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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.18:01Members’ business will be published tomorrow, 11 June 2026, as soon as the text is available.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, is: For 55, Against 68, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We move to the vote on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:53Meeting suspended.17:55On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business.I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Jamie Hepburn is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Ross Greer will fall.The first question is, that amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepbu...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:53
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S7M-00301, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme.Motion moved,That the Parliament agrees—(a) the following programme of business—Tuesday 16 June 20262....
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
17:52
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That concludes the debate on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics.
Jackie Baillie Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister misunderstands and is clearly not listening. The people of Scotland are interested in those wider questions, but that is not what I am suggesting the inquiry should do. I have been very clear on that point.Let me go back to what Robin McAlpine had to say about dem...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I find it interesting that, although Ms Baillie said that it is not for others to take an interest in the SNP’s internal affairs, she is now talking extensively about the appointment of a KC and the thin nature of our internal governance review. It seems that she is taking an ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The key and absolute qualification for any First Minister of Scotland is that“that individual must be able to command the trust of the Parliament and the public.”—Official Report, 28 November 2001; c 4118.Those are not my words but those of John Swinney and, on that point, we ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, I do not, so let us move on.The point that I was going to make was one that I made earlier: it is important that, as an institution, we focus on matters that are of primary interest and of paramount importance to the people of Scotland. Instead of raising issues like this,...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I remember how sleazy, arrogant and entitled Labour became when it dominated Scottish politics. Does the minister see that at all in his party?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way to Mr Findlay.
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
: —that the SNP has won five elections in a row. It has earned the trust of the people for five elections in a row. It is just a matter of fact—there is no arrogance about it; it is just a reality.I think that it is important that we—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Please speak through the chair.
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It was the mindset that Murrell had.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It is not a mindset but a matter of fact—
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is your mindset.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
There are two things there. First, the public can be confident that the crime that has been perpetrated has been fully investigated and prosecuted and there is now a plea. I do not think that any of us is suggesting that there is a lack of confidence in that process—I certainl...
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is a very generous offer, but I will have to decline.The minister is talking about the SNP investigating itself. How does that improve the confidence of the public in the Government party in this country?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I do not think that Mr Rennie is one of those SNP members, but maybe he wants to apply to join—we might let him come on board.I will give way one more time, to Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister does not want to accept questions coming from other parts of the chamber. Does he accept that questions are also coming from people who served his party, both in the NEC and in Parliaments? Those people are saying that blocks and obstructions were put in the way o...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way one more time.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That was a wonderful pre-prepared line delivered tremendously well, Ms Lindsay. We look forward to much more of that.The past few weeks have been uncomfortable, difficult and very distressing for many of us—I will not pretend otherwise. No one would believe me if I did. Howeve...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the SNP lecturing Reform on sleaze is like Lord Mandelson selling ethics lessons. No one is buying it.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I say to Amanda Lindsay that I might take more seriously the notion that my party operated like a syndicate if her party was not one that had been formed as a private limited company that is owned by one individual. Let us just remember where we are all starting from. Interrup...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Yet, when it comes to holding one of its own to account for embezzling party funds, the urgency mysteriously disappears.Meanwhile, Scottish Labour, which called this debate, might want to reflect on its party’s sleazy history. After all, its hero, Lord Mandelson, was twice for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The member must be heard.
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Instead of full transparency, we have had silence, deflection and obstruction. The First Minister likes to lecture others about integrity, yet he still refuses to put country before party. If he truly believes in restoring public trust, he must stop hiding behind lawyers and f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, no, minister. The member does not have to take interventions.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Ah, come on!
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Forgive me, but I wish to make progress.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Amanda Lindsay (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I support this debate and back calls for a full parliamentary inquiry into the shocking embezzlement of party funds by Peter Murrell.The Scottish people deserve the truth. For years, the SNP has presented itself as a slick, professional political machine. In reality, it has op...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I think that Anas Sarwar would be horrified if a former or a current leader of a political party told its members how they should vote on a committee decision. Interruption. That is for committees to decide, and I am not going to instruct any—Interruption. Look at him laughing...
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Mr Harvie says that committees in this Parliament could investigate certain prosecutions. To clarify, if a motion came to the justice committee, would his party support such an investigation by the justice committee?
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I beg your pardon, Presiding Officer. I was just discovering how much some speeches improve when I remove my hearing aids.Sadly, today, we have very much seen the debate that I expected. There has been some opportunistic partisanship dressed up as principled concern, and there...
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Committee

