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The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
That concludes the urgent question. We will have a one-minute break to switch over, after which we will resume with portfolio questions.The rest of this Official Report will be published progressively as soon as the text is available.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I understand the motivation behind Mr Smith’s questions. He will understand that Police Scotland, the Courts and Tribunals Service and the Crown are rightly independent of Government. However, what we are able to see from the footage that Mr Kerr and Mr Smith have alluded to s...
Alyn Smith (Stirling) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I commend Paul Sweeney for his contributions in the chamber. There is a lot of unanimity across the Parliament, and we should all be careful with our words in general when discussing such matters.These are aggravated offences. I commend the cabinet secretary for his response, ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I agree with Mr Kerr’s points. Of course, there is a right to protest and to organise peacefully, but that is not what we saw last night. We saw thuggery and intimidatory tactics seeking to divide communities. They will not succeed in Scotland.Last night, I was in live dialogu...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Looking at the footage of last night’s events, we see that it was not protest but criminal disorder. Families should be able to go about their daily lives in Scotland without fear of violence, intimidation or public disorder from a gang of balaclava-clad hooligans.Will the cab...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
In the first instance, those efforts are being led by Police Scotland in the work that it is doing to reassure communities across Scotland. Work is ongoing in Government to ensure that we are able to protect and enhance communities, including minority ethnic groups and religio...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen and Cambuslang) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The scenes in Glasgow city centre and in other parts of Scotland—and, indeed, in Belfast—were truly shocking. Those scenes and all racism must be condemned by all parties in the chamber. Shame on those who choose not to do so.How will the Scottish Government reach out to and w...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I fundamentally and completely agree with what Paul Sweeney has said—I believe that to my core. We are a welcoming nation. We have benefited from migration to this country and we continue to benefit from it. I say that particularly given the offices that I have held in health ...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Some members of the Parliament have sought to fan the flames of division with continual talk of “strangers” and calls for further protests tonight. Does the cabinet secretary agree that every one of us in the Parliament has a duty to calm tensions in this country and not to in...
The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Before Paul Sweeney comes back in, I say to him that I am looking for questions rather than speeches. Other members are keen to come in, so it is important that we keep questions as brief as possible.
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
I completely agree with everything that Paul Sweeney has put on the record in his supplementary question. The Scottish Government’s approach is grounded in tackling hate consistently and proportionately across all communities, which is underpinned by a zero-tolerance stance on...
Paul Sweeney Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
Last night, racist thugs stormed through the centre of Glasgow under the white nationalist slogan “White lives matter”. Members of the public were attacked indiscriminately because of the colour of their skin, and two police officers were injured. My prayers are with those who...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
The actions of a very small number of individuals in parts of Scotland last night, which included the assaulting of police officers and members of minority ethnic communities, are shocking and unacceptable. Violence and racism have no place on our streets, and I utterly condem...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
To ask the Scottish Government what urgent action it will take in response to the reported violent racist demonstrations that took place last night in Glasgow.
Speaker unknown Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Urgent Question
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The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA Chamber
10 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Today’s business begins with the results of the elections for committee conveners. I will announce the results for each committee in turn.Stuart McMillan has been elected as convener of the Climate Action Committee. The total number of ballots was 121 and the results were as f...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is disappointing that Mr Hoy does not welcome the prospect of a GP walk-in service for Stranraer. The important point is that the purpose of GP walk-in services is to free up capacity in the primary care system, so that people across our constituencies and regions can be se...
Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
It is 77 miles from Sanquhar to Stranraer, which is a journey that takes a minimum of two hours by car or at least four hours by bus. Given that my constituents will be expected to make that journey to access the GP walk-in centre in Stranraer, does that not expose the policy ...
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I expect the Glasgow site to open later this month. I very much appreciate the health board’s hard work to get the services up and running. I am sure that Michelle Campbell will join me in welcoming the opening of the sites and thanking our hard-working national health service...
Michelle Campbell (Renfrewshire North and Cardonald) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Work is well under way in preparation for Glasgow’s first walk-in clinic opening. Can the Scottish Government offer an update on when that wonderful resource for the good people of Cardonald will be open?
