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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.18:01Members’ business will be published tomorrow, 11 June 2026, as soon as the text is available.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, is: For 55, Against 68, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We move to the vote on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:53Meeting suspended.17:55On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business.I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Jamie Hepburn is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Ross Greer will fall.The first question is, that amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepbu...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:53
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S7M-00301, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme.Motion moved,That the Parliament agrees—(a) the following programme of business—Tuesday 16 June 20262....
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
17:52
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That concludes the debate on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics.
Jackie Baillie Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister misunderstands and is clearly not listening. The people of Scotland are interested in those wider questions, but that is not what I am suggesting the inquiry should do. I have been very clear on that point.Let me go back to what Robin McAlpine had to say about dem...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I find it interesting that, although Ms Baillie said that it is not for others to take an interest in the SNP’s internal affairs, she is now talking extensively about the appointment of a KC and the thin nature of our internal governance review. It seems that she is taking an ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The key and absolute qualification for any First Minister of Scotland is that“that individual must be able to command the trust of the Parliament and the public.”—Official Report, 28 November 2001; c 4118.Those are not my words but those of John Swinney and, on that point, we ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, I do not, so let us move on.The point that I was going to make was one that I made earlier: it is important that, as an institution, we focus on matters that are of primary interest and of paramount importance to the people of Scotland. Instead of raising issues like this,...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I remember how sleazy, arrogant and entitled Labour became when it dominated Scottish politics. Does the minister see that at all in his party?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way to Mr Findlay.
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
: —that the SNP has won five elections in a row. It has earned the trust of the people for five elections in a row. It is just a matter of fact—there is no arrogance about it; it is just a reality.I think that it is important that we—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Please speak through the chair.
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It was the mindset that Murrell had.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It is not a mindset but a matter of fact—
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is your mindset.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
There are two things there. First, the public can be confident that the crime that has been perpetrated has been fully investigated and prosecuted and there is now a plea. I do not think that any of us is suggesting that there is a lack of confidence in that process—I certainl...
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is a very generous offer, but I will have to decline.The minister is talking about the SNP investigating itself. How does that improve the confidence of the public in the Government party in this country?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I do not think that Mr Rennie is one of those SNP members, but maybe he wants to apply to join—we might let him come on board.I will give way one more time, to Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister does not want to accept questions coming from other parts of the chamber. Does he accept that questions are also coming from people who served his party, both in the NEC and in Parliaments? Those people are saying that blocks and obstructions were put in the way o...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way one more time.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That was a wonderful pre-prepared line delivered tremendously well, Ms Lindsay. We look forward to much more of that.The past few weeks have been uncomfortable, difficult and very distressing for many of us—I will not pretend otherwise. No one would believe me if I did. Howeve...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the SNP lecturing Reform on sleaze is like Lord Mandelson selling ethics lessons. No one is buying it.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I say to Amanda Lindsay that I might take more seriously the notion that my party operated like a syndicate if her party was not one that had been formed as a private limited company that is owned by one individual. Let us just remember where we are all starting from. Interrup...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Yet, when it comes to holding one of its own to account for embezzling party funds, the urgency mysteriously disappears.Meanwhile, Scottish Labour, which called this debate, might want to reflect on its party’s sleazy history. After all, its hero, Lord Mandelson, was twice for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The member must be heard.
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Instead of full transparency, we have had silence, deflection and obstruction. The First Minister likes to lecture others about integrity, yet he still refuses to put country before party. If he truly believes in restoring public trust, he must stop hiding behind lawyers and f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, no, minister. The member does not have to take interventions.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Ah, come on!
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Forgive me, but I wish to make progress.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Amanda Lindsay (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I support this debate and back calls for a full parliamentary inquiry into the shocking embezzlement of party funds by Peter Murrell.The Scottish people deserve the truth. For years, the SNP has presented itself as a slick, professional political machine. In reality, it has op...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I think that Anas Sarwar would be horrified if a former or a current leader of a political party told its members how they should vote on a committee decision. Interruption. That is for committees to decide, and I am not going to instruct any—Interruption. Look at him laughing...
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Mr Harvie says that committees in this Parliament could investigate certain prosecutions. To clarify, if a motion came to the justice committee, would his party support such an investigation by the justice committee?
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I beg your pardon, Presiding Officer. I was just discovering how much some speeches improve when I remove my hearing aids.Sadly, today, we have very much seen the debate that I expected. There has been some opportunistic partisanship dressed up as principled concern, and there...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 April 2017

25 Apr 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Every party that is represented in the Parliament is a signatory to the Smith agreement. As all the previous speakers have said, a commitment was given as part of that agreement to devolve to this Parliament power over taxing the carriage of passengers from Scottish airports. That commitment, which was supported by all parties, should be honoured, and it is for that reason that Scottish Labour will vote to allow the Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill to progress beyond stage 1.

