Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 31 October 2013
31 Oct 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Play Strategy Action Plan
I entirely agree with that point, and I might get the chance later to talk about the risk-averse culture. Yes, there are stories of people banning conkers and so on, which is clearly risk aversion gone mad.
I want to digress slightly to make a point that Liz Smith might agree with. Physical education and play are clearly not the same. Most of us enjoy playing, but not all of us enjoy PE. However, organised sport and unsupervised play activities suffer from not having a high enough profile in our school curriculum. They are not ranked highly in the academic hierarchy. Even when it comes to extracurricular activity, we do not give play, sport or music, for that matter, enough time and support, and it can be done. I am not a fan of private education but it annoys and frustrates me that many state schools do not offer the focus on sport, games and physical activity that is so often a feature of the independent sector. Even though the picture was not quite as bad in Scotland as it was across the rest of the UK, stories about the high proportion of Olympic medallists last summer who were privately educated rather than state educated still rankle with me. Sport is not the same as play, but the point that I am trying to emphasise is that both would benefit greatly from a higher profile and higher status within our schools and education system. To echo what the minister said earlier, we do not take play seriously—if that is not too much of an oxymoron.
The action plan is very welcome. One aspect that jumped out at me was that the organisations on the list of consultees or of those responsible for implementation are already champions of play. In some ways, the most important actions in the plan are those outwith the play sector, which involve planners, architects and organisations such as local authorities. The strategy and action plan are very important, but I hope that we can move towards even firmer duties and statements of intent, such as a duty on local authorities to take account of play when granting planning consent or building roads. Some of our local authorities already have excellent play strategies that are making a difference, but even in that area duties are interpreted differently.
I agree entirely with the point that Jayne Baxter made earlier. I would like to see more open and interesting places for play. Every time a new estate gets built there is a wee play park with a swing and a seesaw, but is that what children really want? A few years ago, my wife and I bought a wooden Wendy house for the kids to play in, but when their friends come round the kids just want to play in the tree house, which is just four planks of wood with nails sticking out of it—it would never pass any risk assessment. However, the tree house has been a palace, a castle, a bedroom and a play room—it has been filled with the children’s imagination.
Seven and a half years ago, we had a members’ business debate calling for a play strategy. At the time, many of us bemoaned the risk-averse culture—the “cotton-wool kids”. I remember what Christine Grahame said at the time. She is not here just now, so I apologise if this paraphrasing is not quite accurate, but she said that if you hadn’t broken your arm as a kid, you hadn’t lived. Play is about learning one’s limitations and managing risk. I do not want my children to be scared of crossing the road; I want them to be sensibly aware of the risks and dangers.
I hope that attitudes are changing. I could pick a few holes in the strategy around the UN convention, but I will not, because I think it is a great move in the right direction. I do not get to agree with the Scottish Government that often, but on wellbeing and play, I think that we can work together.
I want to digress slightly to make a point that Liz Smith might agree with. Physical education and play are clearly not the same. Most of us enjoy playing, but not all of us enjoy PE. However, organised sport and unsupervised play activities suffer from not having a high enough profile in our school curriculum. They are not ranked highly in the academic hierarchy. Even when it comes to extracurricular activity, we do not give play, sport or music, for that matter, enough time and support, and it can be done. I am not a fan of private education but it annoys and frustrates me that many state schools do not offer the focus on sport, games and physical activity that is so often a feature of the independent sector. Even though the picture was not quite as bad in Scotland as it was across the rest of the UK, stories about the high proportion of Olympic medallists last summer who were privately educated rather than state educated still rankle with me. Sport is not the same as play, but the point that I am trying to emphasise is that both would benefit greatly from a higher profile and higher status within our schools and education system. To echo what the minister said earlier, we do not take play seriously—if that is not too much of an oxymoron.
The action plan is very welcome. One aspect that jumped out at me was that the organisations on the list of consultees or of those responsible for implementation are already champions of play. In some ways, the most important actions in the plan are those outwith the play sector, which involve planners, architects and organisations such as local authorities. The strategy and action plan are very important, but I hope that we can move towards even firmer duties and statements of intent, such as a duty on local authorities to take account of play when granting planning consent or building roads. Some of our local authorities already have excellent play strategies that are making a difference, but even in that area duties are interpreted differently.
I agree entirely with the point that Jayne Baxter made earlier. I would like to see more open and interesting places for play. Every time a new estate gets built there is a wee play park with a swing and a seesaw, but is that what children really want? A few years ago, my wife and I bought a wooden Wendy house for the kids to play in, but when their friends come round the kids just want to play in the tree house, which is just four planks of wood with nails sticking out of it—it would never pass any risk assessment. However, the tree house has been a palace, a castle, a bedroom and a play room—it has been filled with the children’s imagination.
