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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
Everyone has now voted. Once again, I ask scrutineers and candidates to please go to the back of the chamber. The votes will be counted for the final time.In the final round of voting to elect a second Deputy Presiding Officer, the number of votes that were cast for each candi...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
Ballot papers up the back. Please vote now.Members voted by secret ballot.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
I declare that the election for the second Deputy Presiding Officer is now open. The voting procedures are the same as before.Members voted by secret ballot.The Presiding Officer:Voting in this round of the Deputy Presiding Officer election is closed. I invite the scrutineers,...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
Voting for this round of the Deputy Presiding Officer election is now closed. I invite scrutineers to proceed to the back of the chamber for the count. Again, candidates may also observe the count.Colleagues, you will be delighted to know that we have a result. In this round o...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
Okay, folks, you know the drill. Ballot papers are at the back of the chamber.Members voted by secret ballot.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
Good afternoon, everyone. I am glad that you are all with us once more. This will be the last voting session of the afternoon, you will be glad to know—before you can all depart the scene.I have received five valid nominations for the position of Deputy Presiding Officer, and ...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Deputy Presiding Officers
The first meeting of the seventh session of the Parliament is now resumed. I have received five valid nominations for the position of Deputy Presiding Officer. I shall now announce the nominees and ask all candidates, as their names are announced, to make themselves known to t...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Okay, folks. I have just been given some instructions about what will happen next. However, before that, I want to thank every member who has participated in this voting process. My belated congratulations to them if I have not already spoken to them about winning their own el...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Voting in the third round of the election of the Presiding Officer is closed. I invite any scrutineers appointed by the candidates to go to the back of the chamber to observe the counting of ballot papers. Candidates may also observe the count.In this round of voting in the el...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
This voting period is now open, using the same voting procedure as before.Members voted by secret ballot.
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Voting in this round of the Presiding Officer election is closed. I invite the scrutineers to proceed to the back of the chamber for the counting of votes. Again, candidates may also observe the count.In the second round of voting in the election of the Presiding Officer, the ...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
Voting in the first round of the election of the Presiding Officer is closed. I now invite any scrutineers appointed by the candidates to go to the back of the chamber to observe the counting of ballot papers. Candidates may also observe the count.In the first round of voting ...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
As previously announced, I have received four valid nominations. In alphabetical order, the nominees are: Kenneth Gibson, Clare Haughey, Liam McArthur and Stuart McMillan.The election shall proceed in accordance with rule 11.9 of standing orders. If no member receives an overa...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) Chamber
14 May 2026
Presiding Officer
The first meeting of the seventh session of the Parliament is resumed. I have received four valid nominations for the position of Presiding Officer. I shall now announce the nominations and ask all candidates, as their names are announced, to make themselves known to the chamb...
The Presiding Officer Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I wish to inform members that nominations for the position of Presiding Officer will open at 12.30 pm. Nomination forms can be collected from the parliamentary business team, which is situated in T1.03. Completed nomination forms should be returned to the parliamentary busines...
Kate Campbell (Edinburgh Eastern, Musselburgh and Tranent) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My first allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Kate Rosa Campbell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Stephen Gethins (Dundee City East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Stephen Patrick Gethins, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Jenny Young (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Jenny Young, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, David Herd Torrance, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Maree Todd (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Maree Todd, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.Tha mise Maree Todd, gu sòlaimte is fìrinneach a’ cur an cèill agus ag innse gum bi mi d...
Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Alison Thewliss, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.Tha mise Alison Thewliss, gu sòlaimte is fìrinneach a’ cur an cèill agus ag innse g...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Paul John Sweeney, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Collette Stevenson (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Collette Stevenson, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Pauline Stafford (Bathgate) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I pledge my allegiance to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Pauline Stafford, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Shirley-Anne Somerville (Dunfermline) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Shirley-Anne Somerville, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
David Smith (West Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, David Haydn Smith, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Alyn Edward Smith, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Lorna Slater (Edinburgh Central) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My first allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Lorna Jane Slater, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Mark Simpson (North East Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Mark Simpson, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Graham Simpson, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Kim Schmulian (Glasgow) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Kim Schmulian, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Katherine Sangster (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Katherine Blackstock Sangster, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
In my heart, my allegiance is to the people of Scotland.I, Mark Ruskell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Angela Ross (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Angela Ross, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Emma Roddick (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I make this affirmation under protest in order to sit in this Parliament, where my allegiance will be to the people of Inverness and Nairn.I, Emma Roddick, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, William Cowan Rennie, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Kirsten Oswald (Eastwood) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Kirsten Frances Oswald, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Kate Nevens (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I make this affirmation to the sovereign people of Scotland and pledge that, in all my actions, the interests of the Scottish people shall be paramount over and above those of the monarchy.I, Kate Nevens, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be fait...
Laura Moodie (South Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My affirmation is to the sovereign people of Scotland, whose interests I will always serve before those of the monarchy.I, Laura Moodie, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I believe that the people of this country should be citizens, not subjects, and my first allegiance is to them.I, Carol Ann Mochan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and ...
