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Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
17:18
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
That concludes decision time.17:31The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The final question is, that motion S7M-00346, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on committee membership, be agreed to.Motion agreed to,That the Parliament agrees the membership of committees of the Parliament as follows—Climate Action Committ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, as amended, is: For 67, Against 25, Abstentions 26.Motion, as amended, agreed to,That the Parliament welcomes that the...
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Baillie, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote has been recorded.
David Green (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am sorry—I could not connect to the voting app. I would have abstained.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The sixth question is, that motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.1, in the name of David Green, is: For 36, Against 67, Abstentions 16.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Baxter, Andrew (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Briggs, Miles (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Con)Carson, Finlay (Galloway and Wes...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Your vote will be recorded.
Duncan Dunlop (South Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I apologise—my vote was not recorded. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.The vote is closed.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The fifth question is, that amendment S7M-00309.1, in the name of David Green, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.5, in the name of Murdo Fraser, is: For 26, Against 91, Abstentions 0.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Briggs, Miles (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Con)Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)Currie, Victor (Highlands and Is...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.5, in the name of Murdo Fraser, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.2, in the name of Lorna Slater, is: For 66, Against 27, Abstentions 26.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Barratt, David (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)Beattie, Colin (Midlothi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.2, in the name of Lorna Slater, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities, be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.4, in the name of Malcolm Offord, is: For 17, Against 92, Abstentions 9.Amendment disagreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForBannerman, Max (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Beresford, Senga (South Scotland) (Reform)Bland, Amanda (Central Scot and Lothians West) (Reform)Currie, Victor (Highlands and Islands) (Reform)Kerr, Thomas (Glasgow) (Reform)Kirkwood, David (South Scotland) (Reform)Langan, Jam...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Malcolm Offord is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Murdo Fraser will fall.The next question is, that amendment S7M-00309.4, in the name of Malcolm Offord, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan M...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
The result of the division on amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, is: For 94, Against 15, Abstentions 9.Amendment agreed to.
Speaker unknown Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Ahmed, Irshad (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab)Anderson, Heather (Dundee City West) (SNP)Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire West and Levern Valley) (SNP)Baillie, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
Okay, thank you.
Lorna Slater (Edinburgh Central) (Green) Green Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
My apologies, Presiding Officer. That was left over from when the app was not working.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
We come to the vote on amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee. Members should cast their vote now.The vote is closed.We have a point of order from Lorna Slater.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.17:18Meeting suspended.17:21On resuming—
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Decision Time
There are seven questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that amendment S7M-00309.3, in the name of Michael Marra, which seeks to amend motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform and empowering staff, service users ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.
Jamie Hepburn SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
I hate to disappoint Ivan McKee, but his speech was not the last speech before the world cup. I will also undoubtedly disappoint other members given that we are looking to get out, but I will not take too long.Members will be aware that standing orders require the Parliamentar...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
Go on—why not?
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Jamie Hepburn) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
I will move and speak to the motion, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
The next item of business is consideration of Parliamentary Bureau motion S7M-00346, on committee membership. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move the motion.17:16
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
That concludes the debate on public service reform and empowering staff, service users and local communities.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Does Mr Kerr want to intervene? I will get the time back, so I am happy to take his point. No, he does not. Okay.We have already saved more than £50 million on estates. I thought that it was 12, but we have now, in fact, shut 13 Scottish Government buildings. Murdo Fraser has ...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Mr Kerr, you know to try to intervene rather than to attack from a sedentary position.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I think that the confusion is more broad. The Reform manifesto talks about getting rid of all 130 public bodies—or “quangos”, as they call them. However, there is also a recognition from across the Reform benches that those public bodies—whether Police Scotland, the court syst...
Victor Currie (Highlands and Islands) (Reform) Reform Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Does the cabinet secretary recall that Max Bannerman’s point on community wind farms was that they do not rely on subsidies? Therefore, it forms no contradiction in Reform policy on our opposition to net zero.
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Yes. David Barratt also draws out the important point that the inconsistency in the Reform position is quite apparent. Reform members say in their amendment that we should not be talking about this stuff, and then they go on to talk about it from very different and contradicto...
David Barratt SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
—renewable energy schemes and for community-owned wind. Does the cabinet secretary agree that that is not the kind of reform that we need?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Hello. It is not a speech within a speech. It is an intervention.
David Barratt SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
In moving the Reform amendment, Malcolm Offord stated that the Scottish Government should have no remit on net zero and energy, and he suggested cutting public bodies that are responsible for related areas. In contrast, Max Bannerman noted the value of community wind power in ...
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I will take David Barratt’s intervention, and then I will go on to talk about those other contributions.
David Barratt (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
In principle, we need stability of funding and to recognise the great work that happens in community organisations, which I see every week in my constituency. That work is absolutely critical, because those organisations are, to a large extent, the front line, and their abilit...
Bob Doris SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I commend the comments on the third sector that we have heard in the chamber this afternoon. I draw the cabinet secretary’s attention to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee’s report on funding of the third and voluntary sectors, and I highlight the longer-term fun...
Ivan McKee SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
On reflection, I am happy with the extent of the contributions that we have heard this afternoon. As I indicated at the outset, I was keen to hear from members, and that is what has happened for the most part. I will try to pick my way through the mind map that I have in front...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
Before I call the cabinet secretary, I say to members that, if they seek to make an intervention, they should remember to stand up and ask to make an intervention. I notice that buttons are pressed but, sometimes, the speakers do not see who is trying to intervene.17:05
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
We move to the open debate.15:58
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I congratulate Ivan McKee—I will call him super Ivan, given the scale of his task, based on his speech and the vision that he has set out today.From listening to colleagues from across the chamber, I am struck that there is a lot of common ground here, and I think that we need...
David Green (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (LD) LD Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I begin by welcoming the cabinet secretary to his new role and wishing him well. As we have already heard, Mr McKee has been handed what might become the defining task of this Government, which is tackling the £5 billion black hole in Scotland’s finances. As Murdo Fraser has j...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I call Murdo Fraser, who joins us online.15:47
Michael Marra Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I point gently to the fact that Alyn Smith’s party had an outright majority in the Parliament for one of those parliamentary sessions, so not having had the numbers is not a foolproof excuse.Alyn Smith will find common ground across different areas. My note of caution to him w...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Jun 2026
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
I should explain that I am having to contribute remotely today due to a family issue; otherwise, I would be in the chamber.I welcome Ivan McKee to his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Public Service Reform. I know that he is keen to dispel the notion that he is here as an axe...
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Meeting of the Parliament 17 November 2011