As has been said, the bill is an enabling bill that is supported in principle by the Finance and Constitution Committee. It is required if we as a Parliament are to give the Scottish Government the authority to switch on a new air departure tax when air passenger duty is switched off in Scotland next year. For us, endorsing the bill at stage 1 means endorsing the principle that the Scottish Government should levy its own air departure tax, in line with the conclusions of the Smith commission. It does not in any way mean endorsing the Scottish Government’s approach to what the rates and bands of ADT should be. Scottish Labour objects to the Scottish National Party’s plans to cut air passenger duty in half and then phase out the tax entirely, and we will vote against cuts to ADT rates when the time comes.

We support the bill because we believe that there should be an air departure tax, but we oppose a tax cut for the aviation industry because it is the wrong priority at the wrong time. Across Scotland, our schools and local services are facing hundreds of millions of pounds of cuts. At a time when we should be protecting the services that people rely on and finding new ways to invest in our communities, it is absurd that a tax cut for the aviation industry should be the SNP Government’s priority, and it is unacceptable that the Scottish Government cannot tell us what the impact of its proposals to cut the tax will be on the budget.

Since 2011, this Government has cut £1.5 billion from schools and local services, with £117 million of those cuts falling in Renfrewshire, which the finance secretary and I represent. Across Scotland, SNP cuts threaten schools, care services, road repairs and more. There are public sector workers who cannot afford to make ends meet and there are many local services that our councils cannot afford to sustain, yet the SNP tells us that it can afford to make a business-class flight cheaper.

It is estimated that the value of the tax break could be as high as £189 million. As James Kelly said, the key question for the finance secretary to answer is what will be cut to pay for it. The axe will have to fall somewhere. Will it fall on schools or on hospitals? Will it take the form of cuts to bus passes for the elderly? It is time for the SNP to be honest about its plans. Alternatively, are we just set to see £189 million of unspecified cuts over the next few years?

A 50 per cent cut in APD will not make Scotland any fairer. Analysis from the Office for National Statistics indicates that halving APD would save the top 20 per cent of earners £73 a year while saving the poorest an average of only £4.50 a year. Those on higher incomes fly more often, so they will benefit the most from any cut.

A 50 per cent cut in, or the complete phasing out of, ADT will not make Scotland any greener, either. The Scottish Government accepts that it could lead to a 3 per cent increase in aviation emissions, which could have a severe negative effect on our climate. The leaders of every party that is represented here today signed up to the climate change agreement, which committed us to building a low-carbon transport system for Scotland. Incentivising air travel at the expense of cross-border rail will contribute nothing to the fight against climate change.

As has been said, the Finance and Constitution Committee has recommended that the Scottish Government publish an analysis of the likely increase in carbon emissions arising from the proposed tax break. The committee also recommended that amendments be lodged at stage 2 to place a duty on ministers to report every second year on the socioeconomic and environmental outcomes from the air departure tax. However, we should go further and ensure that stronger safeguards are written into the bill at stage 2.

The Scottish Government has not presented us with a convincing case that a tax cut will make Scottish aviation any more competitive. The Government decided on its policy before considering the facts and is only now commissioning research to back up its claims. However, we know now that changing the tax regime will not, in itself, boost connectivity or improve our infrastructure.

There was some discussion in the Finance and Constitution Committee about the Irish experience of abolishing APD, which is interesting. The growth in passenger numbers that is often attributed to the tax cut in Ireland actually coincided with growth in passenger numbers across Europe, including in Scotland, so it is not at all clear that the tax cut was a stimulus for growth. As Chris Day from Transform Scotland pointed out,

“It is noticeable that the upturn in flights at Dublin was in hand before Ireland abolished APD.”—[Official Report, Finance and Constitution Committee, 22 February 2017; c 25.]

