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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
That concludes the urgent question. We will have a one-minute break to switch over, after which we will resume with portfolio questions.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I understand the motivation behind Mr Smith’s questions. He will understand that Police Scotland, the Courts and Tribunals Service and the Crown are rightly independent of Government. However, what we are able to see from the footage that Mr Kerr and Mr Smith have alluded to s...
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I commend Paul Sweeney for his contributions in the chamber. There is a lot of unanimity across the Parliament, and we should all be careful with our words in general when discussing such matters.These are aggravated offences. I commend the cabinet secretary for his response, ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I agree with Mr Kerr’s points. Of course, there is a right to protest and to organise peacefully, but that is not what we saw last night. We saw thuggery and intimidatory tactics seeking to divide communities. They will not succeed in Scotland.Last night, I was in live dialogu...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Looking at the footage of last night’s events, we see that it was not protest but criminal disorder. Families should be able to go about their daily lives in Scotland without fear of violence, intimidation or public disorder from a gang of balaclava-clad hooligans.Will the cab...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
In the first instance, those efforts are being led by Police Scotland in the work that it is doing to reassure communities across Scotland. Work is ongoing in Government to ensure that we are able to protect and enhance communities, including minority ethnic groups and religio...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen and Cambuslang) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The scenes in Glasgow city centre and in other parts of Scotland—and, indeed, in Belfast—were truly shocking. Those scenes and all racism must be condemned by all parties in the chamber. Shame on those who choose not to do so.How will the Scottish Government reach out to and w...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I fundamentally and completely agree with what Paul Sweeney has said—I believe that to my core. We are a welcoming nation. We have benefited from migration to this country and we continue to benefit from it. I say that particularly given the offices that I have held in health ...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Some members of the Parliament have sought to fan the flames of division with continual talk of “strangers” and calls for further protests tonight. Does the cabinet secretary agree that every one of us in the Parliament has a duty to calm tensions in this country and not to in...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Before Paul Sweeney comes back in, I say to him that I am looking for questions rather than speeches. Other members are keen to come in, so it is important that we keep questions as brief as possible.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I completely agree with everything that Paul Sweeney has put on the record in his supplementary question. The Scottish Government’s approach is grounded in tackling hate consistently and proportionately across all communities, which is underpinned by a zero-tolerance stance on...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Last night, racist thugs stormed through the centre of Glasgow under the white nationalist slogan “White lives matter”. Members of the public were attacked indiscriminately because of the colour of their skin, and two police officers were injured. My prayers are with those who...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The actions of a very small number of individuals in parts of Scotland last night, which included the assaulting of police officers and members of minority ethnic communities, are shocking and unacceptable. Violence and racism have no place on our streets, and I utterly condem...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
To ask the Scottish Government what urgent action it will take in response to the reported violent racist demonstrations that took place last night in Glasgow.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
14:04
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Today’s business begins with the results of the elections for committee conveners. I will announce the results for each committee in turn.Stuart McMillan has been elected as convener of the Climate Action Committee. The total number of ballots was 121 and the results were as f...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is disappointing that Mr Hoy does not welcome the prospect of a GP walk-in service for Stranraer. The important point is that the purpose of GP walk-in services is to free up capacity in the primary care system, so that people across our constituencies and regions can be se...
Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is 77 miles from Sanquhar to Stranraer, which is a journey that takes a minimum of two hours by car or at least four hours by bus. Given that my constituents will be expected to make that journey to access the GP walk-in centre in Stranraer, does that not expose the policy ...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I expect the Glasgow site to open later this month. I very much appreciate the health board’s hard work to get the services up and running. I am sure that Michelle Campbell will join me in welcoming the opening of the sites and thanking our hard-working national health service...
Michelle Campbell (Renfrewshire North and Cardonald) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Work is well under way in preparation for Glasgow’s first walk-in clinic opening. Can the Scottish Government offer an update on when that wonderful resource for the good people of Cardonald will be open?
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Ms Gibson has made an important point about reducing health inequality by improving access to healthcare. The Government is committed to providing a North Ayrshire walk-in service, which was one of the 14 additional services that were announced. That brings the total number of...
Patricia Gibson SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
North Ayrshire’s people have Scotland’s lowest healthy life expectancy. The average adult remains in full health until just 53 years old. More than 28 per cent of people live with a long-term health condition, which is 6 per cent higher than the Scottish average. In view of th...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I have committed to expanding the walk-in service programme and will set out how I will do so in the first 100 days of this Government. Health boards were previously asked to generate proposals that considered their populations’ needs, taking into account local issues and circ...
Patricia Gibson (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
To ask the Scottish Government when it expects a general practitioner walk-in centre to open in North Ayrshire. (S7O-00023)
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
