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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
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Everyone has now voted. Once again, I ask scrutineers and candidates to please go to the back of the chamber. The votes will be counted for the final time.In the final round of voting to elect a second Deputy Presiding Officer, the number of votes that were cast for each candi...
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14 May 2026
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I declare that the election for the second Deputy Presiding Officer is now open. The voting procedures are the same as before.Members voted by secret ballot.The Presiding Officer:Voting in this round of the Deputy Presiding Officer election is closed. I invite the scrutineers,...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
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Voting for this round of the Deputy Presiding Officer election is now closed. I invite scrutineers to proceed to the back of the chamber for the count. Again, candidates may also observe the count.Colleagues, you will be delighted to know that we have a result. In this round o...
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14 May 2026
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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
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Good afternoon, everyone. I am glad that you are all with us once more. This will be the last voting session of the afternoon, you will be glad to know—before you can all depart the scene.I have received five valid nominations for the position of Deputy Presiding Officer, and ...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
The first meeting of the seventh session of the Parliament is now resumed. I have received five valid nominations for the position of Deputy Presiding Officer. I shall now announce the nominees and ask all candidates, as their names are announced, to make themselves known to t...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
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Okay, folks. I have just been given some instructions about what will happen next. However, before that, I want to thank every member who has participated in this voting process. My belated congratulations to them if I have not already spoken to them about winning their own el...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
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Voting in the third round of the election of the Presiding Officer is closed. I invite any scrutineers appointed by the candidates to go to the back of the chamber to observe the counting of ballot papers. Candidates may also observe the count.In this round of voting in the el...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
This voting period is now open, using the same voting procedure as before.Members voted by secret ballot.
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Voting in this round of the Presiding Officer election is closed. I invite the scrutineers to proceed to the back of the chamber for the counting of votes. Again, candidates may also observe the count.In the second round of voting in the election of the Presiding Officer, the ...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Voting in the first round of the election of the Presiding Officer is closed. I now invite any scrutineers appointed by the candidates to go to the back of the chamber to observe the counting of ballot papers. Candidates may also observe the count.In the first round of voting ...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
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As previously announced, I have received four valid nominations. In alphabetical order, the nominees are: Kenneth Gibson, Clare Haughey, Liam McArthur and Stuart McMillan.The election shall proceed in accordance with rule 11.9 of standing orders. If no member receives an overa...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
The first meeting of the seventh session of the Parliament is resumed. I have received four valid nominations for the position of Presiding Officer. I shall now announce the nominations and ask all candidates, as their names are announced, to make themselves known to the chamb...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
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I wish to inform members that nominations for the position of Presiding Officer will open at 12.30 pm. Nomination forms can be collected from the parliamentary business team, which is situated in T1.03. Completed nomination forms should be returned to the parliamentary busines...
Kate Campbell (Edinburgh Eastern, Musselburgh and Tranent) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My first allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Kate Rosa Campbell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Stephen Gethins (Dundee City East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Stephen Patrick Gethins, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Jenny Young (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Jenny Young, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, David Herd Torrance, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Maree Todd (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Maree Todd, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.Tha mise Maree Todd, gu sòlaimte is fìrinneach a’ cur an cèill agus ag innse gum bi mi d...
Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Alison Thewliss, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.Tha mise Alison Thewliss, gu sòlaimte is fìrinneach a’ cur an cèill agus ag innse g...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Paul John Sweeney, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Collette Stevenson (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Collette Stevenson, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Pauline Stafford (Bathgate) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I pledge my allegiance to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Pauline Stafford, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Shirley-Anne Somerville (Dunfermline) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Shirley-Anne Somerville, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
David Smith (West Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, David Haydn Smith, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Alyn Edward Smith, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Lorna Slater (Edinburgh Central) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
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My first allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Lorna Jane Slater, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Mark Simpson (North East Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Mark Simpson, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Graham Simpson, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Kim Schmulian (Glasgow) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Kim Schmulian, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Katherine Sangster (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Katherine Blackstock Sangster, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
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In my heart, my allegiance is to the people of Scotland.I, Mark Ruskell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Angela Ross (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Angela Ross, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Emma Roddick (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I make this affirmation under protest in order to sit in this Parliament, where my allegiance will be to the people of Inverness and Nairn.I, Emma Roddick, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, William Cowan Rennie, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Kirsten Oswald (Eastwood) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Kirsten Frances Oswald, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Kate Nevens (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I make this affirmation to the sovereign people of Scotland and pledge that, in all my actions, the interests of the Scottish people shall be paramount over and above those of the monarchy.I, Kate Nevens, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be fait...
