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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.18:01Members’ business will be published tomorrow, 11 June 2026, as soon as the text is available.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, is: For 55, Against 68, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We move to the vote on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:53Meeting suspended.17:55On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business.I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Jamie Hepburn is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Ross Greer will fall.The first question is, that amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepbu...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:53
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S7M-00301, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme.Motion moved,That the Parliament agrees—(a) the following programme of business—Tuesday 16 June 20262....
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
17:52
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That concludes the debate on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics.
Jackie Baillie Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister misunderstands and is clearly not listening. The people of Scotland are interested in those wider questions, but that is not what I am suggesting the inquiry should do. I have been very clear on that point.Let me go back to what Robin McAlpine had to say about dem...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I find it interesting that, although Ms Baillie said that it is not for others to take an interest in the SNP’s internal affairs, she is now talking extensively about the appointment of a KC and the thin nature of our internal governance review. It seems that she is taking an ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The key and absolute qualification for any First Minister of Scotland is that“that individual must be able to command the trust of the Parliament and the public.”—Official Report, 28 November 2001; c 4118.Those are not my words but those of John Swinney and, on that point, we ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, I do not, so let us move on.The point that I was going to make was one that I made earlier: it is important that, as an institution, we focus on matters that are of primary interest and of paramount importance to the people of Scotland. Instead of raising issues like this,...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I remember how sleazy, arrogant and entitled Labour became when it dominated Scottish politics. Does the minister see that at all in his party?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way to Mr Findlay.
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
: —that the SNP has won five elections in a row. It has earned the trust of the people for five elections in a row. It is just a matter of fact—there is no arrogance about it; it is just a reality.I think that it is important that we—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Please speak through the chair.
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It was the mindset that Murrell had.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It is not a mindset but a matter of fact—
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is your mindset.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
There are two things there. First, the public can be confident that the crime that has been perpetrated has been fully investigated and prosecuted and there is now a plea. I do not think that any of us is suggesting that there is a lack of confidence in that process—I certainl...
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is a very generous offer, but I will have to decline.The minister is talking about the SNP investigating itself. How does that improve the confidence of the public in the Government party in this country?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I do not think that Mr Rennie is one of those SNP members, but maybe he wants to apply to join—we might let him come on board.I will give way one more time, to Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister does not want to accept questions coming from other parts of the chamber. Does he accept that questions are also coming from people who served his party, both in the NEC and in Parliaments? Those people are saying that blocks and obstructions were put in the way o...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way one more time.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That was a wonderful pre-prepared line delivered tremendously well, Ms Lindsay. We look forward to much more of that.The past few weeks have been uncomfortable, difficult and very distressing for many of us—I will not pretend otherwise. No one would believe me if I did. Howeve...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the SNP lecturing Reform on sleaze is like Lord Mandelson selling ethics lessons. No one is buying it.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I say to Amanda Lindsay that I might take more seriously the notion that my party operated like a syndicate if her party was not one that had been formed as a private limited company that is owned by one individual. Let us just remember where we are all starting from. Interrup...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Yet, when it comes to holding one of its own to account for embezzling party funds, the urgency mysteriously disappears.Meanwhile, Scottish Labour, which called this debate, might want to reflect on its party’s sleazy history. After all, its hero, Lord Mandelson, was twice for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The member must be heard.
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Instead of full transparency, we have had silence, deflection and obstruction. The First Minister likes to lecture others about integrity, yet he still refuses to put country before party. If he truly believes in restoring public trust, he must stop hiding behind lawyers and f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, no, minister. The member does not have to take interventions.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Ah, come on!
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Forgive me, but I wish to make progress.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Amanda Lindsay (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I support this debate and back calls for a full parliamentary inquiry into the shocking embezzlement of party funds by Peter Murrell.The Scottish people deserve the truth. For years, the SNP has presented itself as a slick, professional political machine. In reality, it has op...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I think that Anas Sarwar would be horrified if a former or a current leader of a political party told its members how they should vote on a committee decision. Interruption. That is for committees to decide, and I am not going to instruct any—Interruption. Look at him laughing...
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Mr Harvie says that committees in this Parliament could investigate certain prosecutions. To clarify, if a motion came to the justice committee, would his party support such an investigation by the justice committee?
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I beg your pardon, Presiding Officer. I was just discovering how much some speeches improve when I remove my hearing aids.Sadly, today, we have very much seen the debate that I expected. There has been some opportunistic partisanship dressed up as principled concern, and there...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 09 December 2014

