Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 September 2012
19 Sep 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Patient Care
There are undoubtedly real and pressing challenges in our national health service, which are starting to have a significant impact on patient care and patient safety. I make it clear at the outset that the work that our NHS staff do is exceptional. Whether they are doctors, nurses, our Scottish Ambulance Service staff, our technicians who work behind the scenes or our porters and cleaners, we are grateful to the entire NHS family. It is our responsibility to ensure that they are adequately resourced to do their job. We are joined in the public gallery by paramedics, by Ambulance Service staff and by Mick Conroy and Harry Donaldson from the GMB, all of whom I welcome.
Last week, the Scottish National Party rearranged the deckchairs with its ministerial reshuffle, which moved the Deputy First Minister away from health at a time of crisis for the NHS. I say with all due respect to Alex Neil that she is probably the SNP’s most talented minister. Her move to run the referendum campaign shows the SNP Government’s real priorities. Separation is its first, last and only priority.
The faces can be changed, but the feel and substance remain the same. The SNP is out of touch with people’s concerns and is putting the NHS in Scotland on pause as it obsesses about the constitution. What is required is not new faces but a new focus, new ideas and a new direction.
However, I welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing’s announcement about the sick kids hospital in Edinburgh, although it is of course five years later than promised and it does nothing to tackle the £130 million repairs backlog or the £1 billion backlog across Scotland. The hospital estate is crumbling on the SNP’s watch.
One thing is clear. The cabinet secretary needs to get a grip on his brief quickly, because while we are on pause, patient care continues to suffer, waiting times at accident and emergency departments continue to lengthen, nurses are losing their jobs and ambulance staff are expressing concern about patient safety.
If I was to construct a charge list for Alex Neil to tackle, here is what it would say: the NHS has fewer staff than at any time since 2007; the SNP is presiding over cuts of more than 5,500 staff, almost 2,500 of whom are nurses and midwives; and nursing and midwifery numbers are at a seven-year low. We cannot strip so many people out of the NHS without there being an impact on patient care.
Despite promises to protect the health budget, the SNP is cutting it by £319 million in real terms. That is a fact. Add to that the fact that inflation in the health service runs higher and the fact that prescribing budgets are already overspent at this point in the year, and it is clear that there is real downward pressure on the budget.
Patients are going without basic provisions, such as blankets—shame on the SNP and the First Minister that it took two of my constituents coming to the Parliament for them to recognise the problem and take action. Hospital inspections have thrown up some examples recently. In one case, at Glasgow royal infirmary, there was only one working shower—with no shower curtain—shared between 15 patients; in another, an elderly man was found sitting naked on his bed, in his own urine and with no screens around him, during visiting hours. Where is the patient care and dignity in that, cabinet secretary?
Patients themselves say that wards are understaffed and that patients are being moved around the hospital. Senior NHS managers—for goodness sake—have been fiddling the waiting list figures to meet targets, and as a consequence, patients have gone without the treatment that they needed and deserved.
In the cabinet secretary’s own backyard, NHS Lanarkshire has experienced huge and substantial difficulty in recruiting junior doctors, which has created problems at Monklands hospital, at Wishaw general hospital, in neonatal care and in general medicine. The problem has led to delays in assessing patients and reduced outpatient activity and has affected cover for patients who were booked in for elective procedures. The cabinet secretary cannot tell me that there is no impact on patient safety and patient care.
Local health services are increasingly under threat and closing, despite the SNP’s promises. The mental health ward at the Vale of Leven hospital has closed. The children’s ward at St John’s hospital shut for the summer. The maternity unit at Inverclyde royal hospital is threatened with closure. There are plans to close the children’s ward at the Royal Alexandra hospital in Paisley. The winds of change are coming. Health boards are having to reorganise services because they cannot run them on the current level of resources. Where in there is the concern for patient care?
Complaints about NHS Scotland are at a record high, but what do we expect, when the SNP cuts staffing, cuts nurses and cuts support to our hospitals? We cannot keep expecting the NHS to do more and more on less and less.
Last week, the Scottish National Party rearranged the deckchairs with its ministerial reshuffle, which moved the Deputy First Minister away from health at a time of crisis for the NHS. I say with all due respect to Alex Neil that she is probably the SNP’s most talented minister. Her move to run the referendum campaign shows the SNP Government’s real priorities. Separation is its first, last and only priority.
The faces can be changed, but the feel and substance remain the same. The SNP is out of touch with people’s concerns and is putting the NHS in Scotland on pause as it obsesses about the constitution. What is required is not new faces but a new focus, new ideas and a new direction.
However, I welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing’s announcement about the sick kids hospital in Edinburgh, although it is of course five years later than promised and it does nothing to tackle the £130 million repairs backlog or the £1 billion backlog across Scotland. The hospital estate is crumbling on the SNP’s watch.
One thing is clear. The cabinet secretary needs to get a grip on his brief quickly, because while we are on pause, patient care continues to suffer, waiting times at accident and emergency departments continue to lengthen, nurses are losing their jobs and ambulance staff are expressing concern about patient safety.
If I was to construct a charge list for Alex Neil to tackle, here is what it would say: the NHS has fewer staff than at any time since 2007; the SNP is presiding over cuts of more than 5,500 staff, almost 2,500 of whom are nurses and midwives; and nursing and midwifery numbers are at a seven-year low. We cannot strip so many people out of the NHS without there being an impact on patient care.
