerns about eligibility, fees and so on, and negotiations are on-going on those issues, but would you acknowl...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Always speak through the chair.
Katy Clark Lab
I am aware of the very recent increases, but, as the minister is aware, the problem is the significant cuts that have been made over many, many years. The 10...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank the member for giving way, because this is a really important debate. One of the big issues that I have seen as a stumbling block to primary legisla...
Katy Clark Lab
I understand that some key stakeholders are not willing to take part in that group. At this point in my speech, I am focused on legal aid rates and the reaso...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You do.
Katy Clark Lab
There is also concern about the fact that few younger solicitors are doing legal aid work. Currently, twice the number of solicitors registered for legal aid...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Access to justice is a fundamental human right. It is not a luxury, and it must never be a privilege that is reserved for those with money, confidence or pro...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Presiding Officer, I apologise to you and to other members for my late arrival in the chamber this afternoon. Suffice it to say that travelling down from Ork...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, I take this opportunity to wish you and everyone in the Parliament a happy and healthy new year. As we know, it will be a busy one for eve...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
A happy new year to you, Presiding Officer, and to colleagues across the chamber. I am pleased to speak in this debate on the findings and recommendations o...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The final speaker in the open debate is Paul McLennan. 15:15
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
I am speaking in this debate as a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, and I thank everyone who contributed to the inquiry, in...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the winding-up speeches. 15:20
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Presiding Officer, I extend, as others have, the wishes of the new year to you and to other members in the chamber. This has been a fascinating debate, and ...
Liam McArthur LD
I thank Martin Whitfield for taking an intervention, and I agree whole-heartedly with the points that he is making. Does he accept that the longer that the p...