Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 11 December 2025
11 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Neurodevelopmental Conditions (Support)
I declare an interest as a practising NHS GP.
I would just note that, when someone gets a private diagnosis, it is no longer shared care, as they will no longer be seeing that private consultant. What we really need is for the diagnosis to be transferred into the NHS for shared care to happen.
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SNP
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Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con)
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Will the member give way?
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Lab
I am very happy to give way to Sandesh Gulhane, but he will have to be brief.
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Lab
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con)
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Daniel Johnson
Lab
Will Brian Whittle take a brief intervention?
Brian Whittle
Con
I will.
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Lab
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Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP)
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Daniel Johnson
Lab
Will Michelle Thomson take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
It would need to be brief, as the member is about to conclude.
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Con
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Daniel Johnson
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Tom Arthur
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