Angela Constance SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
Ms Gibson has made an important point about reducing health inequality by improving access to healthcare. The Government is committed to providing a North Ayrshire walk-in service, which was one of the 14 additional services that were announced. That brings the total number of...
Patricia Gibson SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
North Ayrshire’s people have Scotland’s lowest healthy life expectancy. The average adult remains in full health until just 53 years old. More than 28 per cent of people live with a long-term health condition, which is 6 per cent higher than the Scottish average. In view of th...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care (Angela Constance) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
I have committed to expanding the walk-in service programme and will set out how I will do so in the first 100 days of this Government. Health boards were previously asked to generate proposals that considered their populations’ needs, taking into account local issues and circ...
Patricia Gibson (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · GP Walk-in Centres (North Ayrshire)
To ask the Scottish Government when it expects a general practitioner walk-in centre to open in North Ayrshire. (S7O-00023)
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
The short answer is yes. I am happy to meet Ms Minto or any other member to discuss the matter further. The challenge of multiple organisations drawing on small rural populations is not new. The SFRS works collaboratively with a range of partners, including the coastguard serv...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I appreciate that these are independent decisions to be made by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, but I am interested to know whether the Scottish Government is looking at the cumulative impact of those changes on, for example, other rescue services such as the coastguard,...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I am more than happy to explore that with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service in order to ensure that we are in a position to respond to the changing nature of fire and flood risk across Scotland. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s very successful prevention activities, a...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
Ministers previously told Parliament that almost £1 million of specialist wildfire pumping units would be deployed within weeks. A Scottish Conservative freedom of information request later revealed that they were still not operational, during Scotland’s worst wildfire season ...
Neil Gray SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
These are independent decisions for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to make, but it is open to Parliament to take a view on those matters—in the way that a view is normally taken, for example, on investigations undertaken through the committee structure—or otherwise. Obvi...
Joe Fagan Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
There is profound concern about the potential outcomes of the service delivery review, not least from the firefighters and their union. Given the gravity of the decisions that are about to be made, does the Government agree that there should be full parliamentary scrutiny and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
I met the SFRS board chair on 4 June, when we discussed the overall objectives of the service delivery review and the consultation and outreach process that the SFRS has undertaken. Recent large fires in Glasgow and Fife have been dealt with commendably by our front-line firef...
Joe Fagan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)
To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service board regarding the outcome of the service delivery review that is due to be considered on 22 June. (S7O-00022)
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am happy to answer.If Mr Cole-Hamilton wishes to write to me, I will write back to him as swiftly as I possibly can.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That was not quite on the nose for the general question, but do you want to respond, cabinet secretary?
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I hope that the cabinet secretary will agree that one of the safest ways to get students from Kirkliston in my constituency to their catchment high school in South Queensferry is via the council-funded coach service that has been operating well there for several years. A decis...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I realise that everyone is finding their feet, including me. I remind members that they should only press their button if they want to ask a supplementary to the general question that has been asked.Alex Cole-Hamilton has a supplementary.
Lloyd Melville (Angus South) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
My apologies, Presiding Officer. I pressed my button in error, thinking that I would have to do that for my general question later on.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Lloyd Melville has a supplementary.
Julie MacDougall Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I apologise.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
That is not relevant to this question. We are on supplementaries to the question that Patrick Harvie asked.
Julie MacDougall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I recently met the chief executive of Forth Valley College. It was incredibly harrowing to hear about how apprenticeship courses are being cut—
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Julie MacDougall has a supplementary.
Stephen Flynn SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
Mr Harvie will be pleased to know that £3.2 million is still going to regional transport partnerships—£1.6 million will be available for local direct awards and £1.4 million is going to bikeability schemes, which all our weans can benefit from. Of course, that forms part of a ...
