Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 15 September 2011
15 Sep 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scotland Bill (Corporation Tax)
No, I will not; I would like to move on to my next point.
The central proposition behind the Government’s proposal—which is that the lowering of the rate of corporation tax would boost economic growth in Scotland—is highly debatable. The Republic of Ireland is regularly cited by the SNP and others as proof positive of that proposition, but it is not as simple as that.
Corporation tax was introduced in Ireland in 1976. The standard rate started at 50 per cent, then went to 40 per cent; by 2000 it had reached 24 per cent, and in 2003 it came down to the present 12.5 per cent. Ignoring the fact that the Irish economy is a total basket case at present, I suggest that, if the simple equation between lower corporation tax rates and growth had held true, one would have expected growth rates in the Irish economy to have risen as corporation tax rates had fallen. However, that is not the case. The highest rate of growth in Ireland in recent times was achieved between 1996 and 2000, when it averaged 9.6 per cent per annum. In that period, the corporation tax rate in Ireland was never less than 24 per cent. Indeed, in the subsequent five-year period in which corporation tax rates fell, growth rates fell too.
We have heard a great deal about the proposition that, according to the Scottish Government’s model, a 3 percentage point reduction in corporation tax would create 27,000 jobs after 20 years. The price for that is a reduction in corporation tax revenues of between £200 million and £250 million a year. Let us keep those figures in mind: for £250 million per year, we get 27,000 jobs after 20 years.
Let us now look at an alternative approach to stimulating economic activity, of which we have a recent example in the form of the small business bonus scheme. To find out the impact of that measure on jobs, I turned to that authoritative source, the Scottish National Party website. On 28 February this year, it told us that in only four years, at a cost per annum of barely £110 million, it had created 40,000 new employees.
There we have the contrast, based on the SNP’s own figures. A small business rates reduction creates 40,000 real jobs after four years, but a corporation tax reduction, which is twice as expensive, creates fewer jobs and takes five times as long. That is why our amendment calls on the Scottish Government to model the impact of a reduction in business rates that is equivalent, in money terms, to its proposal for corporation tax, so that we can compare outcomes.
What could be the lesson for the SNP Government from that exercise? It is quite simple: we should use the tax powers that we have, rather than moan about those that we do not have. If we did that, we might get a pleasant surprise, and Scotland would be much better off.
I move amendment S4M-00856.2, to leave out from “the important role” to end and insert:
“that there is no simple relationship between rates of corporation tax and economic growth, which is dependent on a multitude of factors, and calls on the Scottish Government to model the economic impact of an equivalent cut in business rates as a comparator to its corporation tax model and a policy option that is currently available to it.”
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The central proposition behind the Government’s proposal—which is that the lowering of the rate of corporation tax would boost economic growth in Scotland—is highly debatable. The Republic of Ireland is regularly cited by the SNP and others as proof positive of that proposition, but it is not as simple as that.
Corporation tax was introduced in Ireland in 1976. The standard rate started at 50 per cent, then went to 40 per cent; by 2000 it had reached 24 per cent, and in 2003 it came down to the present 12.5 per cent. Ignoring the fact that the Irish economy is a total basket case at present, I suggest that, if the simple equation between lower corporation tax rates and growth had held true, one would have expected growth rates in the Irish economy to have risen as corporation tax rates had fallen. However, that is not the case. The highest rate of growth in Ireland in recent times was achieved between 1996 and 2000, when it averaged 9.6 per cent per annum. In that period, the corporation tax rate in Ireland was never less than 24 per cent. Indeed, in the subsequent five-year period in which corporation tax rates fell, growth rates fell too.
We have heard a great deal about the proposition that, according to the Scottish Government’s model, a 3 percentage point reduction in corporation tax would create 27,000 jobs after 20 years. The price for that is a reduction in corporation tax revenues of between £200 million and £250 million a year. Let us keep those figures in mind: for £250 million per year, we get 27,000 jobs after 20 years.
Let us now look at an alternative approach to stimulating economic activity, of which we have a recent example in the form of the small business bonus scheme. To find out the impact of that measure on jobs, I turned to that authoritative source, the Scottish National Party website. On 28 February this year, it told us that in only four years, at a cost per annum of barely £110 million, it had created 40,000 new employees.