Laura Moodie (South Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My affirmation is to the sovereign people of Scotland, whose interests I will always serve before those of the monarchy.I, Laura Moodie, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
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I believe that the people of this country should be citizens, not subjects, and my first allegiance is to them.I, Carol Ann Mochan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and ...
Laura Mitchell (Moray) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Laura Mitchell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.I, Laura Mitchell, gie my depone, solemnly and sincerely, aat I wull be faithful and...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Jenni Minto, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Jack Middleton (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I declare that my first loyalty will always be to the people of Scotland.I, Jack Middleton, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Colm Merrick (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Colm Merrick, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Lloyd Alexander Melville, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Pauline Mary McNeill, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Marie Alexandra McNair, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Stuart McMillan (Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Stuart McMillan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Paul McLennan (East Lothian Coast and Lammermuirs) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Paul Stewart McLennan, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Easterhouse and Springburn) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Ivan McKee, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Cara McKee (West Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Cara McKee, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Helen McDade, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Liam Scott McArthur, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Màiri McAllan (Clydesdale) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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I, Màiri Louise McAllan, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Duncan Massey (North East Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Duncan Massey, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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My allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Gillian Anne Martin, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Michael Marra, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Q Manivannan (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I make the affirmation for the people of Scotland and their care, my bonnie, bonnie home.I, Q Manivannan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh North Eastern and Leith) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
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14 May 2026
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Committee

Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee 26 June 2019

26 Jun 2019 · S5 · Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee
Item of business
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV
This group is a package of amendments that seek to introduce the concept of keeper liability in relation to charges for parking on private land. I appreciate that it is quite a legally complex area and that the committee has not previously taken evidence on the matter. Accordingly, if members will bear with me, I will set out some of the background to the issue and put the amendments in context. I have a long-term interest in trying to improve the regulation of private car parks in Scotland. It is driven by my constituency mailbag, in that I have been contacted by hundreds of constituents who have been hit with what they believe are unfair penalty charges from unscrupulous private car park companies. Many of those charges originated at a particular car park in the centre of Perth, but since I have raised the issue, I have been contacted by people from right across Scotland who have faced similar difficulties. I have had experience, as I am sure have other members, of people coming to me about penalty notices not being fairly issued. They have been issued because people have simply overstayed their parking by five minutes or less; because someone has correctly paid for their parking but inadvertently entered the wrong digit into a parking pay machine; or because the system for paying has been unduly complex and confusing. In some cases, the penalty charges have been extortionate, with a basic charge of £60 or £80 rising to £160. Often, those charges are then passed on to debt collectors and individuals are bombarded with threatening letters that indicate that court proceedings will be taken if they do not pay up. For many people, particularly the vulnerable or elderly, the whole situation can be very distressing and they end up paying those charges, even though they might not be properly due. My research has led me to understand that there is no specific legislation in Scotland dealing with the regulation of parking on private land and that it is covered at present by the general law of contract. That is a situation where Scotland has fallen behind other parts of the United Kingdom. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, which governs the situation in England, introduced an independent appeals system known as parking on private land appeals, or POPLA. It means that those who are hit with a penalty charge have recourse to an independent appeals system. That has never applied in Scotland and we have a situation here whereby a penalty notice can be challenged only by going to the company that issued it in the first place, which is clearly a very unsatisfactory situation. In addition to introducing an independent appeals system, the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 introduced keeper liability as part of a balanced package of reform. My interest in the subject led me to introduce in December 2017 a member’s bill proposal for regulation of privately operated car parking in Scotland. I proposed that the bill would cover five issues that I believed were necessary for reform: first, legislating for a maximum charge that could be recovered as a penalty for breaching the rules of parking on private land; secondly, introducing regulation for uniform signage to avoid the present confusing situation; thirdly, regulation for the appearance of penalty charge notices to make it clear that they are civil payments and to differentiate them from local authority-issued parking tickets; fourthly, the introduction of an independent appeals system in Scotland so that we mirror the situation in England and Wales; and, fifthly, the introduction of keeper liability in Scotland. I ran a consultation on the proposed bill and received 136 responses, including from industry groups, consumer rights organisations and