Patrick Harvie Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I am sorry that the cabinet secretary did not choose to answer that question by explaining why the cut took place and why it took place during the election purdah period. I have returned to my job to meet local community organisations that are doing the work that the Scottish ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Tourism and Transport (Stephen Flynn) SNP Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
I thank Patrick Harvie for his question, because it gives me the opportunity to restate what the First Minister said. We support cycling, walking and wheeling, which is why £226 million-worth of investment is going into sustainable and active travel. I am very proud of that—I ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green Chamber
09 Jun 2026
General Question Time · Active Travel (Funding)
To ask the Scottish Government, in light of comments made by the First Minister in the Parliament on 2 June that the Scottish Government prioritises active and safe travel routes and the encouragement of cycling, walking and wheeling, for what reason Transport Scotland reporte...
Stephen Kerr Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Thank you.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Yes.
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. For guidance, would it be possible for the same person to be nominated again in those circumstances?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
The process is opened again for further nominations. However, to be clear, any other member who is nominated will have to come from the party from which the original member was selected.
Helen McDade Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
What happens then?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
If a candidate receives the majority of votes, that candidate will become the committee convener. If the majority is against it, that candidate will not be the committee convener.
Helen McDade (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Reform) Reform Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I just wonder what the process is. Can you explain what happens once a vote has been cast when there is only one candidate, so that we know what we are voting against?
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Willie Rennie’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Fifteen out of 15 convenerships will be subject to secret ballots.I have also received two valid nominations for convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. The nomin...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Craig Hoy’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Willie Rennie has been nominated as convener of the Transport Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was received.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Mark Ruskell’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Craig Hoy has been nominated as convener of the Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button n...
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Bob Doris’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Mark Ruskell has been nominated as convener of the Rural Affairs Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Paul Sweeney’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Bob Doris has been nominated as convener of the Public Service Reform Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Neil Bibby’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Paul Sweeney has been nominated as convener of the Public Petitions Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
The Presiding Officer NPA Chamber
09 Jun 2026
Committee Conveners
Helen McDade’s election as convener will be subject to election by secret ballot.Neil Bibby has been nominated as convener of the Public Audit Committee. If any member objects to his election as convener, please press your point-of-order button now.An objection was noted.
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Audit Committee, 06 Jan 2004

06 Jan 2004 · S2 · Audit Committee
Item of business
“Overview of the National Health Service in Scotland 2002/03”
Mr Robert Black (Auditor General for Scotland): Watch on SPTV
Thank you. I, too, take the opportunity to wish everyone a happy new year.I welcome the chance briefly to introduce the report, which provides an overview of the main issues that arise from the 2002-03 audit of national health service boards and trusts. It also summarises how the NHS in Scotland is funded and explains how it is organised, including the organisational changes that will result from the integration of trusts with their NHS boards.In the report, I review financial stewardship and corporate governance in the NHS and I comment on the financial performance of the health service in 2002-03. I also highlight four NHS bodies in which financial health is of most concern.Overall financial stewardship in the health service continues to be very good. The audits were completed on time and there were no qualifications to the "true and fair" opinions that were provided by the auditors.However, the auditors of a number of NHS bodies qualified their audit opinions on the regularity of family health service expenditure and income. That is because of continuing difficulty in obtaining sufficient evidence that family health service expenditure and income were incurred and applied in accordance with all the enactments and guidance that are in place. I have mentioned that problem in previous years.FHS activity remains a significant source of potential fraud—I emphasise the phrase "potential fraud"—and irregularity in the health service. The Common Services Agency estimates that practitioner fraud may cost the health service in Scotland £40 million to £100 million per annum, out of the annual