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Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:18
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.17:31The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00346, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on committee membership, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament agrees the membership of committees of the Parliament as follows—Climate Action Committ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, as amended, is: For 67, Against 25, Abstentions 26.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament welcomes that the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Baillie, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
David Green (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am sorry—I could not connect to the voting app. I would have abstained.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The sixth question is, that motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.1, in the name of David Green, is: For 36, Against 67, Abstentions 16.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Briggs, Miles (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Con)Carson, Finlay (Galloway and Wes...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote will be recorded.
Duncan Dunlop (South Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I apologise—my vote was not recorded. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The fifth question is, that amendment S7M-00309.1, in the name of David Green, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.5, in the name of Murdo Fraser, is: For 26, Against 91, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Briggs, Miles (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Con)Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)Currie, Victor (Highlands and Is...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.5, in the name of Murdo Fraser, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.2, in the name of Lorna Slater, is: For 66, Against 27, Abstentions 26.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.2, in the name of Lorna Slater, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.4, in the name of Malcolm Offord, is: For 17, Against 92, Abstentions 9.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Currie, Victor (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Kerr, Thomas (Glasgow) (Reform)Kirkwood, David (South Scotland) (Reform)Langan, Jam...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Malcolm Offord is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Murdo Fraser will fall.The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.4, in the name of Malcolm Offord, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan M...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, is: For 94, Against 15, Abstentions 9.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Baillie, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Okay, thank you.
Lorna Slater (Edinburgh Central) (Green) Green Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
My apologies, Presiding Officer. That was left over from when the app was not working.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We come to the vote on amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee. Members should cast their vote now.The vote is closed.We have a point of order from Lorna Slater.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:18Meeting suspended.17:21On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are seven questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
I hate to disappoint Ivan McKee, but his speech was not the last speech before the world cup. I will also undoubtedly disappoint other members given that we are looking to get out, but I will not take too long.Members will be aware that standing orders require the Parliamentar...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
Go on—why not?
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Jamie Hepburn) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
I will move and speak to the motion, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
The next item of business is consideration of Parliamentary Bureau motion S7M-00346, on committee membership. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move the motion.17:16
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
That concludes the debate on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Does Mr Kerr want to intervene? I will get the time back, so I am happy to take his point. No, he does not. Okay.We have already saved more than £50 million on estates. I thought that it was 12, but we have now, in fact, shut 13 Scottish Government buildings. Murdo Fraser has ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Mr Kerr, you know to try to intervene rather than to attack from a sedentary position.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I think that the confusion is more broad. The Reform manifesto talks about getting rid of all 130 public bodies—or “quangos”, as they call them. However, there is also a recognition from across the Reform benches that those public bodies—whether Police Scotland, the court syst...
Victor Currie (Highlands and Islands) (Reform) Reform Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Does the cabinet secretary recall that Max Bannerman’s point on community wind farms was that they do not rely on subsidies? Therefore, it forms no contradiction in Reform policy on our opposition to net zero.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Yes. David Barratt also draws out the important point that the inconsistency in the Reform position is quite apparent. Reform members say in their amendment that we should not be talking about this stuff, and then they go on to talk about it from very different and contradicto...
David Barratt SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
—renewable energy schemes and for community-owned wind. Does the cabinet secretary agree that that is not the kind of reform that we need?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Hello. It is not a speech within a speech. It is an intervention.
David Barratt SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
In moving the Reform amendment, Malcolm Offord stated that the Scottish Government should have no remit on net zero and energy, and he suggested cutting public bodies that are responsible for related areas. In contrast, Max Bannerman noted the value of community wind power in ...
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I will take David Barratt’s intervention, and then I will go on to talk about those other contributions.
David Barratt (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
In principle, we need stability of funding and to recognise the great work that happens in community organisations, which I see every week in my constituency. That work is absolutely critical, because those organisations are, to a large extent, the front line, and their abilit...
Bob Doris SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I commend the comments on the third sector that we have heard in the chamber this afternoon. I draw the cabinet secretary’s attention to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee’s report on funding of the third and voluntary sectors, and I highlight the longer-term fun...
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
On reflection, I am happy with the extent of the contributions that we have heard this afternoon. As I indicated at the outset, I was keen to hear from members, and that is what has happened for the most part. I will try to pick my way through the mind map that I have in front...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Before I call the cabinet secretary, I say to members that, if they seek to make an intervention, they should remember to stand up and ask to make an intervention. I notice that buttons are pressed but, sometimes, the speakers do not see who is trying to intervene.17:05
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
We move to the open debate.15:58
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I congratulate Ivan McKee—I will call him super Ivan, given the scale of his task, based on his speech and the vision that he has set out today.From listening to colleagues from across the chamber, I am struck that there is a lot of common ground here, and I think that we need...
David Green (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I begin by welcoming the cabinet secretary to his new role and wishing him well. As we have already heard, Mr McKee has been handed what might become the defining task of this Government, which is tackling the £5 billion black hole in Scotland’s finances. As Murdo Fraser has j...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I call Murdo Fraser, who joins us online.15:47
Michael Marra Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I point gently to the fact that Alyn Smith’s party had an outright majority in the Parliament for one of those parliamentary sessions, so not having had the numbers is not a foolproof excuse.Alyn Smith will find common ground across different areas. My note of caution to him w...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I should explain that I am having to contribute remotely today due to a family issue; otherwise, I would be in the chamber.I welcome Ivan McKee to his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Public Service Reform. I know that he is keen to dispel the notion that he is here as an axe...
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Meeting of the Parliament 22 January 2014