the general public. There was overwhelming support in principle for better regulation, with 93 per cent of those responding supporting it and only 4 per cent opposing it. I subsequently had very positive engagement around those issues with the former transport minister, Humza Yousaf, and the current cabinet secretary, Michael Matheson. The Scottish Government has always accepted the need for reform in the area concerned. While I was carrying on that work, Sir Greg Knight, who is a Westminster MP, introduced a private member’s bill—the Parking (Code of Practice) Bill—that had cross-party and Government support and is now an act. Sir Greg’s act introduces for the first time a statutory code of practice for car park operators, which will be rigorously policed. The act ties compliance with the code to access to Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency records. At present, a car parking company can pursue car owners only if it can identify them. To do that, it must have access to the DVLA database. In the past, the DVLA was happy essentially to sell that information to anyone with a genuine interest but, in the future, only companies that comply with a statutory code of practice will be able to access the records. Without that access, a company’s penalty notices will in effect be unenforceable. Last year, this Parliament agreed to a legislative consent motion to ensure that the act applies in Scotland as well as south of the border. That deals with the first four points that I consulted on, as it will bring in an independent appeals system and address the other issues. That leaves only keeper liability outstanding, which needs to be legislated for separately. I discussed the matter with the Scottish Government and we agreed that the Transport (Scotland) Bill would be an appropriate legislative vehicle for bringing in the reforms. Having set out the background, I turn to the amendments. Keeper liability will make the registered keeper of a vehicle liable in the first instance for paying reasonable penalty charges for parking on private land. At present, under the general law of contract, a vehicle’s driver is deemed to be liable for any charges that arise when parking on private land, because the car’s driver enters into a contract with the landowner or car park operator. That leads to an obvious difficulty with enforcement, as the landowner or car park operator has to prove who the vehicle’s driver was, which in practice can be extremely difficult. Keeper liability allows penalty charges to be pursued against the registered keeper in the first instance. Alternatively, to avoid liability, the registered keeper can identify who the driver was, and the driver can then be pursued. Keeper liability already exists as a concept in Scots law for those who park on public land. Anyone who parks on a public street and receives a parking ticket will find that it is addressed to the registered keeper. The concept also exists in relation to the likes of speeding offences—someone who is caught by a fixed speed camera receives a notice that is addressed to the registered keeper; if they were not the vehicle’s driver at the time, they can pass responsibility on to that person. That issue has been at the heart of high-profile court cases in recent times. Why should we support keeper liability in today’s context? It is important to view it in the context of the wider reforms that I described. As part of a package of law reforms, it is intended to bring in a fair balance between the car driver’s rights and the legitimate rights of a landowner or car park company to recover costs for breach of contract. I understand from the Scottish Government—I have no doubt that the cabinet secretary will confirm this in due course—that the introduction of keeper liability is intended to be tied to the date of introduction of the new statutory code of practice, which deals with the other concerns that I identified. I would certainly not support keeper liability as a standalone measure; it needs to be seen in the wider context. In the consultation that I ran as part of my member’s bill proposal, 35 per cent of respondents were in favour of keeper liability, 33 per cent were opposed, 15 per cent were neutral and 16 per cent were unsure. The high percentage of neutral or unsure respondents reflects the fact that the concept is quite difficult to understand. Nevertheless, a small majority were more in favour than against. Only about 25 per cent of penalty charges for parking on private land in Scotland are being paid. There is a high level of uncertainty about where the law stands, and there is an urban myth, which is untrue, that such charges are not enforceable in law. Such uncertainty is not good for anyone. Bodies such as Citizens Advice Scotland have done excellent campaigning work on the subject, and everyone agrees that we need greater certainty. The issue does not concern only commercial car parks. Many businesses and private individuals have a legitimate interest in protecting their car parking spaces. For example, at present, owners of flats in city centre developments with allocated parking spaces find it impossible in a practical sense to enforce their rights over their parking spaces without keeper liability. Their parking spaces are filled up by random members of the public coming in to get free parking rather than paying for it. That means that the people who have paid for parking spaces cannot actually use them. The same might apply to a shop with allocated customer parking or a business that has parking attached for its staff. Keeper liability ensures that these rights, which already exist in law, are much more easily enforced. 09:15 I thank the Scottish Government for all its support in drafting the amendments and for its co-operation. Amendments 268A and 319, in the name of Pauline McNeill, seek to amend my amendments. As far as I can determine, they seek to ensure that any enforcement of notices can be done only by a public body. I cannot see how such an arrangement would work in practice. The enforcement of notices for parking on private land is a civil matter between the landowner or their agent on the one hand, and the driver or keeper of the vehicle on the other. There is no locus for any public body to become involved, and no public body has an interest in the enforcement of the notices. Moreover, I cannot see what public body or bodies would get involved in trying to resolve these matters. The Scottish Government has no interest in spending taxpayers’ money on getting involved in resolving disputes between commercial companies and private individuals, nor have local authorities any interest in getting involved. There are simply no public bodies or agencies that have the capacity to take on such work. I fear that Pauline McNeill’s amendments, although they may be well intentioned, are essentially wrecking amendments that drive a coach and horses through the carefully balanced package of reform that I have been trying to take forward with the help of the Scottish Government. I therefore urge Pauline McNeill to withdraw her amendments. I am happy to move amendment 260.

