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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
That concludes the debate. I wish members, their staff and everyone else who works on the parliamentary campus a wonderful recess.Meeting closed at 18:10.
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Paul Sweeney makes a very good point, because the issue is wrapped up in our post-industrial legacy. The fact that there are such abandoned factories and that the people who enter them—whether for urban exploration or whatever else—do not understand the risks that they are exp...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
As a member of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, I welcome the news on the proposed legislation, which is very welcome. Indeed, it is something that has been long hoped for.Does the minister share my concern about the fact that the former Cape Marinite factory in ...
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I hope to be able to introduce the bill by the end of the year, but the member will appreciate that parliamentary timescales prevent me from giving a specific date at the moment. She is correct in saying that justice delayed is justice denied. I hope that all members, as well ...
Marie McNair SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I am delighted to hear it. I welcome today’s announcement on the time bar issue, which I know will be well received by asbestos sufferers and campaigners. Does the minister accept that, on this issue, justice delayed is justice denied? Can she tell us how quickly the Governmen...
The Minister for Community Care (Alison Thewliss) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank my colleague Marie McNair for bringing this debate to the chamber, which she has now done for a fifth year. I also thank all members—both those who spoke and those who were not able to speak today—for their presence and thoughtful contributions. As Carol Mochan mention...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I invite the minister to close the debate.17:58
Heather Anderson (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I, too, thank Marie McNair for securing the debate and bringing this important motion to the chamber today.I start by stressing how important it is that we continue to raise awareness of mesothelioma. I do not have a family member who contracted the disease, but I saw a poster...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for bringing this important debate to the chamber and I welcome action mesothelioma day 2026, which will be marked on 3 July.I am pleased, in the years that I have been in Parliament, to have played my part in joining Marie McNair and other members to rais...
Colm Merrick (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to today’s debate, which marks action mesothelioma day 2026. I understand that it is a long-standing tradition to mark the date each year in the Scottish Parliament, so I thank Marie McNair for continuing the tradition and highlighting t...
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I apologise for joining the debate slightly late.I am speaking mainly on behalf of Julie MacDougall, but I have an interest in the matter because both of my grandfathers were miners and died of lung disease, although I did not know either of them, because they died so long ago...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I congratulate Marie McNair on bringing the motion to the chamber for debate and on her consistent championing of the cause.Asbestos was finally completely banned in 1999, the same year that the Parliament was established. Although it might therefore be tempting to associate i...
Pauline Stafford (Bathgate) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for her long-standing commitment to the cause of action on mesothelioma and for bringing this important debate to the chamber ahead of action mesothelioma day 2026.I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate, as I have a close relative in E...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
This is the fifth year that I have managed to secure a debate to mark mesothelioma day. My determination to secure truth and justice for asbestos victims and their families will never wane. I thank those members who have supported my motion and those who are speaking in today’...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Our final item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00343, in the name of Marie McNair, on action mesothelioma day 2026. The debate will be concluded without any question being put.Motion debated,That the Parliament recognises Action Mesothelioma Day 2026, which will be marke...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Unless any member objects, I propose to ask a single question on two Parliamentary Bureau motions.The question is, that motion S7M-00492, on committee membership, and motion S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the Council of Europe, in...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on the Scottish Commission for Public Audit, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament agrees to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body’s proposal to appoint Miles Briggs, Michael Marra, Jenni...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, is: For 89, Against 31, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament recognises the scale and complexity of the current prison...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Well done.The next question is, that motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.4, in the name of Yi-pei Chou Turvey, be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is: For 26, Against 78, Abstentions 15.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, is: For 16, Against 104, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, is: For 26, Against 94, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
I trust you. You do not need to show me the evidence.Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill, is: For 65, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Kate Nevens (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My technology did not work. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.You have started something. I call Kate Nevens.
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Kirsten Oswald) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had difficulty voting. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Calum Kerr (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I do not think that my vote went through. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We come to the vote on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill. Members should cast their votes now.The vote is closed.Calum Kerr has just sneaked in with a point of order.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division. First, we will halt to enable members to enter the voting system.17:13Meeting suspended.17:15On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next item of business is decision time. There are eight questions to be put as a result of today’s business. I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Amanda Bland is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Stephen Kerr will fall. If the amendment in the name ...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The question on those motions will be put at decision time.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The next item of business is consideration of two Parliamentary Bureau motions. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move motions S7M-00492, on committee membership, and S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The Scottish Commission for Public Audit performs an important role in our system of public accountability. It does not examine the spending decisions of Government; instead, it oversees Audit Scotland, scrutinising Audit Scotland’s budget and helping to ensure that the organi...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The next item of business is consideration of motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, on membership of the Scottish Commission for Public Audit.17:10
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
Thank you.
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Despite Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, declaring for me my entry in the register of members’ interests after her statement on non-domestic rates on Tuesday, I failed to do so myself. I feel that it...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
17:10
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
That concludes questions on NHS capital projects.
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
In-depth work is continuing around the revenue-based funding model to enable the three pilot areas that I mentioned in my statement to proceed; that includes the project in Mr Barratt’s constituency. The focus is on a standardised approach so that we can make best use of publi...
David Barratt (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I thank the cabinet secretary for her statement. I will pick up on investment in community health hubs and, specifically, the replacement of Lochgelly health centre. Can the cabinet secretary advise whether a decision will be made on the funding model—for example, the potentia...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I agree with the member that there are always lessons to be learned in every journey travelled. I assure her that, in this instance, lessons will be learned. I am more than happy to meet staff and union representatives.In the interest of expediency and time, I will write to th...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
There are lessons to be learned from this situation, but that will be of little comfort to the staff and patients who are dealing with an old hospital. Right now, it is 30°C in some parts of Monklands hospital, wall trims are held on with duct tape and there are historical iss...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I recognise the importance of investment in facilities such as the new Port Glasgow health centre and of improvements to Inverclyde royal hospital. Planning work on a replacement health centre continues, and I will ensure that local members are kept up to date on that.The deci...
Stuart McMillan (Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
Can the cabinet secretary provide any details about when funding will be in place to replace the Port Glasgow health centre with a new health hub? Can she advise when there will be investment to improve the fabric of Inverclyde royal hospital?
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Meeting of the Parliament 23 February 2023