17 Nov 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Oil and Gas Sector
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV
I welcome this debate, because oil and gas is a subject that is very close to my heart; I worked in the industry and went offshore as part of my job for some 15 years. In the previous session of Parliament, Jamie Stone and I were the only members who had experience of working in the industry. I am not sure whether any of the new intake of MSPs has worked in the industry.

I welcome both the PricewaterhouseCoopers report and the motion, particularly the recognition of just how important it is to maintain and improve Aberdeen’s position as an energy hub. The report is right to stress that Aberdeen will not secure that role for the future without concerted effort and it will require extensive vision, collaboration and real improvements to the infrastructure and skills development opportunities that are on offer in the area. Organisations such as Aberdeen city and shire economic future—ACSEF—the Aberdeen and Grampian Chamber of Commerce and the higher education institutions in the area all recognise that and are working collaboratively to ensure that it happens.

The north-east colleges are collaborating more than ever before, not least with the signing of a federation agreement between Aberdeen and Banff and Buchan colleges. However, as Mark McDonald mentioned, the report states that we must encourage the energy industry to collaborate more with Aberdeen’s academic institutions to ensure that Aberdeen is home to the skills that the energy industry needs for the future. Lewis Macdonald and other north-east MSPs have been to briefings from our colleges and our universities in the past few weeks and we know that they are working hard to make that happen. A seamless education from technician training and apprenticeships through to PhDs and management skills can be provided by the academic institutions in the north-east if they work together.

That makes the first half of Lewis Macdonald’s amendment very relevant. Health and safety pervades everything that the oil industry does. Indeed, if anyone goes to an event sponsored by BP or the oil and gas industry they are given a little card that says to ensure that they hold on to the rails and not to carry anything when they are going down the stairs, particularly blunt instruments or glasses. Health and safety pervades everything that is done, even onshore, and it comes from the importance of health and safety offshore.

Quality of life and good infrastructure in the city are hugely important in making Aberdeen a world-class energy capital for the future. That highlights the importance of projects such as the Aberdeen western peripheral route, which cannot be overstated. The report is right to highlight the need to ensure that the long legal delays it has endured are avoided in future infrastructure projects. Encouraging greater air links to strategically important locations should also be a priority and there is a strong argument for devolving air passenger duty for just such a purpose. It is important that we all do as much as possible to ensure the viability and continuity of the new route from Aberdeen to Frankfurt.

The economic opportunities that are offered by the energy sector—both in oil and gas and in renewables—to Aberdeen are enormous and it is essential to the Scottish economy that efforts to secure them are fully supported. That brings me to the last line of the Government’s motion, which is perhaps one of the most telling recommendations in the PWC report. The North Sea oil and gas industry needs

“fiscal certainty and targeted incentives ... from the UK Government.”

Fiscal certainty and targeted incentives are, unfortunately, the direct opposite of what we got from Danny Alexander and the UK Government.