There we have the contrast, based on the SNP’s own figures. A small business rates reduction creates 40,000 real jobs after four years, but a corporation tax reduction, which is twice as expensive, creates fewer jobs and takes five times as long. That is why our amendment calls on the Scottish Government to model the impact of a reduction in business rates that is equivalent, in money terms, to its proposal for corporation tax, so that we can compare outcomes.
What could be the lesson for the SNP Government from that exercise? It is quite simple: we should use the tax powers that we have, rather than moan about those that we do not have. If we did that, we might get a pleasant surprise, and Scotland would be much better off.
I move amendment S4M-00856.2, to leave out from “the important role” to end and insert:
“that there is no simple relationship between rates of corporation tax and economic growth, which is dependent on a multitude of factors, and calls on the Scottish Government to model the economic impact of an equivalent cut in business rates as a comparator to its corporation tax model and a policy option that is currently available to it.”
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-00856, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on the Scotland Bill and corporation tax.15:23
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing)
SNP
I welcome this opportunity to debate a key policy lever that should be at the heart of our strategy for sustainable economic growth in Scotland: corporation ...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con)
Con
I agree entirely that we ought to have a detailed and mature discussion, but why has the Scottish Government not published the modelling that it claims to ha...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
We do not agree with that proposition. We believe that we have published proper detail on the principle of our proposals, and I will come on to address some ...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab)
Lab
What would the impact of the minister’s corporation tax proposals be on the Scottish budget?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I am coming on to that. We believe that the impact will be positive for Scotland, which is why we propose it, as opposed to the impact of the Westminster Gov...
David McLetchie (Lothian) (Con)
Con
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Not just at the moment; I want to cover the matters that I know will be of interest to all members.It is the lack of economic levers that is important to our...
Gavin Brown
Con
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I will move on. There are other matters that Mr Brown would expect me to cover, and I wish to do so within the time that I have available.Clearly, parts of t...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Not just yet. I am in the middle of this point, but I will give way to Mr Harvie later on.HM Treasury has stated that, in Northern Ireland,“A lower corporati...
Patrick Harvie
Green
What safeguards does the minister think ought to be in place, if corporation tax were devolved, to prevent the already scandalous problem of corporation tax ...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
No, we would not. I accept that there is a serious problem with the avoidance of corporation tax as it is administered by the London Treasury. The problem ha...
Gavin Brown
Con
Will the minister give way?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I must make progress to cover the important matters that Mr Brown and others are interested in.I am confident that there would be far greater benefits to Sco...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
When the First Minister announced the Scottish Government’s calls for the Scotland Bill to be extended to give new powers to his ministers, we made it clear ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
Does the member agree that the debate goes much wider than the headline rate? There is also the opportunity to target particular industries or small business...
Richard Baker
Lab
I do not agree with the analysis put forward: there appears to be scant evidence that taking that step will achieve the additional economic activity in areas...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Can Mr Baker provide one international example of a country that cut its corporation tax rate and did not generate an overall increase in corporation tax rev...
Richard Baker
Lab
The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland tells us that there is very little evidence indeed to suggest that corporation tax cuts in this country ha...
Patrick Harvie
Green
I do not argue that safeguards against avoidance behaviour are impossible to achieve; I am concerned that the Government does not seem to place a high priori...
Richard Baker
Lab
Such ambitions could be achieved if the Scottish Government used the powers that it has on, for example, business rates. It could be counterproductive to cha...
David McLetchie (Lothian) (Con)
Con
The purpose of the Scotland Bill is, first and foremost, to improve the financial accountability and responsibility of the Scottish Parliament by extending i...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
In that case, can Mr McLetchie explain why the UK Government recognises why it would be advantageous for Northern Ireland to have the power to reduce its cor...
David McLetchie
Con
If Mr Ewing followed the subject more carefully, he would know that the UK Government has just completed the consultation on the matter and has not yet taken...
John Mason
SNP
Will the member give way?
David McLetchie
Con
No, I will not; I would like to move on to my next point.The central proposition behind the Government’s proposal—which is that the lowering of the rate of c...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD)
LD
I apologise to the Presiding Officer and members in the chamber for arriving marginally late; I need a better alarm clock in order to arrive on time.Legislat...
John Mason
SNP
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