expenditure on the family health service of £1.6 billion. Practitioner fraud occurs when claims are submitted for services or prescriptions that have not been legitimately provided. The CSA also estimates that patient fraud cost the health service more than £12 million during 2002-03. Patient fraud occurs when patients falsely claim entitlement to free prescriptions and other services, which results in under-recovery of income by primary care trusts. The CSA is responsible for making the payments in this area. It made significant progress in 2002-03 in improving the control environment and in introducing robust payment verification checks, but it is important that further progress be achieved in order to avoid similar qualified regularity audit opinions in future.I would like to say, however, that the report also comments on a number of good aspects of corporate governance in the health service. One example is that the new unified boards have made good progress in getting the committee structures in place—board and committee meetings are occurring regularly. There are encouraging signs that a good co-operative approach is being taken to management of each local health area.A second example of good practice relates to the bedding down of the new performance assessment framework, which is a comprehensive performance management framework for the NHS in Scotland that was introduced in 2002. Auditors report that most health boards have found the performance assessment framework indicators to be helpful in reviewing and assessing their performance.I will stay just for a moment on the corporate governance theme. A feature of the current structural changes is that individual health boards propose different management structures for the new integrated organisations that are coming in to replace the former boards and trusts. In my report, I point to the opportunities that may exist for health boards to learn valuable lessons from one another in successfully integrating their trusts.I turn now to financial performance. The first thing to note is that the NHS introduced a new financial framework for 2002-03. The intention is to improve consistency in financial reporting and to provide a better picture of the overall financial performance of the health service. There will be a new operating cost statement which, in essence, will describe the net operating costs of health service bodies. Net operating costs will then be compared to the revenue resource limit, which is set by the Scottish Executive for NHS boards. In turn, a revenue resource limit is set by boards for each trust. The revenue resource limit is, in effect, the amount of resources available in a financial year to each NHS body to fund its activity.The revised financial framework also resulted in changes to the financial targets for the NHS in Scotland. However, the statutory break-even target remains and is now interpreted as requiring NHS bodies to remain within the revenue resource limit. Twenty-three of the 28 trusts were at, or within, the new revenue resource limit targets for 2002-03, compared with 25 trusts that achieved their break-even targets in 2001-02. It is clear, however, that achievement of financial targets remains a challenge for NHS bodies.Auditors identified three main methods that allowed the revenue resource limits to be met in 2002-03. The first of those is the rerouting of underspends within NHS systems. In the NHS in Tayside, for example, underspends within the primary care trust allowed funds to be transferred to the acute trust. That shows the benefits that co-operative working can bring to management of NHS finances. The fact that that rerouting of underspends was necessary at all, however, is indicative of the financial pressures that continue to face NHS bodies.There is still a need to identify and address the underlying recurring deficits if financial balance is to be achieved in the foreseeable future. In the current structure of health boards and separate trusts, it is clear when budgets are reallocated between trusts—I have just given the example of Tayside—but there is a risk that, under the proposed single-tier NHS system, such transparency might be lost, and that underlying recurring deficits in particular services or directorates within a unified board may not be disclosed and tackled effectively.Secondly, and also on the financial theme, many NHS bodies have been developing financial recovery plans, which include implementation of cash-releasing efficiency savings. It is important that NHS bodies continue to review the way in which services are provided, and to seek efficiency savings whenever that is possible. However, I have to report that the auditors of several NHS bodies have concerns about the ability of NHS bodies to deliver savings plans, which are essential if financial recovery plans are to be viable.A third issue is that, as in previous years, it is clear that many trusts relied on non-recurring funding—totalling £266 million—to balance their books in 2002-03. Several different types of non-recurring funding can be identified, which I detail in an exhibit in the report. In some cases, in which the Scottish Executive Health Department's funding of specific initiatives is involved, health bodies can form a reasonable expectation that some funding will be received annually, although its level and exact purpose may not be known in advance. In such cases, the earmarked income for those initiatives should be matched to the specific spending needs, and is of little or no help in achieving a balanced recurring budget. In other cases, for example in disposal of surplus property, funding is available only once. Although those sources of income can be used to alleviate in-year deficits, it is important that NHS bodies do not become too dependent upon those one-off sources when they plan to achieve year-on-year financial