Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 13 June 2024
13 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Service Investment
I thank Mark Griffin for taking an intervention, and I hope that he feels better soon.
According to a briefing that was provided to the newspapers this morning, non-protected areas of spending, which include courts, prisons, local government, jobcentres, the police and immigration services, would be cut under a Labour UK Government. Can Mark Griffin give us a categorical assurance that that will not happen?
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
LD
I can give the cabinet secretary the time back for the intervention.
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
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Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green)
Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Liz Smith
Con
I will do so in a minute. That is an uncomfortable fact, because some people in the Scottish National Party ranks know full well that it cannot continue. If...
Ross Greer
Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
LD
I can give you the time back for the intervention, Liz Smith.
Liz Smith
Con
I definitely do not acknowledge that. If we listen to many people who are running businesses and operating in the economy in Scotland, the last thing that th...
Shona Robison
SNP
Will Liz Smith take an intervention?
Liz Smith
Con
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Shona Robison
SNP
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Liz Smith
Con
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Miles Briggs
Con
It is a broken record.
Liz Smith
Con
It just goes on and on, and, as my colleague has just reminded me, it is a broken record. It will not wash with the public, because it is not correct. Our p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
I call Mark Griffin, who joins us remotely. 15:34
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
At the outset, I apologise to the chamber for not being on the front bench and for participating remotely. I tested positive for Covid this morning, so I am ...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Mark Griffin
Lab
I will take an intervention from Ms Adam.
Karen Adam
SNP
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Mark Griffin
Lab
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Shona Robison
SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Mark Griffin
Lab
I will take an intervention from the cabinet secretary.
Shona Robison
SNP
I thank Mark Griffin for taking an intervention, and I hope that he feels better soon. According to a briefing that was provided to the newspapers this morn...
Mark Griffin
Lab
I do not listen to off-the-record briefings, and I would advise the cabinet secretary not to either. The Labour manifesto has been published and I am sure th...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green)
Green
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