Despite promises to protect the health budget, the SNP is cutting it by £319 million in real terms. That is a fact. Add to that the fact that inflation in the health service runs higher and the fact that prescribing budgets are already overspent at this point in the year, and it is clear that there is real downward pressure on the budget.
Patients are going without basic provisions, such as blankets—shame on the SNP and the First Minister that it took two of my constituents coming to the Parliament for them to recognise the problem and take action. Hospital inspections have thrown up some examples recently. In one case, at Glasgow royal infirmary, there was only one working shower—with no shower curtain—shared between 15 patients; in another, an elderly man was found sitting naked on his bed, in his own urine and with no screens around him, during visiting hours. Where is the patient care and dignity in that, cabinet secretary?
Patients themselves say that wards are understaffed and that patients are being moved around the hospital. Senior NHS managers—for goodness sake—have been fiddling the waiting list figures to meet targets, and as a consequence, patients have gone without the treatment that they needed and deserved.
In the cabinet secretary’s own backyard, NHS Lanarkshire has experienced huge and substantial difficulty in recruiting junior doctors, which has created problems at Monklands hospital, at Wishaw general hospital, in neonatal care and in general medicine. The problem has led to delays in assessing patients and reduced outpatient activity and has affected cover for patients who were booked in for elective procedures. The cabinet secretary cannot tell me that there is no impact on patient safety and patient care.
Local health services are increasingly under threat and closing, despite the SNP’s promises. The mental health ward at the Vale of Leven hospital has closed. The children’s ward at St John’s hospital shut for the summer. The maternity unit at Inverclyde royal hospital is threatened with closure. There are plans to close the children’s ward at the Royal Alexandra hospital in Paisley. The winds of change are coming. Health boards are having to reorganise services because they cannot run them on the current level of resources. Where in there is the concern for patient care?
Complaints about NHS Scotland are at a record high, but what do we expect, when the SNP cuts staffing, cuts nurses and cuts support to our hospitals? We cannot keep expecting the NHS to do more and more on less and less.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-04161, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on patient care.I remind members who wish to speak in the debate to...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
There are undoubtedly real and pressing challenges in our national health service, which are starting to have a significant impact on patient care and patien...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Ms Baillie must recognise that there are more nurses and midwives now than there were in nine out of 10 years when Labour was in government. Is that a fact, ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am afraid that that is nonsense. The Royal College of Nursing says that the number of nurses and midwives has reduced by 2,500. It is at a seven-year low. ...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind)
Ind
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
In a second.Another paramedic described being alone with a child with a head injury and being unable to transport him to hospital because they were waiting f...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am terribly sorry, but I cannot give way to Margo MacDonald, as I have very little time.The picture is extremely worrying. The NHS is struggling—there is n...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
It is often the case that facts do not feature heavily in Labour Party contributions in its health debates. No one should be in any doubt about the Governmen...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have made clear on a number of occasions our absolute view that the NHS budget should be protected. I am disappointed that the minister still fails to unde...
Michael Matheson
SNP
Unfortunately, Jackie Baillie’s problem is that her leader overruled her at the time that we are talking about. On “Newsnight Scotland”, Iain Gray said:“We w...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
I would like to get this right. Does the Government allege that it is spending £800 million or so more on the health service than was spent on the health ser...
Michael Matheson
SNP
I can tell Margo MacDonald that, as I said, by 2014-15, we will have a record £11.6 billion going into our NHS, which is the highest amount that the NHS has ...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
We are not here to debate Wales; we are not here to debate the national health service in England; and we are not even here any longer—after six years—to deb...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I will at the end of my sentence, if I may.I do not believe for a moment that what they have been doing has been designed to undermine the NHS, but it smacks...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I am not sure that the end of the sentence was worth waiting for—
Jackson Carlaw
Con
In that case, I will move on without letting Mr Hepburn take the intervention any further.The challenge to the NHS is considerable. We know that a demographi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes, please.16:16
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I congratulate Alex Neil on his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and wish him well in taking on the portfolio. I know that, whatever co...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Aileen McLeod
SNP
If I thought for one second that the Labour Party had anything positive or constructive to say in this debate, I would gladly take an intervention from Jacki...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab)
Lab
We have heard from colleagues who have touched on a number of areas where patient care has fallen below acceptable standards. In my brief speech, I will focu...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Earlier this week, the Royal College of Nursing launched a campaign called “This is nursing”, to challenge the negative publicity about patient neglect and p...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have been in the chamber time after time when the SNP has essentially hidden behind the NHS staff. It is NHS staff who are coming to me with stories about ...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
It may be a surprise to Jackie Baillie, but we all have constituents who work in the NHS and we all hear issues of concern, which we rightly take forward. Le...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
Rather than going into the records, because we will never agree on that, could we try to find agreement on why there should be a shortfall on the wards? I sp...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I would be delighted, as always, to speak to Ms MacDonald. If she does not mind, though, I will decide on the content of my speech.I heard Jackie Baillie say...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
I will concentrate my remarks on the Scottish Ambulance Service and start by paying tribute to the excellent staff who operate our ambulances and our control...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
Rhoda Grant
Lab
I will not take an intervention, because time is very short and I have many points to make.That is not the only issue that puts patients at risk; dropped shi...