In the same item of business

The Convener Con
Item 3 is the continuation of our consideration of stage 2 amendments to the Transport (Scotland) Bill. I welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Infra...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Excuse me, I do not think that I have been here as a committee substitute before, have I?
The Convener Con
You have indeed.
Christine Grahame SNP
That is all right; I do not have to declare any interests.
The Convener Con
We remember you, even if you do not remember us. Laughter.
Christine Grahame SNP
I will take that in the way in which it was intended.
The Convener Con
You can make a declaration, if you want to do so. I will explain the procedure briefly for anyone who is watching. There will be one debate on each group of...
The Convener Con
The first group of amendments is on the recovery of unpaid parking charges. Amendment 260, in the name of Murdo Fraser, is grouped with amendments 261 to 268...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
This group is a package of amendments that seek to introduce the concept of keeper liability in relation to charges for parking on private land. I appreciate...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Amendment 268A would ensure that only someone who is employed by a public body could issue a parking enforcement notice, and that private companies could not...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Pauline McNeill Lab
Yeah—she said with grace. Laughter.
The Convener Con
That did not sound very excited.
Pauline McNeill Lab
I know from 15 years of experience what taking an intervention from Stewart Stevenson might lead to. Laughter.
The Convener Con
I am sure that he is going to come in with some pearl of wisdom.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
It is not a pearl of wisdom; it is a genuine question. In essence, Pauline McNeill proposes that only public agents could recover what are private debts. The...
Pauline McNeill Lab
That is a fair question. I emphasise that amendment 268A is a probing amendment. I suggest that there should be some public oversight of the private industry...
The Convener Con
A few members have indicated that they wish to speak. I ask Murdo Fraser, when he sums up, to clarify the position in relation to the code of conduct and whe...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
From what Murdo Fraser has said, I understand that he has put a great deal of work into his amendments. However, the committee has been blindsided by them. I...
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Infrastructure and Connectivity (Michael Matheson) SNP
We are not proposing to change civil law to criminal law.
Mike Rumbles LD
You would put the liability into statute.
Michael Matheson SNP
A civil law matter will not be changed to a criminal law matter. We are not doing that at all—it would remain within civil law.
The Convener Con
Thank you for that intervention. I am sure that you will have a chance to explain your position in detail later.
Mike Rumbles LD
This is exactly what I mean. The committee has not had the chance to look at the matter: we do not know anything about it. The committee’s job is to examine ...
Murdo Fraser Con
Mr Rumbles was on the committee last year, so he might remember that it debated a legislative consent memorandum to Sir Greg Knight’s Parking (Code of Practi...
Mike Rumbles LD
I thank Murdo Fraser for that intervention. For the record, I note that there was a very brief debate on a legislative consent motion. We are considering the...
Christine Grahame SNP
I support what is proposed in the amendments. I do not want to patronise Murdo Fraser by praising the clarity of his explanation. First, such parking is a m...
Mike Rumbles LD
I am puzzled as to why Christine Grahame thinks that it is fair, right and proper that someone who is not responsible for driving the vehicle should suddenly...
Christine Grahame SNP
The amendments would exempt stolen and hired cars. The keeper has given leave to someone to drive that car and they have responsibility for that vehicle. At ...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Will the member give way?