European and External Relations Committee 03 March 2016

03 Mar 2016 · S4 · European and External Relations Committee
Item of business
Human Rights
Neil, Alex SNP Airdrie and Shotts Watch on SPTV
Our very strong view is that we not only disagree with the UK Government’s analysis but think the opposite. Far from undermining the UK Parliament’s sovereignty, the human rights legislation enhances its democratic accountability to the people of the UK. Similarly, we believe that the human rights legislation enhances the courts and their ability, where they believe that a human right has not been observed, to rule that that is the case, which effectively ensures that people’s human rights are fully protected. We have already mentioned the example of the bedroom tax, but there are many examples of rulings under, or with reference to, human rights legislation that have enhanced ordinary people’s living standards. One such ruling related not only to disabled children but to the bedroom tax, while another related to a woman who had been the subject of domestic abuse and violence and her need to take measures to protect her from any further violence from her partner. That ruling was enforced by a court under the terms of the human rights legislation, and it might have been very difficult for that lady to have had the same result without it. It is a very good example of where the court’s ability to do the right thing morally and ethically has, in my view, been substantially enhanced. I find the concept of mission creep absurd. Ever since we created a Parliament in the UK nearly 1,000 years ago and ever since we have had the Scottish Parliament—indeed, ever since every Parliament in the world has been created—courts have had to interpret the laws that those Parliaments have passed. In interpreting the law, the courts have to take account of changes in society that have happened since it was introduced. If you look at specific cases under human rights legislation, you will very often find that the position is very similar to cases under any form of legislation; it is for the courts to interpret the law, and they must take account of changed circumstances, developments in society and whatever is relevant to what is presented in court. I do not regard that as mission creep. The law of the land is a dynamic force; it is not static, and it must keep up with the times. A good example is the rights of Gypsy Travellers. Another example goes way back to the 1950s—which you might remember better than me, Adam—when we had discrimination against children, corporal punishment and capital punishment. Gay rights and the rights of other minorities are other examples. The rights in all those areas have been enhanced by the courts under human rights legislation. I do not think that people disagree with that approach. The one or two controversial decisions—the one that is often cited is prisoners’ right to vote—have triggered, from a very small, extreme group in the House of Commons which is obsessed with the issue and which disagrees with those decisions, demands that we take down the whole edifice. That is just not on.

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The Convener SNP
Welcome back to the meeting. Item 3 is a continuation—and almost a conclusion—of our human rights inquiry. I welcome to the committee Alex Neil, who is the C...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights (Alex Neil) SNP
Absolutely. I will widen things out a wee bit to consider wider human rights issues, if that is okay.
The Convener SNP
Absolutely. You have had the benefit of having conversations with UK ministers, who decided not to accept our invitation to come to the committee to discuss ...
Alex Neil SNP
Thank you very much. I congratulate the committee on taking on the inquiry, which is extremely important and timeous, although it would obviously have been ...
The Convener SNP
Thank you, cabinet secretary. You took the words out of my mouth for my first question, because I have just seen some of the stuff from the Jimmy Reid Founda...
Alex Neil SNP
First of all, when we talk about this in the context of the EU referendum, it is very important that we make a clear distinction between the institutional fr...
Anne McTaggart Lab
I have a few questions. I will start with the devolution settlement. Arguments have been made that the repeal of the Human Rights Act 1998 could have an impa...
Alex Neil SNP
As I have said, the Scotland Act 1998, which set up the Parliament, had adherence to the principles and provisions of the European convention on human rights...
Anne McTaggart Lab
Given the different human rights regimes in different parts of the UK, how would that pan out?
Alex Neil SNP
The vast bulk of the legislation is very similar. In a lot of cases, it is identical. For obvious reasons, Northern Ireland has particular provisions and has...
Jamie McGrigor Con
From what you said, do I take it that the UK Government, which is compliant with the European convention on human rights, already has a bill of rights?
Alex Neil SNP
We do not know whether it has a draft ready, Jamie.
Jamie McGrigor Con
The point that I am making is that you said that the Scotland Act 1998 is compliant with the ECHR, which means that there is a bill of human rights as such. ...
Alex Neil SNP
There is not a bill of rights as such. We have the Human Rights Act 1998.
Jamie McGrigor Con
It is not called a bill of rights but the fact that the UK Government is compliant with the ECHR gives the same sort of rights as a bill of rights would.
Alex Neil SNP
We do not know that because we do not know what the UK Government proposes will be in the bill of rights. Remember that the discussion inside the Tory party ...
Jamie McGrigor Con
All right.
Roderick Campbell SNP
Good morning. Mindful of my interest as a member of the Faculty of Advocates, I flag up the evidence that was given to the House of Lords EU Justice Sub-comm...
Alex Neil SNP
That issue has not cropped up in any discussions or correspondence that I have had with UK ministers. I would be very concerned if we were going to give the ...
Roderick Campbell SNP
Indeed. Thank you. That is a very helpful answer. Obviously, a lot of human rights lawyers and activists and campaigners in the third sector are keen to exte...
Alex Neil SNP
We are open to consideration of the extension of rights. I will give you an example. When the coalition Government came in during 2010-11, it abolished the s...
Adam Ingram SNP
Good morning, cabinet secretary. I would like to hear your view of the critique of current human rights legislation that has been promulgated by the Conserva...
Alex Neil SNP
Our very strong view is that we not only disagree with the UK Government’s analysis but think the opposite. Far from undermining the UK Parliament’s sovereig...
Adam Ingram SNP
They have fellow travellers in the popular press, including the Daily Mail.
Alex Neil SNP
Absolutely.
Adam Ingram SNP
The other issue relates to the House of Lords sub-committee meeting to which Rod Campbell referred and at which Michael Gove emphasised two areas of concern ...
Alex Neil SNP
First of all, as far as the armed forces are concerned, some of what has allegedly happened in Iraq raises certain human rights issues with regard to a small...
Adam Ingram SNP
Okay. Thank you. 10:45
The Convener SNP
Cabinet secretary, we have had a lot of evidence, including some quite detailed evidence from Michael Clancy of the Law Society of Scotland, who is always ve...
Alex Neil SNP
The first thing is to make a distinction between human rights and human rights legislation. Human rights are universal. They transcend time, geography, ethni...