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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.18:01Members’ business will be published tomorrow, 11 June 2026, as soon as the text is available.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, is: For 55, Against 68, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We move to the vote on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:53Meeting suspended.17:55On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business.I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Jamie Hepburn is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Ross Greer will fall.The first question is, that amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepbu...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:53
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S7M-00301, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme.Motion moved,That the Parliament agrees—(a) the following programme of business—Tuesday 16 June 20262....
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
17:52
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That concludes the debate on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics.
Jackie Baillie Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister misunderstands and is clearly not listening. The people of Scotland are interested in those wider questions, but that is not what I am suggesting the inquiry should do. I have been very clear on that point.Let me go back to what Robin McAlpine had to say about dem...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I find it interesting that, although Ms Baillie said that it is not for others to take an interest in the SNP’s internal affairs, she is now talking extensively about the appointment of a KC and the thin nature of our internal governance review. It seems that she is taking an ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The key and absolute qualification for any First Minister of Scotland is that“that individual must be able to command the trust of the Parliament and the public.”—Official Report, 28 November 2001; c 4118.Those are not my words but those of John Swinney and, on that point, we ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, I do not, so let us move on.The point that I was going to make was one that I made earlier: it is important that, as an institution, we focus on matters that are of primary interest and of paramount importance to the people of Scotland. Instead of raising issues like this,...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I remember how sleazy, arrogant and entitled Labour became when it dominated Scottish politics. Does the minister see that at all in his party?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way to Mr Findlay.
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
: —that the SNP has won five elections in a row. It has earned the trust of the people for five elections in a row. It is just a matter of fact—there is no arrogance about it; it is just a reality.I think that it is important that we—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Please speak through the chair.
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It was the mindset that Murrell had.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It is not a mindset but a matter of fact—
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is your mindset.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
There are two things there. First, the public can be confident that the crime that has been perpetrated has been fully investigated and prosecuted and there is now a plea. I do not think that any of us is suggesting that there is a lack of confidence in that process—I certainl...
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is a very generous offer, but I will have to decline.The minister is talking about the SNP investigating itself. How does that improve the confidence of the public in the Government party in this country?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I do not think that Mr Rennie is one of those SNP members, but maybe he wants to apply to join—we might let him come on board.I will give way one more time, to Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister does not want to accept questions coming from other parts of the chamber. Does he accept that questions are also coming from people who served his party, both in the NEC and in Parliaments? Those people are saying that blocks and obstructions were put in the way o...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way one more time.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That was a wonderful pre-prepared line delivered tremendously well, Ms Lindsay. We look forward to much more of that.The past few weeks have been uncomfortable, difficult and very distressing for many of us—I will not pretend otherwise. No one would believe me if I did. Howeve...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the SNP lecturing Reform on sleaze is like Lord Mandelson selling ethics lessons. No one is buying it.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I say to Amanda Lindsay that I might take more seriously the notion that my party operated like a syndicate if her party was not one that had been formed as a private limited company that is owned by one individual. Let us just remember where we are all starting from. Interrup...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Yet, when it comes to holding one of its own to account for embezzling party funds, the urgency mysteriously disappears.Meanwhile, Scottish Labour, which called this debate, might want to reflect on its party’s sleazy history. After all, its hero, Lord Mandelson, was twice for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The member must be heard.
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Instead of full transparency, we have had silence, deflection and obstruction. The First Minister likes to lecture others about integrity, yet he still refuses to put country before party. If he truly believes in restoring public trust, he must stop hiding behind lawyers and f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, no, minister. The member does not have to take interventions.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Ah, come on!
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Forgive me, but I wish to make progress.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Amanda Lindsay (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I support this debate and back calls for a full parliamentary inquiry into the shocking embezzlement of party funds by Peter Murrell.The Scottish people deserve the truth. For years, the SNP has presented itself as a slick, professional political machine. In reality, it has op...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I think that Anas Sarwar would be horrified if a former or a current leader of a political party told its members how they should vote on a committee decision. Interruption. That is for committees to decide, and I am not going to instruct any—Interruption. Look at him laughing...
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Mr Harvie says that committees in this Parliament could investigate certain prosecutions. To clarify, if a motion came to the justice committee, would his party support such an investigation by the justice committee?
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I beg your pardon, Presiding Officer. I was just discovering how much some speeches improve when I remove my hearing aids.Sadly, today, we have very much seen the debate that I expected. There has been some opportunistic partisanship dressed up as principled concern, and there...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 September 2013

25 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
University of Edinburgh
I congratulate Jim Eadie on the motion and I declare an interest as I, too, am a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. To extend a metaphor that was used earlier, cabinet secretaries for education cannot be entirely monogamous in their affections for universities, but I have the strongest affection for the University of Edinburgh and its achievements, on which I congratulate it.

