Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 05 December 2012
05 Dec 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Health Service
The problem is not just bed capacity, but insufficient staff in key clinical areas. I could have spent my four minutes just reading out recent press headlines.
The symbolism in this chamber of the First Minister being dragged into the issue of the children’s ward at St John’s shows the mess that the SNP has created. The SNP’s promises on the NHS cannot be trusted. The previous health secretary, Nicola Sturgeon, was fully aware of the problems and it is Alex Neil’s job to sort them out. We are all waiting.
16:20
The symbolism in this chamber of the First Minister being dragged into the issue of the children’s ward at St John’s shows the mess that the SNP has created. The SNP’s promises on the NHS cannot be trusted. The previous health secretary, Nicola Sturgeon, was fully aware of the problems and it is Alex Neil’s job to sort them out. We are all waiting.
16:20
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-05088, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on Scotland’s health service.15:49
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to debate Scotland’s health service. We are all—rightly—proud of the national health service and we are all grateful to the dedicat...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
I call Alex Neil, who has seven minutes.15:59
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Alex Neil)
SNP
I welcome the opportunity yet again to put on record my gratitude for the dedication and commitment of NHS staff throughout Scotland and, indeed, my gratitud...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Alex Neil
SNP
I do not have much time, so I do not have time for interruptions, unfortunately.Let me make it absolutely clear that individual cases that need to be investi...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Alex Neil
SNP
I do not have time, unfortunately.I say to Jackie Baillie and other Labour members that, if we did not have to pay out £184 million for private finance initi...
Neil Findlay
Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I wonder whether you can help. The minister says that he does not have time to take an intervention. He has seven min...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
Thank you, but that is not a point of order. It is for members to decide whether to take interventions.
Alex Neil
SNP
I have so many errors to correct and so much to say that the truth is that seven minutes is not nearly enough time.Let us deal with Audit Scotland. In the Au...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Alex Neil
SNP
I have only just over a minute left.Unlike Labour, we do not have hidden waiting lists. We will not hide behind anyone. If there are problems to be solved, w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
I now call on Jackson Carlaw—five minutes, please.16:07
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
Well, ever was it thus. This is depressingly like a debate that I am sure we had within the recent memory of us all. The Labour Party throws everything at th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes. Time is tight this afternoon.16:12
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I offer my sincere thanks to all the NHS staff who were responsible for delivering what the NHS’s chief executive described in his recently published annual ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
You have one minute left.
Aileen McLeod
SNP
It has become clear in recent weeks that the SNP Government stands alone in giving those undertakings. We know that no area of universal entitlement to publi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
You must conclude.
Aileen McLeod
SNP
In conclusion, I support the amendment in Alex Neil’s name.16:16
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
In the first eight years of this Parliament, Labour allocated huge increases to health, which enabled the system to recover from the previous round of Tory c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
The member is in her last minute.
Sarah Boyack
Lab
The problem is not just bed capacity, but insufficient staff in key clinical areas. I could have spent my four minutes just reading out recent press headline...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
We talk a lot about choices during debates in this chamber. Recently, we have heard talk from Labour members—indeed, from the Labour leader—about the need to...
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Mark McDonald
SNP
I will happily hear Sarah Boyack’s point in the winding-up speeches—I have only four minutes.We need to know exactly what the Labour Party’s priorities are. ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Mark McDonald
SNP
I ask Ms Baillie to leave it to the winding-up speeches; as I said, I have only four minutes.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
We need an apology from you.