Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 09 January 2013
09 Jan 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Oil and Gas Sector
I thank the minister, Fergus Ewing, for his measured approach and commend him for his positive and constructive partnership with the Westminster Government. I am sure that the industry, too, will welcome that approach.
I was pleased to hear what Rhoda Grant said, and I support her amendment. However, I noted from the Oil & Gas UK briefing that the safety record in the North Sea is better than that of the retail industry. Therefore, I question some of the points that have been raised.
We are pleased to participate in this debate on oil and gas, and I confirm at the outset that we will support the Government’s motion and the Liberal and Labour amendments. I will leave my very capable colleague Alex Johnstone to deal with the Green amendment. That pleasure is all his.
Given that 200,000 people are employed in the oil and gas industry and that it contributes £32 billion to the United Kingdom balance of payments, it is only right that the Parliament acknowledges and values the excellent work of the sector. As a member for the Highlands and Islands, I acknowledge the sterling work that is being done at the Nigg Skills Academy.
I am old enough to remember when the oil industry started in the north-east. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the predictions were that we would be extracting oil from the North Sea for about 25 to 30 years. We are now 40 years on and we will still be taking oil and gas from the North Sea for some time to come. As Tavish Scott said, we have platforms that were built for the initial period and whose lifetime has been significantly extended. As other members have said, there have been many changes over the period. Technology has changed out of all recognition—for example, we now have horizontal drilling. In 1972, the price of oil was $3.50 a barrel, or around $18 in current prices, compared to today’s price of $111 for Brent crude.
I want to highlight some recent estimates relating to oil and gas in the North Sea. Revenues are undoubtedly difficult to predict because of erratic prices and levels of production. There have been significant recent outages, including the Elgin leak, which has resulted in production falling by more than 12 per cent. According to the centre for public policy for regions, the cumulative fall in production since 1999, which was the peak year, is now well over 60 per cent. The Office for Budget Responsibility’s North Sea tax revenue forecasts for the period post 2011-12 have almost halved in the past 18 months, although higher capital investment should help to extend production in future years.
Gas production is set to be 13.7 billion therms in 2017-18, which is a fall of 46 per cent from the 25.5 billion therms that was achieved in 2008-09. Oil and gas projections from the Treasury budget and the autumn statement clearly signal a gradual decline in total tax revenues from 2013 onwards. As a result, the current forecast for North Sea tax revenue from 2012 to 2016 is half the level that was forecast 18 months ago.
Along with the CPPR research and predictions, the work of Professor Alex Kemp at the University of Aberdeen highlights the erratic and unpredictable nature of North Sea oil and gas production. In a recent paper, he highlights the comparison between the peak of revenues of £28 billion in 1984-85 with the low of £1 billion in 1992. In the past 20 years, the average has been about £6 billion per annum. Professor Kemp estimates that there are between 11 billion and 35 billion potential barrels of oil remaining and that future tax revenues in the next decade will be about £5 billion to £10 billion per year. Of course, the £34 billion investment for decommissioning must be brought into the equation, in terms of capital infrastructure and jobs.
It is important to emphasise the figures that leading economists and research organisations have given, particularly in the lead-up to the referendum, when people across Scotland are looking for accurate figures on which to base their decisions. In February last year, the First Minister stated that there were 24 billion barrels of oil left in the North Sea—most people would agree—which he said were worth more than £1 trillion. This month, he stayed with the figure of 24 billion barrels of oil, but the value has now risen to £1.5 trillion, which is a 50 per cent increase in less than a year. I find that rather odd, given that the price of Brent crude in February last year was $121 and this month it is $111. The amount of oil in the North Sea still to be extracted remains the same and the price of oil falls by $10 a barrel over the 11-month period, yet the First Minister claims that last year’s £1 trillion-worth of oil is now worth £1.5 trillion.
I was pleased to hear what Rhoda Grant said, and I support her amendment. However, I noted from the Oil & Gas UK briefing that the safety record in the North Sea is better than that of the retail industry. Therefore, I question some of the points that have been raised.
We are pleased to participate in this debate on oil and gas, and I confirm at the outset that we will support the Government’s motion and the Liberal and Labour amendments. I will leave my very capable colleague Alex Johnstone to deal with the Green amendment. That pleasure is all his.
Given that 200,000 people are employed in the oil and gas industry and that it contributes £32 billion to the United Kingdom balance of payments, it is only right that the Parliament acknowledges and values the excellent work of the sector. As a member for the Highlands and Islands, I acknowledge the sterling work that is being done at the Nigg Skills Academy.
I am old enough to remember when the oil industry started in the north-east. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the predictions were that we would be extracting oil from the North Sea for about 25 to 30 years. We are now 40 years on and we will still be taking oil and gas from the North Sea for some time to come. As Tavish Scott said, we have platforms that were built for the initial period and whose lifetime has been significantly extended. As other members have said, there have been many changes over the period. Technology has changed out of all recognition—for example, we now have horizontal drilling. In 1972, the price of oil was $3.50 a barrel, or around $18 in current prices, compared to today’s price of $111 for Brent crude.