09 Dec 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Fisheries Negotiations

I am delighted, if a little surprised, to be speaking in this debate. The detonation of a weather bomb and the consequential disruption to flights has meant that my colleague Tavish Scott is marooned in Shetland. Given the vital importance of the fishing industry to Shetland and of these negotiations to that industry, Tavish Scott’s absence from this debate is a loss. I know that he would want to extend his apologies to you, Presiding Officer, and to colleagues for his absence.

I was struck by the fact that almost one quarter of all fish that is landed in the UK is landed in Shetland. More fish was landed in Shetland in 2013 than was landed in Wales, England and Northern Ireland put together. Although I do not pretend that the figures for my constituency in Orkney match those for Shetland, it is nevertheless a sector that is vitally important economically and socially to the islands that I represent. These negotiations, and those that coincide with them, matter a great deal.

This year, unlike last, most of the deal appears already to have been done. The EU-Norway negotiations settled last week and the Faroese access agreements were settled earlier today. According to the SFF, there will not be a lot to fight about next week in Brussels. Those are perhaps famous last words, but as someone who bears the scars of the round-the-clock negotiations and middle-of-the-night compromise agreements from back in the day, I certainly welcome the situation and concur with the cabinet secretary’s description of previous processes as “bun fights”.

Of course, that is not to say that there will not be challenges. In a sector that is so varied, that has gone through so much change and that operates in such an environment, one would expect nothing less. Perhaps one of the most obvious challenges, certainly for the demersal fleet, is the implementation of the discard ban, which colleagues have referred to.

Next month, the Scottish Government will implement a discard ban on the pelagic sector. A basic minimalist plan is in place. With a clean fishery, where mackerel and herring swim and are caught in mid-water shoals, the discard ban is relatively straightforward, but that cannot be said for Scotland’s white-fish fleet.

From January 2016, the industry will have to live with a fishing practice that logic suggests is entirely correct and desirable. Landing all fish rather than throwing valuable quota species over the side is absolutely right, but the devil will assuredly be in the detail, as Richard Lochhead acknowledged. Landing everything that is caught at sea in a mixed fishery within the existing quota system is fraught with risks and could lead to disastrous consequences for some of our demersal fleet.

I recognise that Marine Scotland has changed its perspective on implementation and that the hard line appears to have softened, which is to be welcomed, but a discard ban for the white-fish fleet must be realistic. It should start not with four species—cod, saith, haddock and whiting—but instead with just haddock. Once a comprehensive assessment has been made of the effectiveness of the ban on haddock and the financial consequences for the vessels are clear, further steps can and should be taken. I urge the cabinet secretary to accept that approach and to work with the industry to deliver a ban that can work not just in principle but in practice, which I believe is a shared objective of many of the environmental non-governmental organisations.

At present, the consequences of a ban are simple. If quotas are not significantly increased, boats will go out of business, as they will run out of quota as they land all the fish in port—cod is the obvious example of that. An increase in quota and a land-all policy would have implications for vessel design, operation and capacity. Three quarters of the vessels in the Scottish fishing fleet are over 20 years old, and many are much older and need to be replaced. That is a nationwide problem, and the Government should look to assist with vessel replacement by utilising the European maritime fishing fund. The industry should be encouraged to look again at vessel design, new engine types and fuel mixes as well as other innovations that are aimed at reducing carbon burn. I welcome Marine Scotland’s acknowledgement that the issue must be addressed, although perhaps the cabinet secretary can make clear where he stands on that.

