Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 November 2021
03 Nov 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Legal Aid Solicitors (Action)
I acknowledge that some progress has been made since 2019, but does the minister accept that we have reached a crisis point in the legal aid profession? We are losing experienced lawyers from the profession, and unfortunately the situation will be exacerbated by the huge backlog in cases, long hours, poor pay and a group of lawyers who feel badly let down and badly treated compared to other Government lawyers. Does the minister agree that there is a desperate need to resolve the situation once and for all?
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing)
SNP
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The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Regan)
SNP
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Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
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Ash Regan
SNP
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Ash Regan
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
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Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
SNP
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Ash Regan
SNP
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Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
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Ash Regan
SNP
Russell Findlay has asked a very fair question. My officials are working with all our justice partners to ensure that people who need legal advice can receiv...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
SNP
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Ash Regan
SNP
Officials have been in close contact with our justice partners. All steps are being taken to provide advice to people who require it. A combination of things...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I acknowledge that some progress has been made since 2019, but does the minister accept that we have reached a crisis point in the legal aid profession? We a...
Ash Regan
SNP
There is a need to resolve the situation, which we do not want to have going forward. As I said in my response to the member’s colleague, I have spent some c...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome the minister’s statement and I share her worry for those left unrepresented. The minister probably alluded to this in her answer to Pauline McNeill...
Ash Regan
SNP
In our programme for government, we committed to engage with legal professionals and other stakeholders to review the legal aid system and introduce a legal ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD)
LD
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Ash Regan
SNP
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
SNP
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Ash Regan
SNP
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Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con)
Con
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Ash Regan
SNP
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green)
Green
That defendants could be in a situation in which they are without representation is appalling. A foundation of our justice system must be the right to repres...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Please may we have a question, Ms Chapman? We are nearly out of time.
Maggie Chapman
Green
Yes, Presiding Officer. The minister said that she and her officials would do everything possible to reduce the risk of defendants appearing without represe...
Ash Regan
SNP
I can. We have been working to ensure that those who need that legal assistance will receive it. The courts will be supported by a number of mitigations. Sol...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
SNP
As well as the legal reform bill, what other steps are being taken to ensure the viability of legal aid in the long term?
Ash Regan
SNP
Secondary legislation was made in the summer in order to work with the profession on that. Regarding the long term, I have already made commitments in the ch...