I want to highlight some recent estimates relating to oil and gas in the North Sea. Revenues are undoubtedly difficult to predict because of erratic prices and levels of production. There have been significant recent outages, including the Elgin leak, which has resulted in production falling by more than 12 per cent. According to the centre for public policy for regions, the cumulative fall in production since 1999, which was the peak year, is now well over 60 per cent. The Office for Budget Responsibility’s North Sea tax revenue forecasts for the period post 2011-12 have almost halved in the past 18 months, although higher capital investment should help to extend production in future years.
Gas production is set to be 13.7 billion therms in 2017-18, which is a fall of 46 per cent from the 25.5 billion therms that was achieved in 2008-09. Oil and gas projections from the Treasury budget and the autumn statement clearly signal a gradual decline in total tax revenues from 2013 onwards. As a result, the current forecast for North Sea tax revenue from 2012 to 2016 is half the level that was forecast 18 months ago.
Along with the CPPR research and predictions, the work of Professor Alex Kemp at the University of Aberdeen highlights the erratic and unpredictable nature of North Sea oil and gas production. In a recent paper, he highlights the comparison between the peak of revenues of £28 billion in 1984-85 with the low of £1 billion in 1992. In the past 20 years, the average has been about £6 billion per annum. Professor Kemp estimates that there are between 11 billion and 35 billion potential barrels of oil remaining and that future tax revenues in the next decade will be about £5 billion to £10 billion per year. Of course, the £34 billion investment for decommissioning must be brought into the equation, in terms of capital infrastructure and jobs.
It is important to emphasise the figures that leading economists and research organisations have given, particularly in the lead-up to the referendum, when people across Scotland are looking for accurate figures on which to base their decisions. In February last year, the First Minister stated that there were 24 billion barrels of oil left in the North Sea—most people would agree—which he said were worth more than £1 trillion. This month, he stayed with the figure of 24 billion barrels of oil, but the value has now risen to £1.5 trillion, which is a 50 per cent increase in less than a year. I find that rather odd, given that the price of Brent crude in February last year was $121 and this month it is $111. The amount of oil in the North Sea still to be extracted remains the same and the price of oil falls by $10 a barrel over the 11-month period, yet the First Minister claims that last year’s £1 trillion-worth of oil is now worth £1.5 trillion.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-05310, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on oil and gas—the success and opportunities. The debate is oversubsc...
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing)
SNP
I welcome the opportunity to pay tribute to and recognise the success of Scotland’s oil and gas sector. The sector is one of Scotland’s biggest economic succ...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
Will the minister say what the current rate of UK corporation tax is on oil and gas and how much revenue would be lost if a 10 per cent rate were applied?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I do not look at the figures in that way. I will deal with the tax issue in due course.Since large-scale production commenced in the North Sea in the 1970s, ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Will the minister take an intervention?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Not just yet.Linking CCS with enhanced oil recovery could accelerate its development and unlock 3 billion barrels of hard-to-reach oil—worth £190 billion—fro...
Patrick Harvie
Green
I am sure that the minister will accept that even if CCS technology can be brought to maturity, it has no effective role to play in relation to the carbon em...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
No, I do not agree with that. It will allow huge reserves of oil to be extracted, which will be hugely beneficial. Frankly, I would have thought that the Gre...
Neil Findlay
Lab
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I do not think so—I have too much to cover.We simply cannot afford to lose revenue on that scale, nor can we afford to lose the tax revenues, which I have de...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Minister, you really must draw your remarks to a close.
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Ah, well. All I can say is that that figure must increase.I have not talked about skills, but we are working on the issue as we move towards the announcement...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I am afraid that I must reiterate that we are very tight for time. I call Rhoda Grant to speak to and move amendment S4M-05310.2 in no more than 10 minutes.1...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
I pay tribute to the workers who make the oil and gas industry a success. Many of them work onshore in back-up and planning roles but, given the real persona...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I am happy to assure Rhoda Grant that, as far as decommissioning is concerned, Scotland will honour her responsibilities. On taxation, we recognise that stab...
Rhoda Grant
Lab
That proves the point about why we need stability and why the industry needs to know what the fiscal regime will be, should Scotland become independent of th...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD)
LD
I begin by agreeing with the broad tenor of the minister’s remarks and thanking Rhoda Grant for her observations on decommissioning, in particular. I agree w...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
I like to begin with a note of consensus when I can—Alex Johnstone looks sceptical already.I agree strongly with all three members who have spoken on the poi...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I know that Mr Harvie and I have different opinions on economic growth, but what would be his message to the many constituents whom I represent whose livelih...
Patrick Harvie
Green
My argument would be one of transition, not about ending an industry and putting nothing in its place. It would be about transitioning to the renewables indu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
You must close, please.
Patrick Harvie
Green
The building of a Scottish public renewables company is the best priority that we could set. What a legacy to leave for future generations.I move amendment S...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
I thank the minister, Fergus Ewing, for his measured approach and commend him for his positive and constructive partnership with the Westminster Government. ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
Yes, it is.
Mary Scanlon
Con
That is the sort of misinformation that the people of Scotland do not want in the lead-up to the referendum.
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
The member is closing.
Mary Scanlon
Con
If Mr Stevenson would be quiet, I would find it easier to concentrate on my speech, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
I am afraid that you must close, please.
Mary Scanlon
Con
In the lead-up to the referendum, it is worth noting that oil and gas revenues account for 0.7 per cent of UK gross domestic product, compared to 17.7 per ce...