Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2013
10 Dec 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Youth Sport Strategy
I have an interest to declare—I am the Parliament’s one qualified specialist PE teacher. I might have two sticks these days, but I would not even be going around on two sticks if I had not qualified in PE.
Although I greatly appreciate the work that the minister has done in promoting the additional modules of PE for general teachers at training colleges, nothing will beat a PE specialist and no money should ever be saved by having the shortage of PE teachers that Liz Smith alluded to. We cannot expect to improve the quality of our PE without quality teaching and the in-depth knowledge that comes from specialist PE teachers.
I pay tribute to the minister, who has been really good in her post. However, she talked about the quantity of PE teaching that we now have because there are statistics to say that more kids are doing two hours of quality PE. The phrase “quality PE” trips off the tongue, but I have not yet seen a definition of it. What about the quality of the teaching? Do we know whether that is improving? We cannot possibly judge that at the moment because we do not have an even playing field.
What is the idea behind the strategy? Is it that we should be better at sport and, as a by-product, produce healthier people, or is it to have a healthier nation and to achieve that through sport? There is a difference, and the priority must be established.
Although I greatly appreciate the work that the minister has done in promoting the additional modules of PE for general teachers at training colleges, nothing will beat a PE specialist and no money should ever be saved by having the shortage of PE teachers that Liz Smith alluded to. We cannot expect to improve the quality of our PE without quality teaching and the in-depth knowledge that comes from specialist PE teachers.
I pay tribute to the minister, who has been really good in her post. However, she talked about the quantity of PE teaching that we now have because there are statistics to say that more kids are doing two hours of quality PE. The phrase “quality PE” trips off the tongue, but I have not yet seen a definition of it. What about the quality of the teaching? Do we know whether that is improving? We cannot possibly judge that at the moment because we do not have an even playing field.
What is the idea behind the strategy? Is it that we should be better at sport and, as a by-product, produce healthier people, or is it to have a healthier nation and to achieve that through sport? There is a difference, and the priority must be established.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08546, in the name of Shona Robison, on the youth sport strategy.16:59
The Minister for Commonwealth Games and Sport (Shona Robison)
SNP
I am delighted to address Parliament on “Giving children and young people a sporting chance: a draft Strategy for Scotland”, which we published yesterday.Ear...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD)
LD
I agree with the sports minister about the principle of giving young people opportunities. Does she recognise that in outlying areas an argument is being mad...
Shona Robison
SNP
I am happy to take that point on board and to give it further consideration.The draft strategy sets out in some detail what we are doing, collectively, and w...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab)
Lab
I am sure that the minister is aware, in presenting those statistics, that when the Parliament was established very few new PE teachers were being recruited....
Shona Robison
SNP
I am sure that that is true, to some extent. What is also true is that the priority that is given to PE, particularly in the primary sector, is now far more ...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
Will the minister give way?
Shona Robison
SNP
I will do so in a second. If we were to remove that resource, the quantity and quality of PE that children in primary schools get would be drastically reduce...
Liz Smith
Con
I thank the minister for that comment. Quality is extremely important. Parents want PE to be provided by qualified PE instructors. When I made a freedom of i...
Shona Robison
SNP
PE specialists have an important role to play, particularly in supporting classroom teachers and in creating links between secondary schools and their feeder...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab)
Lab
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Shona Robison
SNP
I welcome Patricia Ferguson’s comments on the role of classroom teachers. Does she not recognise the huge progress that has been made towards all schools ach...
Patricia Ferguson
Lab
Progress is always to be welcomed, but we must recognise the challenges that remain. We would be doing the young people about whom we are talking a huge diss...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
I thank the minister for writing to the relevant spokesmen in the parties back in October to ask us to give some input. I congratulate the young people who h...
Shona Robison
SNP
In the 2011 manifesto, we recognised that the classroom teacher is a key resource in delivering PE. I absolutely acknowledge that now. I hope that Liz Smith ...
Liz Smith
Con
Absolutely. I think that the two are complementary. The fact remains that specialist PE teachers were mentioned in the SNP manifesto. There must have been a ...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
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Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
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Shona Robison
SNP
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Ken Macintosh
Lab
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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
You will need to make it quickly.
Ken Macintosh
Lab
In those years, a catastrophic falling-off occurs in participation in sport, particularly among girls. It does not have to be that way. If we take the exampl...
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak and I welcome the launch of the consultation on the draft strategy. I thank the young people’s sport panel for its work an...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind)
Ind
I have an interest to declare—I am the Parliament’s one qualified specialist PE teacher. I might have two sticks these days, but I would not even be going ar...
Shona Robison
SNP
The strategy is about giving young people the core skills so that they can go on to enjoy sport, a by-product of which will be a healthier life. The quality ...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
Obviously, I am pleased to hear that.We have not yet identified a strategic way to develop sports that suit Scotland. The figures show that fewer young peopl...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Can I ask you to wind up, please?
Margo MacDonald
Ind
I have said my piece. Thank you, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
You are very welcome, Ms MacDonald.17:42
Colin Keir (Edinburgh Western) (SNP)
SNP
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