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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
That concludes the debate. I wish members, their staff and everyone else who works on the parliamentary campus a wonderful recess.Meeting closed at 18:10.
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Paul Sweeney makes a very good point, because the issue is wrapped up in our post-industrial legacy. The fact that there are such abandoned factories and that the people who enter them—whether for urban exploration or whatever else—do not understand the risks that they are exp...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
As a member of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, I welcome the news on the proposed legislation, which is very welcome. Indeed, it is something that has been long hoped for.Does the minister share my concern about the fact that the former Cape Marinite factory in ...
Alison Thewliss SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I hope to be able to introduce the bill by the end of the year, but the member will appreciate that parliamentary timescales prevent me from giving a specific date at the moment. She is correct in saying that justice delayed is justice denied. I hope that all members, as well ...
Marie McNair SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I am delighted to hear it. I welcome today’s announcement on the time bar issue, which I know will be well received by asbestos sufferers and campaigners. Does the minister accept that, on this issue, justice delayed is justice denied? Can she tell us how quickly the Governmen...
The Minister for Community Care (Alison Thewliss) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank my colleague Marie McNair for bringing this debate to the chamber, which she has now done for a fifth year. I also thank all members—both those who spoke and those who were not able to speak today—for their presence and thoughtful contributions. As Carol Mochan mention...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I invite the minister to close the debate.17:58
Heather Anderson (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I, too, thank Marie McNair for securing the debate and bringing this important motion to the chamber today.I start by stressing how important it is that we continue to raise awareness of mesothelioma. I do not have a family member who contracted the disease, but I saw a poster...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for bringing this important debate to the chamber and I welcome action mesothelioma day 2026, which will be marked on 3 July.I am pleased, in the years that I have been in Parliament, to have played my part in joining Marie McNair and other members to rais...
Colm Merrick (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to today’s debate, which marks action mesothelioma day 2026. I understand that it is a long-standing tradition to mark the date each year in the Scottish Parliament, so I thank Marie McNair for continuing the tradition and highlighting t...
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I apologise for joining the debate slightly late.I am speaking mainly on behalf of Julie MacDougall, but I have an interest in the matter because both of my grandfathers were miners and died of lung disease, although I did not know either of them, because they died so long ago...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I congratulate Marie McNair on bringing the motion to the chamber for debate and on her consistent championing of the cause.Asbestos was finally completely banned in 1999, the same year that the Parliament was established. Although it might therefore be tempting to associate i...
Pauline Stafford (Bathgate) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
I thank Marie McNair for her long-standing commitment to the cause of action on mesothelioma and for bringing this important debate to the chamber ahead of action mesothelioma day 2026.I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate, as I have a close relative in E...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
This is the fifth year that I have managed to secure a debate to mark mesothelioma day. My determination to secure truth and justice for asbestos victims and their families will never wane. I thank those members who have supported my motion and those who are speaking in today’...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Action Mesothelioma Day 2026
Our final item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00343, in the name of Marie McNair, on action mesothelioma day 2026. The debate will be concluded without any question being put.Motion debated,That the Parliament recognises Action Mesothelioma Day 2026, which will be marke...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Unless any member objects, I propose to ask a single question on two Parliamentary Bureau motions.The question is, that motion S7M-00492, on committee membership, and motion S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the Council of Europe, in...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on the Scottish Commission for Public Audit, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament agrees to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body’s proposal to appoint Miles Briggs, Michael Marra, Jenni...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, is: For 89, Against 31, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament recognises the scale and complexity of the current prison...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Well done.The next question is, that motion S7M-00469, in the name of Neil Gray, on achieving a sustainable prison population, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.4, in the name of Yi-pei Chou Turvey, be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is: For 26, Against 78, Abstentions 15.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.5, in the name of Stephen Kerr, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, is: For 16, Against 104, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.3, in the name of Maggie Chapman, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, is: For 26, Against 94, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
I trust you. You do not need to show me the evidence.Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00469.1, in the name of Amanda Bland, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill, is: For 65, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Kate Nevens (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My technology did not work. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.You have started something. I call Kate Nevens.
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Kirsten Oswald) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had difficulty voting. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Thank you. Your vote is recorded.
Calum Kerr (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I do not think that my vote went through. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We come to the vote on amendment S7M-00469.2, in the name of Pauline McNeill. Members should cast their votes now.The vote is closed.Calum Kerr has just sneaked in with a point of order.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division. First, we will halt to enable members to enter the voting system.17:13Meeting suspended.17:15On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next item of business is decision time. There are eight questions to be put as a result of today’s business. I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Amanda Bland is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Stephen Kerr will fall. If the amendment in the name ...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The question on those motions will be put at decision time.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
The next item of business is consideration of two Parliamentary Bureau motions. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move motions S7M-00492, on committee membership, and S7M-00505, on membership of the Congress of Local and Regional Authorities of the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motions
17:12
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The Scottish Commission for Public Audit performs an important role in our system of public accountability. It does not examine the spending decisions of Government; instead, it oversees Audit Scotland, scrutinising Audit Scotland’s budget and helping to ensure that the organi...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Scottish Commission for Public Audit
The next item of business is consideration of motion S7M-00455, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, on membership of the Scottish Commission for Public Audit.17:10
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
Thank you.
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Despite Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, declaring for me my entry in the register of members’ interests after her statement on non-domestic rates on Tuesday, I failed to do so myself. I feel that it...
Speaker unknown Chamber
25 Jun 2026
Point of Order
17:10
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
That concludes questions on NHS capital projects.
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
In-depth work is continuing around the revenue-based funding model to enable the three pilot areas that I mentioned in my statement to proceed; that includes the project in Mr Barratt’s constituency. The focus is on a standardised approach so that we can make best use of publi...
David Barratt (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I thank the cabinet secretary for her statement. I will pick up on investment in community health hubs and, specifically, the replacement of Lochgelly health centre. Can the cabinet secretary advise whether a decision will be made on the funding model—for example, the potentia...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I agree with the member that there are always lessons to be learned in every journey travelled. I assure her that, in this instance, lessons will be learned. I am more than happy to meet staff and union representatives.In the interest of expediency and time, I will write to th...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
There are lessons to be learned from this situation, but that will be of little comfort to the staff and patients who are dealing with an old hospital. Right now, it is 30°C in some parts of Monklands hospital, wall trims are held on with duct tape and there are historical iss...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
I recognise the importance of investment in facilities such as the new Port Glasgow health centre and of improvements to Inverclyde royal hospital. Planning work on a replacement health centre continues, and I will ensure that local members are kept up to date on that.The deci...
Stuart McMillan (Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2026
National Health Service Capital Projects
Can the cabinet secretary provide any details about when funding will be in place to replace the Port Glasgow health centre with a new health hub? Can she advise when there will be investment to improve the fabric of Inverclyde royal hospital?
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Meeting of the Parliament 24 September 2019