23 Feb 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Marking One Year of War against Ukraine

Thank you, Presiding Officer. I refer members to my entry in the register of interests.

I also want to speak in solidarity with the people of Ukraine. It is indeed rare that all of us will support a Scottish Government motion without proposing an amendment to it. That is significant, because, as a democratic institution, we do not always agree on everything—let us just put it like that.

On 24 February 2022, Putin’s Russian forces launched an invasion of Ukraine. There are not words to describe the shock, anger and deep sadness as Ukrainians have suffered, and are suffering, the consequences of a cruel, unjustifiable attack, which the whole world witnessed. I put on record my welcome to the Ukrainian consul who has been able to join us in Parliament during this debate.

As Sir Keir Starmer said on his recent visit to Kyiv, the UK’s support for Ukraine is not party political, and a Labour Government would continue support for Ukraine.

It is true to say that Russia could end this war today by withdrawing its troops. Until that happens, we and Ukraine’s other democratic allies must continue to support Ukraine as it defends its sovereign territory. That is absolutely crucial.

This is not the only discussion of Ukraine that we have had in Parliament this week; there have been several. We had the incredibly emotional Postcards from Ukraine celebration, when it was heartening to hear the choir. It is difficult to pass on the emotion of the event. We had a round-table meeting on the risks and mitigation of human trafficking of Ukrainian refugees. We have not discussed that issue in today’s debate, but we need to acknowledge that vulnerable people who escape the horrors of war potentially face the risks of trafficking, exploitation and abuse. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has spoken about the need to support women and children, as they constitute the overwhelming majority of those who have fled Ukraine for neighbouring countries. They are vulnerable people who have escaped the horrors of war and now face the risk of trafficking, exploitation and abuse.

Like other colleagues have said, it is very rare that I stand up to agree with everything that Neil Gray says, so this is probably a first and it may be a last; I may also be agreeing with Donald Cameron for possibly the first and the last time. That is in line with the principle of standing in solidarity. The war in Ukraine has enabled us to show our compassion and humanity as an international community.

In Scotland, I am proud of the people who have become hosts to Ukrainians, the people who have volunteered for or donated to charities, the organisations that are supporting people in Ukraine, and our local authorities. Last year, representatives from the magnificent medicines to Ukraine campaign briefed MSPs. Their work is impressive. They continue the sourcing of specialist medicines, the logistical work and the safe delivery of those medicines to where they are most needed by Ukrainians who are experiencing health issues as a result of Putin’s invasion.

I also thank the Disasters Emergency Committee and all those across the UK who have given generous donations to its fantastic work delivering support to people on the front line.

I also welcome the minister’s announcement of additional funding. This is an unfolding crisis, and Scotland has a key role to play.

There are still thousands of people who hold a visa and may still come to Scotland, and there are people arriving from Ukraine every day.

We are a democracy, so I am allowed to ask our Government to go a bit further, to go a bit faster and to do more. That is one of the privileges of being in an elected democracy. You can say what you think without consequence. You do not have to worry about being locked up or about a journalist who reports you being put into jail, so let me use my voice today. There is more that we could be doing.

When we had a presentation from the Ukrainian consul at the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee the other week, we got some incredibly helpful feedback from the front line in Scotland about the things that we could be doing better, in particular providing more support for Ukrainian displaced people with English language classes and childcare. The presentation provoked us to think about the challenges and about the vulnerability that people who have come from Ukraine feel, particularly people who now have jobs and have children in our schools but are potentially not in long-term permanent accommodation, even if it is for three years. Therefore, there is more that we could be doing to support our local authorities and the third sector organisations that have really stepped up to the plate in recent months. That is something that I think we can be utterly proud of, but I would like us to do more.