Laura Mitchell (Moray) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Laura Mitchell, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.I, Laura Mitchell, gie my depone, solemnly and sincerely, aat I wull be faithful and...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Jenni Minto, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Jack Middleton (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I declare that my first loyalty will always be to the people of Scotland.I, Jack Middleton, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Colm Merrick (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Colm Merrick, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Lloyd Alexander Melville, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Pauline Mary McNeill, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Marie Alexandra McNair, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Stuart McMillan (Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Stuart McMillan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Paul McLennan (East Lothian Coast and Lammermuirs) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Paul Stewart McLennan, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Easterhouse and Springburn) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Ivan McKee, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Cara McKee (West Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Cara McKee, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Helen McDade, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Liam Scott McArthur, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Màiri McAllan (Clydesdale) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Màiri Louise McAllan, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Duncan Massey (North East Scotland) (Reform) Reform Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Duncan Massey, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
My allegiance is to the people of Scotland, who are sovereign.I, Gillian Anne Martin, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Michael Marra, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Q Manivannan (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Green) Green Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I make the affirmation for the people of Scotland and their care, my bonnie, bonnie home.I, Q Manivannan, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh North Eastern and Leith) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
In order to represent my constituents and serve the common good and the people of Scotland, I, Ben Macpherson, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according...
Donald MacKinnon (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 May 2026
Oaths and Affirmations
I, Donald MacKinnon, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.Tha mise Dòmhnall MacFhionghain, a’ mionnachadh gum bi mi dìleas agus fìor umhail do A Mhòrachd An Rìgh Teàrla...
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Committee

Scotland Bill Committee 01 November 2011

01 Nov 2011 · S4 · Scotland Bill Committee
Item of business
Scotland Bill
The Lord Advocate (Frank Mulholland) Watch on SPTV
Thank you, convener. On my far right is Fraser Gibson, who is head of the appeals division in the Crown Office; to my immediate right is Elspeth MacDonald, who is head of the constitutional and parliamentary secretariat and to my immediate left is Alison Coull, who is in the constitutional and civil law division.As the convener noted, I wish to make a few opening remarks, after which I will be delighted to answer any questions as best I can.I will summarise the Scottish Government’s position on UK Supreme Court jurisdiction, and then speak to the evidence that I submitted last week in advance of today’s session, which seeks to implement that position.As has already been mentioned, Scotland has a unique legal tradition that is many centuries old and is proudly independent. The existence of a distinctive Scots law predates the treaty and acts of union by centuries. The distinctiveness of Scots law is part of our heritage and until 1999 the High Court of Justiciary sat in its rightful place at the apex of the Scottish criminal justice system.Since devolution, the jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council and the UK Supreme Court has developed, and has had many effects that were not foreseen. With that in mind, I welcome the reports prepared by Lord McCluskey’s independent review group. The group’s advice is objective and measured and has been informed by eminent experts. It provides a sound and sensible basis for progressing. The review group’s analysis is considered: it recognises the need for change, and puts forward measured and achievable suggestions for how we can bring about that change.I will summarise briefly the group’s key recommendations. First, the UK Supreme Court should be limited in jurisdiction, ruling only on the interpretation of convention rights and not on any remedy for breach of those rights. Secondly, an appeal to the UK Supreme Court should be competent to proceed only where a point of general public importance is judged to be raised. Thirdly, provisions for appealing to the UK Supreme Court should not be artificially limited to acts of the Lord Advocate, but should be extended to acts of all public bodies, including the Scottish ministers.The Scottish Government supports those recommendations and wishes them to be implemented. I note that the Lord President, speaking on behalf of the Scottish judiciary, shares that view and has come out in support of what is proposed, particularly on certification.I note that others have different views, particularly on certification, but we must remember that Scotland has an independent legal system. We must trust the High Court of Justiciary to consider the merits of cases and rule accordingly, just as the courts of appeal in the other constituent parts of the United Kingdom are trusted. In that way, the High Court and the UK Supreme Court will both be able to fulfil their respective functions.That is the Scottish Government’s position. I turn now to the proposals to implement the McCluskey group’s recommendations. What is required is a change to what is proposed in the Scotland Bill. The Advocate General for Scotland has published provisions that we find problematic. They establish the UK Supreme Court as a court of general appeal within the Scottish criminal justice system and they do not effectively address the difficulties that were raised initially by the Scottish judiciary. Those difficulties were highlighted in our submissions to the Scotland Bill Committee in the previous parliamentary session, and they have been addressed and explored in detail by two expert groups: one for the Advocate General and one led by Lord McCluskey.The establishment of a general appeal without any filter mechanism could even exacerbate the original problem. We have developed alternative draft illustrative provisions in the form of a clause, which could replace clause 17 of the Scotland Bill. The committee may note that no distinction is made here between ECHR and EU law issues in criminal proceedings, and we see no grounds for making one following the Advocate General’s