The short answer is yes. I am happy to meet Ms Minto or any other member to discuss the matter further. The challenge of multiple organisations drawing on small rural populations is not new. The SFRS works collaboratively with a range of partners, including the coastguard serv...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I appreciate that these are independent decisions to be made by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, but I am interested to know whether the Scottish Government is looking at the cumulative impact of those changes on, for example, other rescue services such as the coastguard,...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I am more than happy to explore that with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service in order to ensure that we are in a position to respond to the changing nature of fire and flood risk across Scotland. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s very successful prevention activities, a...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
Ministers previously told Parliament that almost £1 million of specialist wildfire pumping units would be deployed within weeks. A Scottish Conservative freedom of information request later revealed that they were still not operational, during Scotland’s worst wildfire season ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
These are independent decisions for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to make, but it is open to Parliament to take a view on those matters—in the way that a view is normally taken, for example, on investigations undertaken through the committee structure—or otherwise. Obvi...
Joe Fagan Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
There is profound concern about the potential outcomes of the service delivery review, not least from the firefighters and their union. Given the gravity of the decisions that are about to be made, does the Government agree that there should be full parliamentary scrutiny and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I met the SFRS board chair on 4 June, when we discussed the overall objectives of the service delivery review and the consultation and outreach process that the SFRS has undertaken. Recent large fires in Glasgow and Fife have been dealt with commendably by our front-line firef...
Joe Fagan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service board regarding the outcome of the service delivery review that is due to be considered on 22 June. (S7O-00022)
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am happy to answer.If Mr Cole-Hamilton wishes to write to me, I will write back to him as swiftly as I possibly can.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That was not quite on the nose for the general question, but do you want to respond, cabinet secretary?
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I hope that the cabinet secretary will agree that one of the safest ways to get students from Kirkliston in my constituency to their catchment high school in South Queensferry is via the council-funded coach service that has been operating well there for several years. A decis...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I realise that everyone is finding their feet, including me. I remind members that they should only press their button if they want to ask a supplementary to the general question that has been asked.Alex Cole-Hamilton has a supplementary.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
My apologies, Presiding Officer. I pressed my button in error, thinking that I would have to do that for my general question later on.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Lloyd Melville has a supplementary.
Julie MacDougall Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I apologise.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That is not relevant to this question. We are on supplementaries to the question that Patrick Harvie asked.
Julie MacDougall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I recently met the chief executive of Forth Valley College. It was incredibly harrowing to hear about how apprenticeship courses are being cut—
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Julie MacDougall has a supplementary.
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Mr Harvie will be pleased to know that £3.2 million is still going to regional transport partnerships—£1.6 million will be available for local direct awards and £1.4 million is going to bikeability schemes, which all our weans can benefit from. Of course, that forms part of a ...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am sorry that the cabinet secretary did not choose to answer that question by explaining why the cut took place and why it took place during the election purdah period. I have returned to my job to meet local community organisations that are doing the work that the Scottish ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Tourism and Transport (Stephen Flynn) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I thank Patrick Harvie for his question, because it gives me the opportunity to restate what the First Minister said. We support cycling, walking and wheeling, which is why £226 million-worth of investment is going into sustainable and active travel. I am very proud of that—I ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
To ask the Scottish Government, in light of comments made by the First Minister in the Parliament on 2 June that the Scottish Government prioritises active and safe travel routes and the encouragement of cycling, walking and wheeling, for what reason Transport Scotland reporte...
Stephen Kerr Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Thank you.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Yes.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. For guidance, would it be possible for the same person to be nominated again in those circumstances?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
The process is opened again for further nominations. However, to be clear, any other member who is nominated will have to come from the party from which the original member was selected.
Helen McDade Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
What happens then?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
If a candidate receives the majority of votes, that candidate will become the committee convener. If the majority is against it, that candidate will not be the committee convener.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I just wonder what the process is. Can you explain what happens once a vote has been cast when there is only one candidate, so that we know what we are voting against?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Willie Rennie’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Fifteen out of 15 convenerships will be subject to secret ballots.I have also received two valid nominations for convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. The nomin...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Craig Hoy’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Willie Rennie has been nominated as convener of the Transport Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was received.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Mark Ruskell’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Craig Hoy has been nominated as convener of the Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button n...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Bob Doris’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Mark Ruskell has been nominated as convener of the Rural Affairs Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Paul Sweeney’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Bob Doris has been nominated as convener of the Public Service Reform Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Neil Bibby’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Paul Sweeney has been nominated as convener of the Public Petitions Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Helen McDade’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Neil Bibby has been nominated as convener of the Public Audit Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
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Equal Opportunities Committee, 29 Feb 2000