Here in Scotland, Edinburgh airport recorded an 11 per cent increase in passengers in 2016 despite the existing APD regime being in place. We regularly see motions from MSPs across the Parliament welcoming new routes and record passenger numbers at their local airports, celebrating the success of the Scottish airports but, at the same time, undermining the minister’s case that an ADT cut is a necessity.

There is no evidence that the Scottish Government’s chosen approach to air departure tax will make Scotland fairer, greener or more economically resilient. Next to no evidence has been produced in support of the Scottish Government’s case. The Finance and Constitution Committee says unequivocally in its stage 1 report:

“there was considerable consensus across all spectrums of opinion that the evidence base underpinning the proposed reduction required development ... the proposed reduction in ADT currently lacks an adequate evidence base.”

The Scottish Government says that it intends to listen and consult before it sets ADT rates and bands later this year, but we already know from the existing Scottish Government consultation that there is widespread opposition to the proposed tax cuts. If, following a consultation, Mr Mackay finds yet again that there is opposition to an ADT cut, will he abandon his plans for an airline tax giveaway? We would welcome an answer to that question.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-05283, in the name of Derek Mackay, on the Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. 16:27
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Constitution (Derek Mackay) SNP
I am delighted to open the stage 1 debate on the Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill. The devolution of powers over air passenger duty to the Scottish Parliame...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Derek Mackay SNP
Of course, but after I make my point. In future years, tax bands and tax rate amounts will be set as part of the budget process, which is consistent with ex...
James Kelly Lab
At what point in the process will the cabinet secretary outline the cuts that will have to be made to the Scottish budget to take account of the up to £189 m...
Derek Mackay SNP
I am coming to the policy intention and I will engage with the wider community, Parliament, political parties and the sector to understand and outline our po...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
This is the central contradiction in the bill. The minister is now saying that he is going to conduct discussions with all the parties and economic analysis....
Derek Mackay SNP
The Scottish Government has been clear. We support that position, and we have looked at the evidence. I have been asked to expand on the independent evidence...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Derek Mackay SNP
I will maybe take a further intervention after I have made some more progress. The assessment will report in the autumn, no later than when the Government s...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
So far, the finance minister has not mentioned the fact that Transport Scotland has concluded that what has been proposed will mean 60,000 tonnes of carbon d...
Derek Mackay SNP
In giving further detailed evidence to the Finance and Constitution Committee and others, the Government has made it clear that we will need to work harder i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Bruce Crawford to speak on behalf of the Finance and Constitution Committee. 16:40
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
It is my pleasure to speak as the convener of the Finance and Constitution Committee. I put on record my thanks to my fellow committee members for the constr...
Patrick Harvie Green
I am sure that the committee convener would recognise that it would be a more accurate description of the situation to say “if no such bill were passed”. We ...
Bruce Crawford SNP
I cannot deny that logic—there is no point having a fight about something that no one would disagree with. The committee made a wide range of recommendation...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I echo the Finance and Constitution Committee convener’s thanks to everyone who gave evidence to the committee and to the committee clerks and the Scottish P...
Patrick Harvie Green
On the face of it, I do not disagree with the basic description that Mr Fraser has given. However, can he recall any other situation in which a Government ha...
Murdo Fraser Con
I appreciate that Mr Harvie will be unhappy this afternoon, as the proposals combine two things that he likes least in the world: aviation and tax cuts. It m...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will Mr Fraser take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
I am going to make some progress. I will give way later if I have time. As Bruce Crawford pointed out, the bill does not stipulate the exemptions to the def...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Come to a close, please.
Murdo Fraser Con
Therefore, I believe that, for economic and environmental reasons, a cut in long-haul ADT as opposed to a cut across the board would make sense, but we accep...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Every party that is represented in the Parliament is a signatory to the Smith agreement. As all the previous speakers have said, a commitment was given as pa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must close now, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
Will the finance secretary listen to the majority? It is not often that the SNP does that. We will support the introduction of an air departure tax today, b...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must finish, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
Let us use the Parliament’s powers to create a fair, proportionate and stable air departure tax regime.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move on to the open debate. We have no time in hand, so I ask for some self-discipline from speakers, please. 17:03
Maree Todd (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
As of next year, the Scottish Parliament will set the rates for a new Scottish air departure tax. That presents the Government with an opportunity to design ...