22 Jan 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill: Stage 1
Swinney, John SNP Perthshire North Watch on SPTV
We have been through such questions before with Mr Brown. He fails to take into account the fact that there is natural inflation in all the costs that we wrestle with as a Government. In terms of giving a like-for-like comparison of the resources under the control of the Scottish Government—the things that we can control and decide on to afford the priorities of the people of Scotland—the fiscal DEL budget has been cut, in real terms, by 11.1 per cent between 2010-11 and 2015-16. That is the reality of the financial situation that the Scottish Government faces.

We are seeing real-terms cuts of 2.3 per cent a year from March 2011 to March 2016 and we now know that the chancellor plans a further £25 billion of cuts to come from 2016 onwards. That assumption by the chancellor was greeted by the Deputy Prime Minister as a strategy founded on a “monumental mistake”. That is what the coalition partners think of Gavin Brown and his colleagues’ direction of travel. That approach compounds the macroeconomic failures of the coalition. United Kingdom Government borrowing between 2011-12 and 2015-16 is expected to be £197 billion more than originally forecast in June 2010.

As welcome as the £300 million of Barnett consequentials allocated in the chancellor’s autumn statement are, not all of them enhance the Scottish Government’s spending power and they account for a mere fraction of the amount that Scotland’s budget has been reduced by since 2010.

No one in the chamber should be in any doubt about two points: first, that significantly less money, in real terms, has been allocated to Scotland than at any point since devolution; and, secondly, that in those circumstances we are ensuring that the maximum impact is generated from the spending priorities that we settle on as a Government.

Since 2007, this Government and our public services have focused on creating a more successful country, with opportunities for all of Scotland to flourish, through increasing sustainable economic growth. Our budget sets out our actions to deliver on that purpose through supporting economic recovery while creating jobs and new opportunities through the transition to a low-carbon economy; maintaining our commitment to a social wage for the people of Scotland; and protecting our public services by taking forward an ambitious programme of public service reform, driving a decisive shift in resources to preventative approaches and delivering improved outcomes for people and communities.

As the Government’s chief economist noted in his most recent “State of the Economy” report, economic recovery in Scotland has continued through 2013 and Scotland has now seen its sixth consecutive quarter of growth. The recent growth performance has moved Scotland’s economy closer to 2008 levels, so that Scotland is now only 0.9 per cent below our pre-recession peak in output, whereas the United Kingdom is 1.9 per cent below that level.

Statistics that came out this morning highlight that Scotland continues to be the best performing of the four nations in the UK on employment and unemployment. Consistent increases in employment levels show that the policies of the Scottish Government to create jobs and boost the economy are making progress, but we know that the recovery is fragile and needs continual support.

We have consistently recognised the importance of infrastructure investment by the public and private sectors in increasing the momentum of the recovery. The budget confirms that we will secure more than £8 billion of investment in Scotland’s infrastructure over the next two years, which will be used to build homes, schools, colleges, hospitals and transport links. As part of that, investment to support sustainable and active travel will be increased to around £60 million over the period of the spending announcements.

On Monday, I was privileged to see the construction that is under way of the new Inverness College, and yesterday I saw the progress that is being made on City of Glasgow College, where £228 million of investment will create 170 jobs over the life of the contract and will deliver a centre of excellence for skills development in the city for many years to come.

We will continue to fund a record number of modern apprenticeships, including 40 at City of Glasgow College, which I visited yesterday, and will maintain our commitment to opportunities for all, which guarantees that those who are aged between 16 and 19 and who are not in work can obtain the support that they need to progress their journey back into employment.

Although this morning’s statistics confirm that the youth labour market in Scotland is performing strongly—we have a higher youth employment rate, a lower unemployment rate and a lower economic inactivity rate than the UK does—we are considering closely the recommendations of the Wood review on developing Scotland’s young workforce to ensure that our education system continues to deliver the skills that employers need.

The draft budget delivered the most generous package of business rates relief in the UK, which was worth more than £570 million a year at the time and included support for more than 92,000 business properties through the small business bonus scheme. In December, I announced that we would allocate £38.5 million in both 2014-15 and 2015-16 to cap the business rate poundage at 2 per cent and to extend eligibility for the small business bonus scheme. That will extend the benefit of the scheme to 4,000 additional properties, leave an eligible Scottish business up to £3,080 better off than its competitors in England and ensure that Scotland continues to be the most competitive place in the UK to do business. That measure has been included in the Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill and the Parliament will vote on it today as part of the bill’s provisions.