29 Feb 2000 · S1 · Equal Opportunities Committee
Item of business
Scottish Refugee Council
Sally Daghlian (Scottish Refugee Council): Watch on SPTV
Thank you for inviting us to give evidence to the committee today. We are pleased that the committee is taking an interest in refugee issues. Refugees and asylum seekers are one of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged groups in society. They face many difficulties, including discrimination, racism, physical attacks and disadvantage in accessing basic services. That is compounded by language barriers, issues relating to social origin, a lack of information on, and knowledge about, the systems in the UK, and isolation.

Today, we want to raise your awareness of refugee issues and highlight some specific equal opportunities issues. We also wish to look at the implications of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 and suggest some ways in which the committee might ensure the promotion of equal opportunities for refugees.

I will quickly explain what the Scottish Refugee Council does. We provide advice, information, legal representation and practical support to asylum seekers and refugees in Scotland. We work strategically to promote good practice in refugee settlement, and to encourage appropriate policy development in local authorities, Government departments and other agencies. We campaign on refugee issues and aim to ensure that Scotland meets its legal and humanitarian obligations towards refugees.

Before we look at the specifics of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, it might be useful to refresh people's minds on the definition of a refugee. The legal definition of a refugee comes from the 1951 United Nations convention on refugees and the 1967 protocol on refugees, which form the basis of international refugee law. The UK is a signatory to the convention and played a key role in drafting it. According to the convention, a refugee is any person who

"owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country".

The right to seek asylum is enshrined in the 1948 UN declaration of human rights. An asylum seeker is a person who has applied for recognition as a refugee under the convention. Someone who has been recognised in the UK as a refugee has indefinite leave to remain here, and eventually can apply for citizenship. The UN convention on refugees states that a refugee should be treated no less favourably than any other citizen.

Refugees come to Scotland from many different countries—and from different backgrounds, religions and social origins—and face similar difficulties to other ethnic minorities in Scotland, but with added and specific difficulties relating to their experiences as refugees. In particular, refugees have often experienced and witnessed severe violence. All have lost a great deal and suffer grief in exile. There are specific difficulties faced by different groups of refugees, from women refugees to elderly refugees, to young unaccompanied refugees and torture victims.

The Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 will have a great impact on asylum seekers in Scotland. Despite the fact that immigration and asylum are reserved matters, the act is a question for the Scottish Parliament and this committee. I remind the committee that the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 has amended five pieces of Scottish legislation that cover devolved areas: the Social Work (Scotland) Act 1968, the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978, the Mental Health (Scotland) Act 1984, the Housing (Scotland) Act 1988 and the Children (Scotland) Act 1985. All the amendments exclude asylum seekers from some of the provisions of those acts.

Under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, up to 6,000 asylum seekers a year will be dispersed to Scotland, which the Home Secretary has designated as a cluster region. Dispersal will significantly alter the long-term make-up of the ethnic minority communities in Scotland; they will grow and become much more diverse. Dispersal will have implications for education, health, housing and other services.

Home Office statistics show that 63 per cent of decisions made on asylum applications in 1999 were positive, so many refugees will be citizens here long term. The dispersal policy is part of a longer-term integration and settlement strategy. The Government wants people who are granted refugee status to remain in the regions to which they are dispersed.

We have particular concerns about the proposed support arrangements for asylum seekers, which will have an impact on people's long-term ability to settle and integrate. Under the act, a new Government agency—the national asylum support service—will be set up to administer a means-tested support system. Destitute asylum seekers will be dispersed across the United Kingdom on a no-choice basis without account being taken of any family or community support.

Support will be provided through a package of vouchers and cash. Only £10 cash will be provided per person per week. The total package will be equivalent to only 70 per cent of income support, even after the provision of utilities as part of the support package is taken into account.

There are many problems with the voucher system. Vouchers stigmatise and are degrading and experience shows that they are likely to lead to community relations problems. In England, vouchers have been in use for asylum seekers since 1996. Asylum seekers have regularly suffered abuse and humiliation when using vouchers. Vouchers do not allow asylum seekers to get best value. That is discrimination as it restricts where asylum seekers are entitled to shop.

