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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.18:01Members’ business will be published tomorrow, 11 June 2026, as soon as the text is available.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, is: For 71, Against 50, Abstentions 0.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament believes there is a need to restore publi...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
Joe Long (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Jenny Gilruth) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, is: For 53, Against 70, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAhmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)Bannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bibby, Neil...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.3, in the name of Russell Findlay, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, is: For 70, Against 53, Abstentions 0.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00294.2, in the name of Ross Greer, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, is: For 55, Against 68, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We move to the vote on amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00294, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:53Meeting suspended.17:55On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business.I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Jamie Hepburn is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Ross Greer will fall.The first question is, that amendment S7M-00294.1, in the name of Jamie Hepbu...
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:53
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S7M-00301, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme.Motion moved,That the Parliament agrees—(a) the following programme of business—Tuesday 16 June 20262....
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Business Motion
17:52
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That concludes the debate on an inquiry to restore public trust in Scottish politics.
Jackie Baillie Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister misunderstands and is clearly not listening. The people of Scotland are interested in those wider questions, but that is not what I am suggesting the inquiry should do. I have been very clear on that point.Let me go back to what Robin McAlpine had to say about dem...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I find it interesting that, although Ms Baillie said that it is not for others to take an interest in the SNP’s internal affairs, she is now talking extensively about the appointment of a KC and the thin nature of our internal governance review. It seems that she is taking an ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The key and absolute qualification for any First Minister of Scotland is that“that individual must be able to command the trust of the Parliament and the public.”—Official Report, 28 November 2001; c 4118.Those are not my words but those of John Swinney and, on that point, we ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, I do not, so let us move on.The point that I was going to make was one that I made earlier: it is important that, as an institution, we focus on matters that are of primary interest and of paramount importance to the people of Scotland. Instead of raising issues like this,...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I remember how sleazy, arrogant and entitled Labour became when it dominated Scottish politics. Does the minister see that at all in his party?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way to Mr Findlay.
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
: —that the SNP has won five elections in a row. It has earned the trust of the people for five elections in a row. It is just a matter of fact—there is no arrogance about it; it is just a reality.I think that it is important that we—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Please speak through the chair.
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It was the mindset that Murrell had.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
It is not a mindset but a matter of fact—
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is your mindset.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
There are two things there. First, the public can be confident that the crime that has been perpetrated has been fully investigated and prosecuted and there is now a plea. I do not think that any of us is suggesting that there is a lack of confidence in that process—I certainl...
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That is a very generous offer, but I will have to decline.The minister is talking about the SNP investigating itself. How does that improve the confidence of the public in the Government party in this country?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I do not think that Mr Rennie is one of those SNP members, but maybe he wants to apply to join—we might let him come on board.I will give way one more time, to Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That brings me to a point that I was going to make later, because it picks up on a point that Willie Rennie made—I see that Mr Rennie is now paying attention to me. He made the point that my party does not want to do anything in response to some of the issues that have arisen ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The minister does not want to accept questions coming from other parts of the chamber. Does he accept that questions are also coming from people who served his party, both in the NEC and in Parliaments? Those people are saying that blocks and obstructions were put in the way o...
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I will give way one more time.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
That was a wonderful pre-prepared line delivered tremendously well, Ms Lindsay. We look forward to much more of that.The past few weeks have been uncomfortable, difficult and very distressing for many of us—I will not pretend otherwise. No one would believe me if I did. Howeve...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the SNP lecturing Reform on sleaze is like Lord Mandelson selling ethics lessons. No one is buying it.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I say to Amanda Lindsay that I might take more seriously the notion that my party operated like a syndicate if her party was not one that had been formed as a private limited company that is owned by one individual. Let us just remember where we are all starting from. Interrup...
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Yet, when it comes to holding one of its own to account for embezzling party funds, the urgency mysteriously disappears.Meanwhile, Scottish Labour, which called this debate, might want to reflect on its party’s sleazy history. After all, its hero, Lord Mandelson, was twice for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
The member must be heard.
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Instead of full transparency, we have had silence, deflection and obstruction. The First Minister likes to lecture others about integrity, yet he still refuses to put country before party. If he truly believes in restoring public trust, he must stop hiding behind lawyers and f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
No, no, minister. The member does not have to take interventions.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Ah, come on!
Amanda Lindsay Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Forgive me, but I wish to make progress.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Will the member give way?
Amanda Lindsay (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I support this debate and back calls for a full parliamentary inquiry into the shocking embezzlement of party funds by Peter Murrell.The Scottish people deserve the truth. For years, the SNP has presented itself as a slick, professional political machine. In reality, it has op...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I think that Anas Sarwar would be horrified if a former or a current leader of a political party told its members how they should vote on a committee decision. Interruption. That is for committees to decide, and I am not going to instruct any—Interruption. Look at him laughing...
Anas Sarwar Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Mr Harvie says that committees in this Parliament could investigate certain prosecutions. To clarify, if a motion came to the justice committee, would his party support such an investigation by the justice committee?
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
I beg your pardon, Presiding Officer. I was just discovering how much some speeches improve when I remove my hearing aids.Sadly, today, we have very much seen the debate that I expected. There has been some opportunistic partisanship dressed up as principled concern, and there...
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Meeting of the Parliament 15 March 2012