The UK Government’s tax raid on the oil and gas industry came without warning or consultation and, if anything, was the absolute antithesis of the fiscal certainty that the industry requires. The Scottish Government has called for a statutory consultation period before changes to oil and gas taxation take place in the future. Surely we should all agree that such a measure would go a long way towards giving the industry confidence that it will not unexpectedly be raided again in the future.

The tax increase made no recognition of the effort required, the costs of exploration and development or the variation in how profitable different fields are. Some months ago, the Scottish Government submitted proposals to mitigate the worst effects of the tax grab by calling for a rate of return allowance before a field is liable for the supplementary charge, an investment uplift allowance or an extension of the field allowance for small or technically challenging new fields.

Those measures would encourage the industry to continue investing in exploration and the development of new opportunities. The lack of response to those much-needed proposals has been deeply disappointing to many in the industry, particularly as around a quarter of the previously planned projects have been sufficiently affected by the UK Government’s actions to reduce the probability of them proceeding.

Significant investments in the North Sea have been announced since the increased tax bombshell was dropped, but they are in projects with the highest yields or the most investment already committed to them. The marginal fields are the most heavily affected. Oil & Gas UK has warned of a two-speed industry emerging on the UK continental shelf. Projects involving more than £12 billion of investment that could have led to £15 billion to £20 billion of tax revenues have been put in doubt as a result of the UK Government’s ill-considered actions.

A few years ago, a politician spoke out to condemn the then UK Government’s focus on squeezing out short-term revenue from the oil and gas industry at the expense of investment that was needed to get the most out of the North Sea. That politician was George Osborne. The contrast between his comments in 2007 and his actions as chancellor can only be considered as representing hypocrisy of the worst kind. I hope that he has invested £150-plus in buying Alex Kemp’s two volumes on the history of the oil and gas industry in the UK, and that he learns from them.

I support the motion.

15:51

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01349, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on the oil and gas framework.14:58
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
Thank you for accommodating this important debate, Presiding Officer. I welcome the opportunity to acknowledge the success of Scotland’s oil and gas sector, ...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing SNP
Certainly.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Liam—
Tavish Scott LD
I am Tavish Scott, not Liam McArthur.Does the minister recognise that one of the major economic opportunities over the next 15 to 20 years will be in decommi...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I welcome Tavish Scott’s point; he is absolutely right that decommissioning will present considerable opportunities for Scotland. Just yesterday we received ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I am sure that we should be reassured, minister. Perhaps you would like to move on.
Fergus Ewing SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.Access to finance is as much an issue in the oil and gas industry as it is in other industries, and oil companies are finding it...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to the minister for giving way because he is “that sort of minister”.My point is on fallow fields, which—as the minister will be aware—are fiel...
Fergus Ewing SNP
That is one of a number of factors that concern all members across all parties. I cannot speak for Chris Huhne, but I think that the UK Government is apprise...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You can have a little more time, if you wish.
Fergus Ewing SNP
That is very generous of you, Presiding Officer. You are that sort of Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
That depends on the day.
Fergus Ewing SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Technological excellence, robust supply chains, a skilled workforce and making best use of the existing onshore and offshore oi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
My pleasure. Could you please move the motion?
Fergus Ewing SNP
I move,That the Parliament recognises the continued importance of Scotland’s oil and gas sector to the Scottish and UK economies, its support for 196,000 job...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you. I call Lewis Macdonald, who has a generous nine minutes.15:12
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
North Sea oil and gas have now been with us for a working lifetime. Other members, like me, will know people who have retired from the industry, having joine...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I thank the member for recognising the future of the oil and gas industry. Is it not regrettable that in the second session of this Parliament his ministers—...
Lewis Macdonald SNP
To be frank, what I regret is that after the minister’s constructive opening—and invitation for us to have a consensual and constructive debate—Maureen Watt ...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
We have had an excellent start to the debate. The minister’s speech was ministerial and helpful as opposed to partisan, and Lewis Macdonald’s speech was well...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I note that the member’s amendment would delete all reference to the PWC report. What aspect of that report does he disagree with so fundamentally that he se...
Gavin Brown Con
In the main, it is an excellent report, about 95 per cent of which I could probably sign up to immediately. There were a couple of issues to do with proposed...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
We move to the open debate. I can allow speeches of up to seven minutes.15:29
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
In June, I had a members’ business debate on oil and gas taxation. It was a constructive debate, which was handled constructively by all parties across the c...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I apologise that I will have to leave for a brief period for a prior commitment with a constituent, although I will be back for the closing speeches.I join c...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I welcome this debate, because oil and gas is a subject that is very close to my heart; I worked in the industry and went offshore as part of my job for some...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
A number of weeks ago, Oil & Gas UK and the French company Total organised a parliamentary visit to the Elgin-Franklin field, which is east of Aberdeen. In o...
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member take an intervention?