The support system was devised to be used for short periods. The Government target for decisions on applications for asylum was six months, but decisions are now taking an average of 27 months and we see no prospect of that being speeded up.

The support system contradicts directly Government policy on social inclusion and equal opportunities. Specifically, the system will result in social exclusion, stigmatisation and marginalisation of one section of the community. It is the first time in Scotland that one particular group has been excluded from social welfare provisions. The move will have an impact not only on asylum seekers, but on the wider refugee and ethnic minority communities. Asylum seekers will live in extreme poverty, unable to participate in normal community activities. They will have a lack of opportunities and will be forced to rely on already disadvantaged ethnic minority communities for support.

We are very concerned about the potential impact on children. The system may lead to breaches of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. The Scottish Refugee Council and Save the Children intend to investigate that further.

Access to services for asylum seekers will be difficult, not only because they will be excluded from some services, but because of the language barriers and lack of sensitivity among service providers that asylum seekers and refugees experience.

Interpreters and translation services are vital to ensuring equality of opportunity. Many service providers, such as general practitioners, are not required or funded to provide interpreters for people who do not speak English. That leads to reliance on friends, family members and unqualified interpreters and raises questions of confidentiality and accuracy of diagnosis and treatment. Access to interpreting of minority languages in Scotland is also limited.

Certain groups of refugees, such as female refugees, might face additional problems because of misunderstandings relating to culture, religion and not knowing that services specifically for women exist.

Asylum seekers and refugees face racial harassment. Previous refugee settlement in Scotland, particularly the Vietnamese and Chilean programmes, has shown that refugees will be isolated and targeted for racial abuse if they are settled in inappropriate areas. The stigmatisation of asylum seekers through the voucher system and the inappropriate placement of asylum seekers—for example, in areas of multiple deprivation—are likely to lead to harassment and abuse.

Dispersal without community education to ensure that the host population understands the needs and problems of asylum seekers is likely to lead to local tension, hostility and abuse. That has been the case in many areas in England. Already, there has been some inaccurate and negative press reporting about dispersal in Glasgow, which has resulted in some hostile community response.

Another area of concern is policing. A recent "Newsnight" report from Wales suggested that, despite the Macpherson report, police officers do not always deal with crimes against ethnic minorities appropriately. Dispersal of refugees to Scotland has implications for police officers, who must be trained to deal with asylum seekers, many of whom have had exceptionally negative experiences of state authorities and police. Again, access to interpreting is key to ensuring equal access to protection and justice.

Asylum seekers are here because they need protection under the UN convention of human rights. Access to legal advice and representation and, therefore, access to justice are areas of concern. Asylum seekers need specialist legal advice. Very few legal practitioners work on this area in Scotland and dispersed asylum seekers will have difficulties accessing appropriate legal advice, which might mean that they do not receive the protection they need. Survey evidence suggests that 30 per cent of people who are legally represented win their appeal, which contrasts with a 6 per cent average for success at appeals.

Asylum seekers coming to Scotland will be expected by the immigration department to travel to Croydon for their asylum interview. That will seriously disadvantage asylum seekers living in Scotland as their legal representatives will not be able to attend those crucial interviews with them.

Refugee children have suffered particular disruption and trauma and require sensitive induction to school and learning support to enable them to understand new systems and learn English. Teachers and schools need to have an understanding of background issues. Experience in England suggests that negative stereotyping and teachers' low expectations can hold back refugee children.

For the successful integration of adults, the keys are English language and employment. Many refugees are highly skilled and highly qualified yet face financial and other hurdles in their efforts to requalify or train. Research among Scottish Refugee Council clients show that 60 per cent of asylum seekers and refugees have a degree, diploma or professional qualification, yet many of them are long-term unemployed. That research is backed up by the Home Office's own research throughout the UK.

Section 8 of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996, which makes it a criminal offence to employ anyone who does not have permission to work in the UK, leads to discrimination against refugees, asylum seekers and ethnic minorities. Other agencies have suggested that it is leading to whites-only policies among employers. Employers are often unaware of the different types of permission to work, and therefore wary of employing refugees. That denies individuals the opportunity to work and it denies society the contribution that they might make.