15 Mar 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Local Government Finance (Scotland) Amendment Order 2012 [Draft]
Mackay, Derek SNP Renfrewshire North and West Watch on SPTV
The budget that the Scottish Government has delivered includes money for diversionary measures in our communities, enhanced community safety, a more efficient service that is moving towards the single police and fire service, and more than 1,000 more police officers on our streets. That compares very well with what is happening in England, for example, where there has been a reduction—not a growth—of 16,000 in the number of police officers on the streets. The Scottish National Party’s record on community safety and the police service is first class.

I am delighted to be able to inform members that all 32 local authority leaders have confirmed that their 2012-13 budgets contain the full provision to enable each of the commitments to be fulfilled. As a result of that confirmation, the order seeks approval for each local authority’s share of the £70 million that has been set aside to compensate councils for the council tax income that they have foregone as a result of their decision to freeze the council tax.

The decision to freeze the council tax and maintain police and teacher numbers will benefit every household in Scotland. There are many other examples of how local authority budget decisions will impact on various groups of people, including the allocation of money for tackling youth unemployment and poverty, as well as providing a living wage for local authority staff, and improving infrastructure in local areas. Councils are clearly focusing on contributing to economic recovery. Those steps are very welcome and will help to deliver better outcomes for people who are living and working in our communities across Scotland.

The Government’s commitment to continuing to support families in what is still a challenging financial environment is demonstrated by our on-going support for the council tax freeze. That support is vital, because it will ease the financial pressures that are being faced by households and communities, and it will stimulate our local economies, because household spending has the potential to provide a cost-effective stimulus as we work towards economic recovery. We have, of course, committed to working with local authorities to extend the council tax freeze over the lifetime of this parliamentary session. The agreement of all local authorities to extend the council tax freeze for 2012-13 means that our commitment will have saved households the length and breadth of Scotland more than £1 billion.

In England between 2008 and 2011, council tax increased by almost 9 per cent, whereas in Scotland it remained unchanged. In addition, an annual study by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy found that 43 per cent of homeowners in England will see a rise in their council tax bill next year. People in England appear to be having the worst of all worlds with deeper cuts in their council budgets and 45 per cent of all households facing higher council tax bills and other bills as a result of the United Kingdom Government’s policies. The average council tax bill for a band D property in England in 2011-12 was £1,439, which is more than £290 higher than it is in Scotland.

Since the main order was approved in February, there has been one further change in relation to the distribution of the £37.6 million for the teachers induction scheme. That funding has traditionally been held back until the number of probationary teachers who are allocated to each local authority is known, when it is distributed accordingly. Following a request from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, it has been agreed to distribute £10 million of that funding up front, and I confirm that that sum is included in the amendment order for approval. The remaining £27.6 million will be allocated later in the year.

I confirm that all 32 local authorities have now agreed to the 2013 targets of the business rates incentivisation scheme. That means that all local authorities will have the opportunity to directly benefit from maximising their existing business rate income and from growing their business tax base. Under the scheme, any council that exceeds its target will be able to retain half of the additional amount collected over and above the target figure. Equally, any council that does not reach its target will still be compensated by the Scottish Government up to the amount that is set out in the amendment order. The introduction of the business rates incentivisation scheme means, therefore, a winning, no-lose situation for councils and a potential gain for the Scottish Government and all the people of Scotland as a result of incentivising increased economic growth.

