Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 September 2012
19 Sep 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rail
I checked with my council colleagues, who provided statements, but nobody had shown them the entire press release or explained to them that half of the project was being cut.
Some questions need to be answered. Transport Scotland published the Scottish ministers’ high-level output specification on 21 June. At that time, ministers had a statement of funds available. Did they know that EGIP was going to be cut and, if so, why was no statement made to Parliament in advance of recess? What is the Government’s current timescale for the Stirling-Alloa-Dunblane electrification programme and the extension northwards to Perth and Aberdeenshire? Is there any connection between the Office of Rail Regulation turning down a request for a delay in loan repayment and the cuts to the EGIP programme? Did the Government overpromise on the EGIP programme? Perhaps the minister will enlighten us in his contribution to this debate.
I move,
That the Parliament notes the announcement on 4 July 2012 by the Minister for Transport and Veterans of a revised Edinburgh Glasgow Improvement Programme (EGIP); believes that this announcement should have been made first to the Parliament rather than via a press release during the summer recess; believes that this reflects the lack of consultation and information available on the revised EGIP; understands that, among the changes, vital elements have been lost, including the cancellation or reduction of the planned electrification of various sections of railway lines, which would have improved journey times and lessened the environmental impact, as part of an overall cut of £350 million; calls on the Scottish Government to confirm who took the final decision to reduce EGIP’s budget and explain the rationale behind the changes to the original plans; recognises the concerns that have been expressed by trade unions and the business community regarding the cuts to EGIP and believes that this decision runs counter to the Scottish Government’s stated aim of investing in infrastructure to stimulate the economy and to the SNP’s 2011 manifesto commitment on EGIP, and expresses concern that, as a result of these changes, businesses, passengers and areas will lose out.
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Some questions need to be answered. Transport Scotland published the Scottish ministers’ high-level output specification on 21 June. At that time, ministers had a statement of funds available. Did they know that EGIP was going to be cut and, if so, why was no statement made to Parliament in advance of recess? What is the Government’s current timescale for the Stirling-Alloa-Dunblane electrification programme and the extension northwards to Perth and Aberdeenshire? Is there any connection between the Office of Rail Regulation turning down a request for a delay in loan repayment and the cuts to the EGIP programme? Did the Government overpromise on the EGIP programme? Perhaps the minister will enlighten us in his contribution to this debate.
I move,
That the Parliament notes the announcement on 4 July 2012 by the Minister for Transport and Veterans of a revised Edinburgh Glasgow Improvement Programme (EGIP); believes that this announcement should have been made first to the Parliament rather than via a press release during the summer recess; believes that this reflects the lack of consultation and information available on the revised EGIP; understands that, among the changes, vital elements have been lost, including the cancellation or reduction of the planned electrification of various sections of railway lines, which would have improved journey times and lessened the environmental impact, as part of an overall cut of £350 million; calls on the Scottish Government to confirm who took the final decision to reduce EGIP’s budget and explain the rationale behind the changes to the original plans; recognises the concerns that have been expressed by trade unions and the business community regarding the cuts to EGIP and believes that this decision runs counter to the Scottish Government’s stated aim of investing in infrastructure to stimulate the economy and to the SNP’s 2011 manifesto commitment on EGIP, and expresses concern that, as a result of these changes, businesses, passengers and areas will lose out.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
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Order.
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Elaine Murray
Lab
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The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown)
SNP
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Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)
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Will the minister take an intervention?
Keith Brown
SNP
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Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab)
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Keith Brown
SNP
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Order.
Keith Brown
SNP
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Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab)
Lab
Will the member give way?
Keith Brown
SNP
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Patricia Ferguson
Lab
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Keith Brown
SNP
There was no answer to the question about where the £350 million would come from. I note the member’s previous intervention in relation to this—Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Order.
Keith Brown
SNP
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Drew Smith
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention on that point?
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
The minister has made it clear that he is not taking an intervention at the moment.
Keith Brown
SNP
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Patricia Ferguson
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
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SNP
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