How can this committee help? We suggest that it can do several things. First, it could monitor discrimination and harassment experienced by refugees and asylum seekers in Scotland. Secondly, it could review the impact on equal opportunities of existing legislation in devolved areas such as housing, education, health, social work, legal aid and access to local government services. That could be done by requesting reports from the Scottish Executive as well as through taking evidence from refugee organisations.

We suggest that the committee could also make representations to the Home Office about the equal opportunities implications of existing legislation on reserved matters, such as in the areas of asylum decision-making and dispersal. The committee could ensure that any legislation that comes before this Parliament does not increase the risk of discrimination against refugees and asylum seekers. It could also make legislative proposals to reduce existing discrimination and promote equal opportunities for refugees and asylum seekers.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Convener: SNP
The second piece of evidence today is from the Scottish Refugee Council. James Mackenzie and Sally Daghlian will outline some of their concerns about the imp...
Sally Daghlian (Scottish Refugee Council):
Thank you for inviting us to give evidence to the committee today. We are pleased that the committee is taking an interest in refugee issues. Refugees and as...
The Deputy Convener: SNP
Thank you, Sally. James, do you have anything to add at this stage?
James Mackenzie (Scottish Refugee Council):
No.
The Deputy Convener: SNP
You mentioned the need for host communities to provide community education. Are you aware of any Home Office or Scottish Executive plans to carry out such ed...
Sally Daghlian:
We are not aware of any such plans. The Home Office has recommended that the regional consortia that are to oversee the dispersal of asylum seekers should de...
Johann Lamont: Lab
You may not be aware that the Local Government Committee intends to address the impact of dispersal on the demands on local government services. A lot of wha...
Sally Daghlian:
The Government has suggested that asylum seekers should be placed only in areas in which there are ethnic minority communities, so that those people can acce...
James Mackenzie:
There is a specific concern about the so-called hard cases in that the replacement system under section 12 of the Social Work (Scotland) Act 1968 does not ap...
Johann Lamont: Lab
Does that mean that children and young people would be particularly vulnerable? Is that group excluded from social services provision?
Sally Daghlian:
At the moment, homeless asylum-seeking families with children would be accommodated under the Children (Scotland) Act 1995. After the implementation of the c...
Mr McMahon: Lab
One of the other areas that you highlighted was employment. The law says that an employer cannot take on someone who does not have permission to work, yet em...
Sally Daghlian:
Without going into all the technicalities—which I would not be able to do—there are employment permits and so on to consider. The permission that an asylum s...
Mr Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con): Con
I wanted clarification on whether support will be in the form of a packet of vouchers and £10 cash per person. How often is the £10 provided?
Sally Daghlian:
Once a week.
Mr McGrigor: Con
And the vouchers are for different services?
Sally Daghlian:
The vouchers may be exchanged in shops for food or clothing.
Mr McGrigor: Con
You are obviously against that system. You—or Kent County Council—are saying that it is three and a half times more expensive than a cash system. Are not the...
Sally Daghlian:
I see it the other way round. Vouchers are more difficult for people to understand, whereas cash is universal. People understand what money is and how it can...
Mr McGrigor: Con
I have had a similar experience. I remember going to Russia, in 1969 I think. I had to use a voucher system and I found it very complicated. On the subject o...
Sally Daghlian:
Asylum seekers used to be entitled to welfare benefits. We think that that is cheaper, more efficient and in the asylum seeker's interests. The £10 cash is i...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
You say that, under NASS, up to 6,000 asylum seekers will be dispersed to Scotland every year. Is that 6,000 individuals or 6,000 family units?
Sally Daghlian:
I think that it is 6,000 principal asylum seekers, so it could include more individuals. Usually, the Home Office counts the principal asylum seeker. However...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Would those who decide that one person is coming to Scotland and another is going to London have regard to family relationships, so that people in the same f...
Sally Daghlian:
We understand that they would not. The legislation states that the Home Secretary can have no regard to the asylum seeker's preference. Under the interim dis...
Mr John Munro (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD): LD
In your submission, you say:"Destitute asylum seekers will be dispersed across the UK on a no-choice basis",irrespective of family commitments and so on. Sur...
Sally Daghlian:
Yes.
Mr Munro: LD
If the family is broken up, that adds to the trauma that the asylum seekers are experiencing.
Sally Daghlian:
We agree. One of our concerns is that some people will choose not to be dispersed, because they would rather stay in places where there are people whom they ...
Elaine Smith: Lab
Do you think that there is a danger that asylum seekers may be housed in areas where housing is hard to let? Would that concern you?