In summary, approval of the amendment order will authorise the distribution of a further £80 million to local government, to support the essential services that local authorities deliver to our communities. If all the councils had not accepted the offer, that would have undermined the constructive relationship that we have developed with our local authorities. However, they have accepted it and they have constructed their budgets in a way that contributes to the Government’s priorities, such as the preventative spend agenda.

To vote against the amendment order would be to go against the wishes of each and every local authority in Scotland and to deprive communities of £80 million of essential services, such as education, social work, police and fire services.

During questions on finance, employment and sustainable growth earlier today, James Kelly suggested that the cuts to local government were disproportionate, but they are not. I have researched the figure of 88 per cent cuts to local government. It is only possible to arrive at such a figure if £2.5 billion of Scottish Government contribution is excluded from local government spend. If James Kelly wants to ignore the £2.5 billion that is going towards local government, the figure of 88 per cent would be absolutely correct, but the £2.5 billion contribution exists in reality. It is part of a fair and decent settlement for local government. He need not take my word for it, because the president of COSLA has said that our financial deal for local government is the best possible deal under the circumstances.

On that note, I am happy to move,

That the Parliament agrees that the Local Government Finance (Scotland) Amendment Order 2012 [draft] be approved.

16:37

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02336, in the name of Derek Mackay, on the draft Local Government Finance (Scotland) Amendment Order 2012...
The Minister for Local Government and Planning (Derek Mackay) SNP
On 9 February, Parliament approved the Local Government Finance (Scotland) Order 2012, which enables Scotland’s local authorities to set their revenue budget...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I note that one of the commitments was about police officer numbers. Does the minister accept that although that commitment might have been delivered, as we ...
Derek Mackay SNP
The budget that the Scottish Government has delivered includes money for diversionary measures in our communities, enhanced community safety, a more efficien...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
Let me make it clear from the outset that the Labour Party will support the amendment order at 5 o’clock. We have to accept that council leaders have been pu...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
Not for the moment.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I did not think that he would.
James Kelly Lab
I would be happy to take an intervention once I have developed my argument.I want to explain a few home truths about the settlement and the SNP’s attitude to...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
Not for the moment.The £70 million has not increased in the five years since the SNP came to power, so inflation has not been taken into account. Moreover, a...
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
Let me finish this point. On the agreement on police officer numbers, the SNP is playing a numbers game in which, while the numbers are being maintained, the...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
I am very pleased that crime is at a 35-year low and that the streets of Dundee are the safest that they have been in decades.Mr Kelly referred to strings be...
James Kelly Lab
In relation to the impact on front-line services, 89 per cent of the cuts in the current budget have been passed to local government: £658 million of the tot...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Mr Kelly give way?
James Kelly Lab
Let me finish my point.That point was reinforced only this morning in a report by the Accounts Commission, which drew attention to the fact that, based on th...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Kelly, I cannot give you additional time for taking interventions.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank Mr Kelly for giving away—rather, giving way and giving away nothing, come to think of it.Why have Labour leaders of councils across the country accep...
James Kelly Lab
Mr Stewart must look at the practical effects of the SNP budget on the ground. We saw in statistics that were published only yesterday that there have been 6...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
I have already given way to Mr FitzPatrick.The reality of the budget cuts is that bus services are being cut and pensioners are not able to get out and reach...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Can we settle down, please?
James Kelly Lab
They are getting a bit excited, Presiding Officer.We are moving towards the local elections campaign and the single-issue campaigners on the SNP benches will...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You need to wind up, Mr Kelly.
James Kelly Lab
We look forward to the elections and to building hope and defending jobs and services.16:43
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The Local Government Finance (Scotland) Amendment Order 2012 acts as an amending instrument to the Local Government Finance (Scotland) Order 2012, which was ...
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP
The settlement is good news for Scotland’s local authorities. It completes the funding for the delivery of vital services that the people of Scotland deserve...
James Kelly Lab
Does Mr FitzPatrick accept that his Government has doubled the cut from Westminster in the cut that it has passed on to local councils? I repeat that there a...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
No, I do not accept that—Mr Kelly is wrong. Just about every member of the Parliament agrees that health spending should be protected, although there is deba...