Seven and a half years ago, we had a members’ business debate calling for a play strategy. At the time, many of us bemoaned the risk-averse culture—the “cotton-wool kids”. I remember what Christine Grahame said at the time. She is not here just now, so I apologise if this paraphrasing is not quite accurate, but she said that if you hadn’t broken your arm as a kid, you hadn’t lived. Play is about learning one’s limitations and managing risk. I do not want my children to be scared of crossing the road; I want them to be sensibly aware of the risks and dangers.
I hope that attitudes are changing. I could pick a few holes in the strategy around the UN convention, but I will not, because I think it is a great move in the right direction. I do not get to agree with the Scottish Government that often, but on wellbeing and play, I think that we can work together.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08099, in the name of Aileen Campbell, on the play strategy action plan.
The Minister for Children and Young People (Aileen Campbell)
SNP
Maria Montessori said that “Play is the work of the child.” If we are a country that truly wants to become the best place to grow up in, we need to become a ...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
On the UNCRC, is the minister still considering changing the wording in the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill to “having due regard to” as opposed to...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
The Education and Culture Committee has taken a lot of evidence on that, and the process will be on-going through the stages of the bill. We are certainly ve...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
SNP
Does the minister take a view on the prevalence of “No ball games” signs in many areas, which often act as a deterrent to outdoor play for children and which...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
Absolutely. As I said, people should view open spaces as being equally for the benefit of children across the country and should allow children to access the...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
I doubt that anybody will quibble with the central ethos of the play strategy that we are debating this afternoon, as it goes without saying that play is par...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
I take on board Liz Smith’s points. I know that we have an ideological difference when it comes to the approaches in the bill, but she is keen on culture cha...
Liz Smith
Con
I thank the minister. I do not disagree with that. There are some deep-seated issues, and I heard the minister say earlier that she believes that in some sit...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to open for the Labour Party in this debate and to welcome the publication of the Scottish Government’s play strategy and action plan. I have wo...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
I made it clear in my opening speech that the strategy was not just about the play sector but about bringing lots of different departments together. For exam...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
I must ask Jayne Baxter to draw to a close.
Jayne Baxter
Lab
Okay. I thank the minister for her comments.There are some big aspirations in the action plan, and I hope that the minister will return to the chamber in the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
We now come to the open debate. I remind members that if they wish to speak in the debate, they should press their request-to-speak buttons. That is particul...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome this debate and the Government’s play strategy action plan. The Scottish Government says that it wants Scotland to be the best place in the world t...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
I thank the minister for bringing this debate to the chamber, and particularly for her excellent timing. I do not imagine that I am the only one here who wil...
Liz Smith
Con
Ken Macintosh has made an exceptionally valid point. Does he agree that we should be concerned when what I would call common sense about some children’s play...
Ken Macintosh
Lab
I entirely agree with that point, and I might get the chance later to talk about the risk-averse culture. Yes, there are stories of people banning conkers an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I remind members that speeches should be of six minutes. I call Mark McDonald, to be followed by James Dornan.15:17
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
SNP
On 7 August, part of the city centre of Aberdeen was essentially turned into a playground, with 250 to 300 children participating in the Aberdeen national pl...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
SNP
There is no doubt that there are clear long-term economic and social benefits attached to play, and that investing in children’s play is one of the most impo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Before Christian Allard begins, I remind members to address one other by their full names, not only because that is required by protocol, but because it make...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome the Scottish Government’s action plan. We judge a society by how it looks after its children. As many members have mentioned, we have a lot to lear...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to contribute to this important debate on the Scottish Government’s play strategy and the wider efforts that are being made to ensure that Scotl...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
SNP
It is extremely important that the minister talked about the fact that article 31 of the UNCRC mentions that every child has the right to play. That is the r...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
It is too easy to dismiss play as a trivial activity for children. The reality is that play is about much more than just having fun. Like many other members,...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Like all my colleagues in the chamber, I fully support the development of a national play strategy. Play and recreation are essential to the health and wellb...
Aileen Campbell
SNP
I have a constructive point to make. I hope that Mary Fee would welcome the early years task force, which is the group that administers the change fund. Fami...
Mary Fee
Lab
I thank the minister for that clarity. Those families are an important section of society, and I am pleased that they will not be overlooked.I fully support ...
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I support the play strategy, as a father and grandfather. My grandson Ruaridh is now a year and a half old, and he teaches his grandfather how to play—of cou...