Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2026
06 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Civil Legal Assistance
I am aware of the very recent increases, but, as the minister is aware, the problem is the significant cuts that have been made over many, many years. The 10 per cent rise in fees in 2023 effectively meant little in the face of cumulative inflation of 16 per cent at that time. I accept that the situation has improved in some ways in that there have begun to be increases in legal aid rates, but that is against a backdrop of many years of cuts. I am sure that the minister accepts that point.
If the minister has worked to fight for more funding and to ensure that there has been at least some increase, I welcome that, given that, in the past, there were many times when rates were frozen and there was no increase.
Does the minister want to make another intervention?
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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone)
NPA
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Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
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SNP
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SNP
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Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
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Siobhian Brown
SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Tess White
Con
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The Presiding Officer
NPA
I call Ariane Burgess.
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Green
Inaudible.—broader eligibility, reduced bureaucracy and targeted action to retain and attract legal aid solicitors in remote areas. Will they ensure that—
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Ms Burgess, my apologies, I called you a little early. That will give us time to address the audiovisual issues. I should of course have called Katy Clark. ...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. We thank committee members, clerks and all others who c...
Siobhian Brown
SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Katy Clark
Lab
The number of solicitors who are registered to provide legal aid in Scotland has fallen by 12 per cent in just three years. Does the minister still want to ...
Siobhian Brown
SNP
Yes—a brief one. I appreciate that there are concerns about eligibility, fees and so on, and negotiations are on-going on those issues, but would you acknowl...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Always speak through the chair.
Katy Clark
Lab
I am aware of the very recent increases, but, as the minister is aware, the problem is the significant cuts that have been made over many, many years. The 10...
Siobhian Brown
SNP
I thank the member for giving way, because this is a really important debate. One of the big issues that I have seen as a stumbling block to primary legisla...
Katy Clark
Lab
I understand that some key stakeholders are not willing to take part in that group. At this point in my speech, I am focused on legal aid rates and the reaso...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
You do.
Katy Clark
Lab
There is also concern about the fact that few younger solicitors are doing legal aid work. Currently, twice the number of solicitors registered for legal aid...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Green
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Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD)
LD
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Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
SNP
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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
A happy new year to you, Presiding Officer, and to colleagues across the chamber. I am pleased to speak in this debate on the findings and recommendations o...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The final speaker in the open debate is Paul McLennan. 15:15
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP)
SNP
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The Presiding Officer
NPA
We move to the winding-up speeches. 15:20
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
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Liam McArthur
LD
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