Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 14 November 2018
14 Nov 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Care
I am sure that Mr Rowley will recognise that I have had very similar comments from the health service about local government. That is why it is really important that the current jointly run review between COSLA and the Scottish Government on how well we have progressed so far with integration includes strands around governance and finance in order precisely to address those issues so that we know exactly what is going on and not just what one group of people says versus what another group of people says.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame)
SNP
As I said, we lose time even at a changeover, so I am afraid that I am going to move straight on. I think that Mr Rowley is ready. The next item of business...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
Labour lodged the motion for debate today in order to highlight what we see as some of the challenges that are faced by providers of health and social care. ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman)
SNP
I am sure that Mr Rowley will recognise that I have had very similar comments from the health service about local government. That is why it is really import...
Alex Rowley
Lab
We suggest that another way of doing that would be to look at the Scottish Government directly funding the IJBs. However, another main point in our motion is...
The Minister for Mental Health (Clare Haughey)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Rowley
Lab
I am sorry, but I do not have time. In a survey of care workers conducted by Unison, almost half of carers said that they were limited to specific times wit...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
I call Jeane Freeman, the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport, to speak to and move amendment S5M-14717.3. You have six minutes, cabinet secretary. 14:49
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman)
SNP
In this role, I have the privilege of meeting people who benefit from social care and people who provide it. Although those who I have met and heard from hav...
Elaine Smith (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Has the cabinet secretary read the Enable Scotland briefing? It says: “Third sector providers like Enable Scotland are forced to either fund uplifts in staf...
Jeane Freeman
SNP
I am grateful for that question. I have read the briefing—I have read all the briefings that came in for today’s debate, as I properly should. My response to...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
I am afraid that you must conclude there, cabinet secretary. I am terribly sorry, but this is a short debate.
Jeane Freeman
SNP
I took an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Yes, but even with that you have had nearly another minute. Please move your amendment.
Jeane Freeman
SNP
I move amendment S5M-14717.3, to leave out from “services; notes a central theme” to “Scottish Government to work” and insert: “, primary care and mental he...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Thank you. These short debates are always awkward for the chair. I call Miles Briggs to speak to and move amendment S5M-14717.1. 14:56
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con)
Con
I am pleased to take part in today’s debate and I thank the Labour Party for bringing this important matter to the chamber. Social care is one of the most im...
Jeane Freeman
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
I warn you, Mr Briggs, that there is no time in hand. You will have to absorb the time taken by any interventions.
Jeane Freeman
SNP
I will say this very quickly. Does the member recognise that in Edinburgh there is particular pressure in the labour market and that both the local authority...
Miles Briggs
Con
I have been calling for that for two years and I met the health board to say that it needs to be put in place. We have an overheated market here in Edinburgh...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
You must conclude there, I am afraid. I have to be the same with everyone. I am sorry about that—I beg your pardon.
Miles Briggs
Con
To conclude—
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
You have had five minutes. Sorry, Mr Briggs, but I have no time in hand. Please move your amendment.
Miles Briggs
Con
I move amendment S5M-14717.1, to insert at end: “, and further calls on the Scottish Government to focus on improving workforce planning and consider new m...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green)
Green
I thank Labour for bringing this debate to the chamber and I welcome the opportunity to discuss the future of social care in Scotland. I am heartened by the ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD)
LD
Every year, 500,000 bed days are lost to the NHS because of delayed discharge. The issue is one that was supposed to have been resolved almost three years ag...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani)
SNP
We move to the open debate. We are already behind time, so speeches of under four minutes would be useful. 15:10
Elaine Smith (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
On many occasions in Parliament, members have commended the skills and professionalism of people who work in the social care sector, and rightly so, because ...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Today’s motion on investing in social care for Scotland’s future states that the “health and social care system” is “based on human rights, where people r...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?