I entered freshers week at the university 43 years ago this week. Last night, when I was walking along Holyrood Road, I saw a number of freshers wandering around and I wondered what their experience of this great university is, particularly as it has grown and changed so much. I was struck by the point that was made about investment in the university, which has come from the university’s resources and from other assistance over a period.

Last night, I was in the remarkable Inspace building, which is used to encourage and develop new technologies. As various members have said, the university has a remarkable track record of taking ideas and ensuring that they work and that they work in the marketplace. That knowledge exchange work, which Kezia Dugdale mentioned, is important.

The Scottish Government made a commitment to ensure that a single knowledge exchange office is developed in Scotland and I will shortly say more about that, but we also want to protect the good work that is already done. We should not put in a single monolith, and Edinburgh is an exceptional university for knowledge exchange. Just two weeks ago, I met some of the people who are involved in that.

Before going into the substance of my speech, I will respond to a couple of points that have been made. I am happy to take Aileen McLeod’s point and to talk to David Willetts about the KIC project. I think that we have already been in touch about how to take that forward, and I always try to work with others to project the future and the work of Scottish universities on the international stage.

Kezia Dugdale made important points about how things should work in universities and about ranking systems. There is a range of ranking systems in the world. Next week, the Times Higher Education rankings will be announced. The QS rankings use a scoring system that allocates 40 per cent to academic reputation, 20 per cent to the faculty to student ratio, 20 per cent to citations per faculty, 10 per cent to employer reputation, 5 per cent to the international faculty ratio and 5 per cent to the international student ratio. There is a range of other systems, which weight other factors.

I am certainly intrigued by the good idea that widening access should count as an important feature of a university, as it relates to how a university develops and extends itself. Of course, Edinburgh has a good story to tell on that. This year, it has 50 more widening access places than it previously had, which it is filling. In 2012-13, it awarded 158 access bursaries to Scotland-domiciled new entrants. If widening access was a feature of rankings—it would be interesting to try to persuade a rankings system to take that on—Edinburgh would continue to compete.

We should look at the continuation of competition. The outcome agreement process that the Scottish Government has established with universities considers how each university should perform. The University of Edinburgh’s 2013-14 agreement says:

“Analysis of the rankings”—

that is, looking at the progress that the university has made—

“indicates that this level of investment”—

the global excellence investment, which is a new form of investment that is designed to encourage research and internationalisation—

“in addition to other strategies already in train, should move Edinburgh into the top 15 in the QS world rankings.”

Gavin Brown pointed out the progress that is being made. We should remain ambitious, to ensure that all our universities continue to progress in that way. All the world ranking systems are not the only judge of a university; there are other ways to judge them, such as on the quality that students find in a university and the contribution that it makes to the setting in which it lives—for Edinburgh, that is the city and the wider country.

The access issues are intriguing, but we must ensure that competition continues, because that draws students to us. The activity is international and global. It is also very valuable to Scotland as a country. Higher education is the third-largest sector in our economy, which is an extraordinary thought. I know that Gavin Brown always questions figures that are given in the chamber and particularly those from the Government front bench, but my source is a Universities Scotland report. Higher education is also an enormous exporting activity. Universities are estimated to leverage £1.3 billion into the Scottish economy from sources outside Scotland.

I congratulate Edinburgh on what it has done. It has a wonderful and rich history. As Jim Eadie pointed out, it is the place of Hutton. When we look up through the window that is to my left, we can see Hutton’s stone on Salisbury Crags. It is the foundation of world geology and the place that proved that two geological theories went together.

Of course, Edinburgh is the place where many other things have happened. Dolly the sheep and the Higgs boson have been mentioned. Nobody has mentioned that Edinburgh is the last university in these islands that had a student executed for heresy, but we should probably gloss over that.