24 Sep 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Common Frameworks

The decision of voters in the 2016 referendum to leave the European Union has caused political shock waves, anger and division, along with confusion and uncertainty. As this debate takes place, and following the UK Supreme Court’s historic judgment today, there is no obvious sign of the political confusion coming to an end. Many of us do not want the UK to leave the EU—and it is still possible that we will not—but it would be remiss of the Scottish Parliament not to plan for what might happen should the UK leave the EU.

I commend the Finance and Constitution Committee’s report on common frameworks, which is timely and relevant, and reflects the usual high professionalism of our committee clerks and convener and the insightful contributions that we received from our first-class witnesses.

At first sight, the topic may appear to be dry and anodyne—the sort of issue that excites only anoraks—but we must stop for a moment to think about what would be involved if the UK left the EU. A large swathe of powers that are currently held by the EU would be repatriated and would naturally fall within the competence of the UK Government and Parliament. Equally, a large number of powers where EU law and devolved law overlap would pass by default to the devolved institutions. As members have said, given the number of areas in which UK common frameworks would be needed, it is clear that we need a robust and clearly understood protocol for ensuring that those frameworks will be in place.

It would be unacceptable for the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament not to play a full and equal part in determining matters that have a devolved competence or implication. That is why it is right for the committee to continue to robustly defend the rights of the Scottish Parliament.

As Murdo Fraser said, it is generally accepted that there are issues—for example, food labelling—that normally fall within a devolved competence that will, after Brexit, require some UK-wide alignment and in respect of which it makes no sense for a Scottish policy framework to be in outright conflict with the policy in the rest of the UK. I know that the Scottish Government has recognised that since 2016. Like Alex Rowley, I agree with the Scottish Government that that should be a matter for negotiation and agreement, not imposition.

I welcome any progress that has been made to date, but I remain of the view that the joint ministerial committee is not fit for purpose. Something entirely new is needed. Members have mentioned the Welsh Labour Government’s proposals, which need serious consideration. We need a more robust process in which respect is central. We need something that is more transparent in its operation. That is why the committee has rightly called for the current review of intergovernmental relations to be taken forward as a matter of urgency.

However, there has to be a note of caution. This is not about giving the Scottish Government a blank cheque. The Scottish Parliament has to be given its place, and stakeholders must have a role in contributing to and scrutinising common frameworks. I welcome what the minister said about the progress that is being made in that area, but recent experience suggests that the Scottish Parliament and stakeholders need to be vigilant. We need only look at some of the powers that the Scottish ministers have sought to afford themselves in the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Legal Continuity) (Scotland) Bill and the Referendums (Scotland) Bill, for example. Transparency is required from the UK Government in its dealings with the Scottish Government, but there must also be transparency from the Scottish Government in its dealings with the Scottish Parliament and stakeholders.

It is clear that there needs to be transparency, openness and respect from top to bottom in the whole process. Common frameworks must be arrived at through agreement. We cannot have the UK Government usurping devolved powers or the Scottish Government signing off agreements with the UK without the consent of the Scottish Parliament and without engagement with our stakeholders.

There are worrying signs from the new UK Tory Government that it is prepared to play fast and loose with the law and conventions. Sharp practice needs to be stripped out of any approach to common frameworks.

Change is needed. We need to change the joint ministerial committee process, and we need to change attitudes and practice. There is a danger that, if we get it wrong, we could strengthen ministerial powers at the UK Government or Scottish Government level at the expense of parliamentary scrutiny. There is too much at stake for us to get it wrong, particularly in such troubled and unsettling times.

I again commend the committee’s report.

16:13  

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Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. Speeches should be of five minutes, unless individual members have had previous agreement from the Presiding Officer to have a lo...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
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Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Jenny Gilruth (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) SNP
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We move to the closing speeches. 16:39
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Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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