The Faroese access agreements have been finalised in London. Sadly, the unfair deal that rewards the Faroese for illegal fishing of mackerel is set to stay until 2019. No one in the Scottish pelagic catching or processing sector thinks that it is a good deal. The agreements are meant to be reciprocal, but there seems precious little gain for our fleet and processors. The Faroese said that their waters are teeming with mackerel. It is therefore puzzling that, instead of fishing in their coastal waters, the entire Faroese pelagic fleet has fished right up to the Scottish coastal limits. Imagine the outrage if the reverse was happening. There seems to be no upside for our pelagic and demersal sectors in the reciprocal arrangements, which is something that the cabinet secretary might need to take forward.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-11825, in the name of Richard Lochhead, on the end-of-year fish negotiations. 15:48
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
It does not really feel like a year since we last discussed the annual fisheries negotiations in the chamber. Time flies by when we are really busy, and 2014...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Can you draw to a close, please?
Richard Lochhead SNP
In a quintessentially Scottish sector, in which Scotland is predominant in the UK, we see devo max as a no-brainer that makes clear and absolute sense for fi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You really must close, please.
Richard Lochhead SNP
That is why we will continue to do our utmost to secure the best possible deal for this great and proud industry next week. I move, That the Parliament wel...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We are very tight for time today. 16:02
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
It is almost a year since the new common fisheries policy was introduced, but the forthcoming year is when the force of the changes comes into effect. We are...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
If the member has sympathy with the cabinet secretary, why does she want to remove the part of the motion that says exactly that—that we regret the cabinet s...
Claire Baker Lab
My understanding of the Scottish Government’s motion is that it does not refer to the particular incident about who represented us at EU negotiations, when I...
Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to take part in this important debate on the annual EU fisheries negotiations, which commence on 15 December. The outcome of the negotiations is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must draw to a close.
Jamie McGrigor Con
I will finish, then. Bertie Armstrong said that the industry was very much less concerned about who sits in the seats and was more concerned, in every deta...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must close.
Jamie McGrigor Con
I conclude by wishing the cabinet secretary the best of luck. I move amendment S4M-11825.2, to leave out from second “and supports” to end and insert: “; ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I am delighted, if a little surprised, to be speaking in this debate. The detonation of a weather bomb and the consequential disruption to flights has meant ...
Richard Lochhead SNP
Will the member give way?
Liam McArthur LD
Sorry, but I am running out of time. Perhaps the cabinet secretary can address the issue in his winding-up speech. The final part of the Government motion c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must draw to a close.
Liam McArthur LD
In the aftermath of the vote in favour of the UK, the fishing industry made it crystal clear that it expects both Scotland’s Governments to work collectively...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
When I came to Parliament in June 2001, my very first speech was on fisheries. In that speech I harked back to the work of Allan Macartney, a member of the E...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in today’s debate on an issue of great importance to the Scottish economy, our fishermen and our coastal communities. Acro...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
The SNP Government fights hard in Brussels for the whole Scottish fish sector, including fish processors and producers, and it will do so next week. At this...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
For anyone who is hearing me speak for the first time, let me declare that this French-born MSP has worked in the Scottish fishing industry for the past 30 y...
Claire Baker Lab
The member might be interested to note that Westminster is debating fisheries negotiations on Thursday this week.
Christian Allard SNP
I did not know about that—I will be very pleased to hear about the debate. I hope that, at Westminster, the parties will not do as the three political partie...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member must draw to a close, please.
Christian Allard SNP
I call on the cabinet secretary to address the problem of the closure of skate and ray fisheries in the north-east and west of Scotland. We must make sure th...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in the debate and for the range of briefings, which I have found very informative, that I received from various or...
Christian Allard SNP
I would not call Lord Smith a nationalist, but his commission has stated that the concordat on co-ordination of European Union policy issues needs to be impr...