In history, in English literature, as Malcolm Chisholm pointed out, in medicine, in veterinary medicine and in a variety of other fields, including in the area that I studied—Scottish studies, Scottish literature and Scottish history—Edinburgh has been groundbreaking and has had tremendous success in teaching and in research. Jim Eadie made that point forcibly and it should be made again: all our universities in Scotland are universities both for teaching and for research. Keeping those two things together, making sure that one feeds the other and, in particular, encouraging the growth of postgraduate research and teaching in our universities is the way forward.

This Government has increased investments for university research and knowledge exchange activities. This year we put in place the global excellence initiative with Edinburgh and—I say to Mr Malik—with Glasgow. Edinburgh and Glasgow are matching with their own fundraising in order to drive themselves forward in the international rankings. The University of Glasgow rose three places in the QS to 51, the University of St Andrews rose 10 places to 83 and the University of Aberdeen climbed 14 places to 148, so, including Edinburgh, those four universities are in the top 200 in the world. That is a unique achievement because Scotland has, per head of population, the largest number of universities in the top league in the world. That is remarkable for a nation of 5 million people.

Edinburgh has been called the capital of the mind and it is a place—and we have a country—that values learning. Learning, to some extent, is in our DNA. That is proved by the excellence of our universities. It is also proved by the way in which the universities are attracting investment from places outside Scotland. I opened the Fraunhofer centre for applied photonics at the University of Strathclyde—the first Fraunhofer centre in these islands. That is one example out of many of the type of investment that is taking place and will continue to take place in Scotland.

Universities are growing; universities are exporting; universities are increasingly attractive. The universities are driving our economy. Edinburgh is at the forefront of that. It is a wonderful university to attend, as so many young people—and older people—will discover this week as they enrol for the first time. We should, in the chamber, celebrate the success of Scottish institutions. They are founded upon the principle of education being based on the ability to learn, not on the ability to pay, and long may that flourish in our country.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-07675, in the name of Jim Eadie, on the University of Edinburgh in the world’s top 20....
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to have the opportunity to introduce the debate to Parliament this evening, and I am grateful to all those members who supported the motion in...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Jim Eadie on lodging this important motion and, of course, the University of Edinburgh on achieving top 20 status in the world rankings. Mr Ea...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
I have a strict four minutes, so I cannot really take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Go on—take an intervention.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
Okay then.
Joan McAlpine SNP
On the subject of commercialisation, the member will be aware that Scotland’s fourth leading university, Heriot-Watt University, hosted the converge challeng...
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
I thank Joan McAlpine for that very useful contribution.Going back to my last point, I was pleased, however, by Scottish Enterprise’s plans to open innovatio...
Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) SNP
We each choose for ourselves our own yardsticks of success in our lives. All Edinburgh’s universities excel in their own chosen mission. Edinburgh Napier Uni...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
I congratulate Jim Eadie on securing the debate and giving a particularly interesting speech on the history of the University of Edinburgh. Marco Biagi talke...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Due to the number of members who still wish to speak in the debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice under rule 8.14.3, to extend the debate by ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, congratulate Jim Eadie on bringing the debate to the chamber. I thank him for doing so because it gives us the chance to talk about the success that ...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
I apologise to Jim Eadie and the other members in the chamber that I will not be able to stay for the remainder of the speeches due to another engagement.I, ...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Jim Eadie on securing this debate on the University of Edinburgh’s great achievement, and I thank him for bringing it to Parliament.I am proud...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell) SNP
The interpretation of waiting lists is very important. If what Hanzala Malik says is the case, I am surprised that he has not been in touch with me directly ...
Hanzala Malik Lab
I did not want to go into great detail on that topic today, because I want to discuss the positive side of education. However, out of courtesy, I am happy to...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I would be grateful if, in the time that is remaining, you would confine your remarks to the University of Edinburgh.
Hanzala Malik Lab
Yes, of course, Presiding Officer. I did not really want to get drawn into that issue—that was a passing remark on something that affects higher education.On...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank Jim Eadie for bringing the debate to the chamber, and I thank and congratulate all those whose hard work is recognised in this ranking.I am very prou...
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, congratulate my colleague Jim Eadie on securing the debate and ensuring that the University of Edinburgh is in no doubt about our support and our gra...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Like others, I congratulate Jim Eadie on hosting the debate and, given that we are still here at 10 minutes to 6, providing an opportunity for so many people...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell) SNP
I congratulate Jim Eadie on the motion and I declare an interest as I, too, am a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. To extend a metaphor that was used ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. I declare my interest as a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. I, too, wish to add my congratulations to the University of Edinburgh and I ...