We need more long-term and, in particular, medium-term planning to support Ukrainians who have come to Scotland. Although I very much welcome the 750 available houses that the minister referred to, I would like to see all of that £50 million fund spent. I would like to see it spent across Scotland and, as an MSP for Lothian, where we have a housing crisis on top of a housing crisis, I am very keen to see that investment coming forward as soon as possible. There are still people living in temporary accommodation and we need to do much more to support them. It is an issue not just for my area of Edinburgh and the Lothians, but across Scotland. I know from talking to colleagues in Glasgow that they are quite nervous about what happens next for people leaving the cruise ship.

There is so much more that we can do. We need to make sure that we step up to the mark, because Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine has left key areas of infrastructure in Ukraine absolutely decimated, so we know that those Ukrainians who have come to Scotland will need our support for the long run. We need to think, at a UK and Scottish level, about how we can plan and build long-term commercial links with Ukraine to ensure that reconstruction efforts are successful and sustainable. There will be so much more that we can do, so our warm welcome has to be backed up with actions.

As I said at the start of my contribution, we are here to stand together in solidarity and our focus has to be clear—we are here because of Putin’s actions. Yesterday, we had another important debate, on the need for a special tribunal to hold Putin, and those who have launched aggression on the people of Ukraine, to account for the estimated 65,000 registered incidents of war crimes. It was an emotional debate and an important one.

We need to continue to support Ukrainians and defend Ukraine’s identity and integrity. That means stepping up and making sure that sanctions are effectively implemented and that we send a clear message of solidarity and support. I want our UK and Scottish Governments to do more, to spend more, to give that practical daily support to Ukrainians who have come here.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Before we move on to the next item of business, a debate marking one year of war against Ukraine, I am sure that colleagues will wish to join me in welcoming...
The Minister for Culture, Europe and International Development and Minister with special responsibility for Refugees from Ukraine (Neil Gray) SNP
I join you, Presiding Officer, in welcoming my friend Andrii Kuslii to the public gallery. It is a pleasure to have him here to hear the Parliament express i...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the minister for giving way, and I congratulate the Scottish Government on bringing so many Ukrainians here. One slight problem with that is...
Neil Gray SNP
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for his question and pay tribute to him for his involvement and steadfast support for the people of Ukraine in Scotland. We are lo...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I associate the members on the Conservative benches with the welcome to the consul of Ukraine. On a visit a few months ago to the MS Victoria ship, which is...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Does Mr Cameron agree that one of the issues that faces Ukraine is the fact that it is being given enough weapons to hold off the Russians, but not enough to...
Donald Cameron Con
I agree with the broad thrust of Kenneth Gibson’s comments and I note what the UK Government, among other Governments across the world, has done in that rega...
Neil Gray SNP
I thank Donald Cameron for his remarks around our support and the UK Government’s support for the people of Ukraine. We are working with the British Red Cros...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Donald Cameron, I can give you the time back.
Donald Cameron Con
Thank you. I am grateful to the minister for clarifying that. The significant aid contributions of both Governments to help those who remain in Ukraine are ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Sarah Boyack. You have around six minutes, Ms Boyack. 15:25
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I refer members to my entry in the register of interests. I also want to speak in solidarity with the people of Ukraine. It is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude, Ms Boyack.
Sarah Boyack Lab
Although we do not agree on many things in this Parliament, let us agree on the motion and let us all wish for a speedy and peaceful resolution to the war th...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I rise to offer the full-throated support of Scottish Liberal Democrats for the Government’s motion, and I offer our welcome and thanks to the consul of Ukra...
Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP) SNP
I, too, pay tribute to all those who have been injured or died in the year since the illegal Russian invasion of sovereign Ukraine, and I stand in solidarity...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
In my lifetime, I did not expect to see a war in Europe like the one that we have seen in Ukraine; I do not think that any of us did. A year ago, Russia stu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I encourage those in the public gallery to resist the temptation to participate, including by applauding. 15:52
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
We contribute to this debate as an act of solidarity with the people of Ukraine. That includes those living on the war front and the millions displaced abroa...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by expressing my sincere condolences to, and solidarity with, the families of all those who have died or have been gravely injured in this senseless ...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
No one in the chamber wanted to mark this milestone. It is one year since Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukrainian sovereignty. Although that anniversary is tes...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Ms Adamson. I think that we can suspend the rule on props just this once. I call Meghan Gallacher, to be followed by Ross Greer. You have around ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Tomorrow marks a very sombre occasion. It is exactly one year since the invasion of Ukraine began. The twenty-fourth of February 2022 has become a date that ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
When we came together for an emergency debate a year ago tomorrow, a 40-mile-long convoy of Russian troops had crossed the Belarusian border and was headed f...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is difficult to comprehend that a year has passed since Russia launched its illegal war of aggression in Ukraine. We will all remember that day and our se...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
Russia’s unprovoked and illegal war on Ukraine seemed to be unthinkable just over a year ago. Sabre rattling and rhetoric from Putin has been turned into a b...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We move to closing speeches, and I call Foysol Choudhury to wind up the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. 16:34
Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
As other members have done, I express a warm welcome to the Ukrainian consul, who joins us in Parliament. Today, the Parliament has come together to stand i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Sharon Dowey to wind up on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 16:39
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I also welcome the Ukrainian consul to the chamber. I am pleased to bring the debate to a close on behalf of the Scottish Conse...