In addition, we are acting to protect and reform our public services. We value a national health service that is publicly owned and a local government that is properly funded, which is why the budget again delivers on our commitment to pass on the full Barnett consequentials to the NHS in Scotland and continues to prioritise local government funding, in contrast to the approach that the UK Government has adopted.

We have also ensured, through our reform of the fire and police services, that we will maintain 1,000 additional police on the streets, and from 2015-16, the Public Bodies (Joint Working) (Scotland) Bill will drive the delivery of joined-up, high-quality and sustainable health and social care provision in Scotland.

With that in mind, the budget maintains our commitment to the three change funds in 2014-15 and will allocate funding of £120 million in 2015-16 to support national health service boards, local authorities, the third sector and other partners in delivering better integrated health and social care provision and to fund national initiatives into the bargain.

Investing in and improving crucial public services can bring significant benefits to our economy. The draft budget in September provided more than £190 million of investment over the next two years to increase early learning and childcare provision to 600 hours a year for three and four-year-olds and the most vulnerable two-year-olds, saving families around £700 a year. That investment will fund the commitment in the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill and increase available childcare from the 412 hours a year that we inherited in 2007. High-quality childcare can make a huge difference to outcomes, both in the life of a young child and in their parents’ ability to participate fully in the economy through work or training. That is why when the financial opportunity to extend the provision became available the First Minister announced plans to extend the provision to two-year-olds in households where parents are looking for work.

To maintain the quality of childcare, we are also investing £3.5 million in supporting around 2,000 new jobs and enhancing the skills of our childcare workforce. The bill allocates the funding for that expansion.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08794, in the name of John Swinney, on the Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill. 14:40
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney) SNP
Last week, I introduced the Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill for 2014-15, which will give effect to the draft budget that I set out in September last year and t...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
In cash terms, has total Scottish Government spend ever been higher?
John Swinney SNP
We have been through such questions before with Mr Brown. He fails to take into account the fact that there is natural inflation in all the costs that we wre...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
As the cabinet secretary knows, we welcome the investment in two-year-olds as well as three and four-year-olds. I know that he has plans for the following fi...
John Swinney SNP
The Government has made absolutely clear its commitment to expanding the availability of childcare. In “Scotland’s Future”, we set out an ambition that it is...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Our criticism of the budget that is before us, ever since it was published in draft, has been consistently less about what can be seen in it and more about w...
John Swinney SNP
Would Iain Gray accept that if I had followed the approach that he is talking about, I would have had to allow business rates in Scotland to increase and fre...
Iain Gray Lab
We certainly argued that, given the choice between two good things—the free school meals and the increase in childcare—we would have preferred to prioritise ...
John Swinney SNP
I agree with Mr Gray about the iniquity of the bedroom tax, but why is he in cahoots with the Conservatives and the Liberals in the better together campaign,...
Iain Gray Lab
Let me come to agreement and disagreement across the chamber on that.Protecting tenants would be a start, which is why Jackie Baillie has a bill before the P...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Iain Gray Lab
No, I am sorry.Local authorities have seen rent arrears soar, which means cuts elsewhere in already stretched services. The consequences for housing associat...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will Mr Gray give way?
Iain Gray Lab
No, I am sorry. I need to get on to the point that Mr Swinney raised. I will get to it.However, at least half of the households affected are getting no help ...
John Swinney SNP
Can Mr Gray take this opportunity to explain to the Parliament the mechanism that would allow us to pay that additional resource to the individuals to remove...
Iain Gray Lab
I will come to that.We believe that Mr Swinney could do more. In December and again today Mr Swinney argued that he has gone as far as he can under UK legisl...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Iain Gray Lab
No, I am sorry.We even have the Under-Secretary of State for Scotland assuring us publicly that the Scottish Government can fully mitigate the impact of the ...
John Swinney SNP
Oh, well. There we are, then.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order, please. Interventions are best not made from a sedentary position.
Iain Gray Lab
We should do that, because the truth is that the Labour benches and the Government benches agree on the matter. We agree that the bedroom tax is iniquitous. ...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
It is often worth looking at what happened in the equivalent debate a year ago, so yesterday I looked at the stage 1 debate on last year’s budget bill. The S...
John Swinney SNP
What Mr Brown has to do to complete his explanation of what happened is to refer to the fact that the amount of borrowing that the UK Government is having to...
Gavin Brown Con
I am not sure that Mr Swinney added much to the Scottish Government’s case with that particular speech. On the point about borrowing, he completely ignores t...
The First Minister (Alex Salmond) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Gavin Brown Con
I will in a minute.In 2008-09, according to the Scottish Government’s own budget—I say to Mr Swinney that it is on page 189—it had £31.9 billion to spend. In...
The First Minister SNP
I admire Mr Brown for wishing away inflation, which he constantly does to try to make his point. I will pursue Mr Swinney’s point about whether the UK Govern...
Gavin Brown Con
I know that the First Minister likes to filibuster during First Minister’s question time, but now he is filibustering during Opposition speeches—good grief. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Could we have a little bit of order, please?