approach in the Scotland Bill thus far.With regard to delivering the McCluskey recommendations, we are proposing provisions that create a new avenue of restricted appeal to the UK Supreme Court from the High Court based on whether there has been an act by a public authority that is incompatible with convention rights or EU law. The issue before the court will be compatibility only.A prerequisite for such an appeal is that the High Court has issued a certificate confirming that the point that is raised is of general public importance. The High Court will give reasons for whether it grants that certification and, in addition, it will decide whether to grant leave to appeal.16:30 It may be that in some cases the High Court grants a certificate but does not grant leave. In such cases, it would be open to the UK Supreme Court to grant leave. The key point is that if the High Court does not grant a certificate, the Supreme Court has no powers to consider the matter. Thus, the High Court has the final say on the test of general public importance, as the Court of Appeal does in England and Wales. We have confidence that the High Court can be trusted to apply that threshold test. That practical measure will help to maintain the High Court’s traditional position at the apex of the Scottish criminal justice system.There are a number of other points. Appeals are time limited in line with those in England and Wales under relevant legislation. The proposal makes provision for lower courts to refer matters to the High Court for consideration prior to trial, and while normally appeals to the Supreme Court will go only after the conclusion of proceedings in the courts below, the High Court can exceptionally refer a question to the UK Supreme Court prior to that stage. The committee will note that we propose that the functions of the Lord Advocate and the Advocate General to refer cases where a point of general public importance is raised should be retained. The clause on the Advocate General in the Scotland Bill seeks to remove that power, but we accept that the Advocate General should retain that power to address concerns about ensuring consistent application of convention rights across the UK.We are clear that the UK Supreme Court’s role within the Scottish criminal justice system must be limited to declaring whether there has been a breach of convention rights or EU law. The Advocate General’s proposals provide the UK Supreme Court with all the powers of inferior courts and, in consequence, the power to affirm, set aside or vary orders, remit issues for determination by that court and order a new trial or hearing. That is unnecessary, as the courts below can be trusted—it is second nature for any court—to make decisions on compatibility with convention rights. What we propose is a sharper focus on the compatibility question, restricting the powers of the Supreme Court to ruling on compatibility and remitting the case to the High Court to decide effective remedy.I hope that this is a helpful run-through of what we propose. The committee will have noted that the matter of safeguarding the integrity of Scots criminal law was debated in the Parliament last week. I understand that, due to technical issues, a motion inviting the Parliament to endorse the recommendations was not voted on. When that vote is reconvened, which I understand will be tomorrow, I hope that we will see the Parliament join others, such as the Lord President of the Court of Session and Scotland’s senior judiciary, in endorsing the McCluskey group’s recommendations.That completes my opening remarks, convener. I am more than happy to take any questions.

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The Convener (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Belatedly, I say good afternoon to everyone. Welcome to the Scotland Bill Committee’s ninth meeting in session 4. I remind those present that, unless they ha...
Paul McBride QC
To save a little time, I did not plan to make an opening statement. I served on the United Kingdom working group that the Advocate General for Scotland set u...
Adam Ingram (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
Welcome to the meeting, Mr McBride. You have stated your position succinctly. As you endorse Lord McCluskey’s recommendations, what is your view of the Lord ...
Paul McBride
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Adam Ingram SNP
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Paul McBride
It is dangerous for the Law Society to proceed on the basis of what appears to be a couple of individual controversial cases—presumably the Cadder case and t...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
You indicated that there was quite a lot of overlap between the McCluskey recommendations and the Edward group, on which you served. What was the Edward grou...
Paul McBride
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James Kelly Lab
I understand what you are saying, but I just want to be clear about how the Edward group considered the certification issue. I understand that two submission...
Paul McBride
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Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
We heard evidence last week from the Law Society of Scotland and the Faculty of Advocates, which seemed to argue—I hope that I do not misrepresent them—that ...
Paul McBride
That is a classic lawyer’s semantic distinction—it really does not mean anything at all. The real question is: if you live in Scotland, do you effectively ha...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Mr McBride, you will be aware of the letter that the committee received last week from Lord Hamilton, the Lord President, generally supporting Lord McCluskey...
Paul McBride
It is a very significant letter. I had thought that such a letter might have been written sooner, but the judge correctly decided to wait for the publication...
Joan McAlpine SNP
How significant would it be if the Lord President’s recommendations were ignored in the Scotland Bill, which we are considering and which is going through at...
Paul McBride
We then stray into a matter of politics—and I am very conscious that the issue has, to a degree, become a political one.I would have thought that it would be...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
I am struggling to understand what practical difference certification would actually make. Surely an issue of human rights and a failure to meet our internat...
Paul McBride
It is very important to have certification because, if we do not have it, people will simply be able to bypass the highest court in this land, which has been...
Willie Rennie LD
We are not really talking about consistency. The Supreme Court plays a role in criminal matters in Northern Ireland, Wales and England, but we are not talkin...
Paul McBride
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David McLetchie (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Paul McBride
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David McLetchie Con
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Paul McBride
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David McLetchie Con
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Paul McBride
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