balance.Over the next three years, the Scottish Executive is committed to spending significantly more on the NHS in Scotland. Planned expenditure is expected to rise from £6.7 billion in 2002-03 to £8.5 billion in 2005-06. There is an expectation—understandably so—that the extra funds will contribute to improved health care, but our best guess is that much of the extra money is likely to be used to meet increased staff costs that will arise from recruitment of more consultants and nurses, from introduction of new contracts for consultants and other staff, from full implementation of the European Union working time directive, and from introduction of new general practitioner contracts.I highlight in my report four NHS bodies whose financial health is of most concern. Those are Lothian University Hospitals NHS Trust, Grampian University Hospitals NHS Trust, NHS Argyll and Clyde and NHS Fife. My report outlines the position of each of those bodies. I will take a moment or two to give the committee a brief outline of the position, if that is agreeable to the committee.In Lothian University Hospitals NHS Trust, the achievement of financial targets has depended significantly on non-recurring funding. The trust's financial recovery plan—dated March 2003—forecast a cumulative shortfall of nearly £180 million in the five years to 2007-08. By June 2003 the revised plan showed a balanced financial position for the current financial year. As at September 2003, however, the trust was reporting an overspend of £6.6 million against its 2003-04 budget.Grampian University Hospitals NHS Trust recorded an overspend of £5.2 million in 2002-03, which was due to the accumulated deficit that had been brought forward from the previous year. The trust received brokerage funding from the Scottish Executive Health Department and other non-recurring—that is, one-off—financial support from Grampian NHS Board. The trust has agreed a plan to repay the brokerage funding and to recover its accumulated deficit by the end of 2005-06, but it needs to address a number of significant issues and cost pressures for that to be achieved.During 2002-03, NHS Argyll and Clyde faced an underlying budget deficit of more than £6 million. A recovery plan was prepared, and financial performance of the Argyll and Clyde Acute Hospitals NHS Trust was seen to be a key factor in achievement of the plan. In 2002-03, the board and all three local trusts reported an overspend of £9.6 million, of which the share of Argyll and Clyde Acute Hospitals NHS Trust was £4.8 million. Without the non-recurring funding, the total deficit in the area could have been as high as £31.4 million. NHS Argyll and Clyde prepared a new financial recovery plan in July 2003, when the local trusts were formally dissolved. However, the auditor is concerned about some of the assumptions in the plan: he considers that NHS Argyll and Clyde's accumulated deficit could reach between £60 million and £70 million by 2007-08, and he suggests that it could be very difficult indeed to correct that deficit, given the pressures in the system.Finally, during its financial planning for 2002-03, NHS Fife identified an underlying deficit of £6.9 million, spread across Fife NHS Board and both of its local trusts. All three Fife NHS bodies achieved their financial targets for 2002-03, but the trusts did so only with the use of £9.6 million of non-recurring funding. The auditors were asked to review the financial monitoring and the recovery planning process of the NHS system in Fife. They found features of good financial management, but they also found some scope for improvement. The auditor also expressed concern about NHS Fife's ability to achieve its savings plans because of pressures.In summing up, I do not need to remind committee members that the NHS in Scotland is undergoing considerable change. It is reorganising its structure and its management arrangements at the same time as significant additional funding is being provided. Against that background, the health service faces persistent financial pressures, not least from increasing staff costs and the rising costs of health care.Once the new unified board structures are in place, it should be an essential requirement that transparency be maintained within the NHS. In my opinion, individual health boards should allow us a clear view of the complex operational and financial activity that will continue to take place between what were formerly acute trusts and primary care trusts to support the delivery of health care in Scotland. I believe that that is important in order to support sound and open accountability and to allow a clear view of the health-care benefits that will result from the extra investment that will flow into the service.As always, I am happy to answer any questions. My colleagues are here to help me to do that.

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The Convener: Con
Item 2 is a briefing from the Auditor General for Scotland on the report, "Overview of the National Health Service in Scotland 2002/03". I invite the Auditor...
Mr Robert Black (Auditor General for Scotland):
Thank you. I, too, take the opportunity to wish everyone a happy new year.I welcome the chance briefly to introduce the report, which provides an overview of...
The Convener: Con
Members will be aware that, under agenda item 7, we can discuss how we might respond to the report, but there is ample opportunity to ask questions of the Au...
Margaret Jamieson (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (Lab): Lab
I want to ask about the Common Services Agency. The CSA caused some concern to the previous Audit Committee, which took evidence on qualification of primary ...
Mr Black:
I will turn to my team to ask whether they can provide an answer to the question about the detail of the position in Dumfries and Galloway.
Graeme Greenhill (Audit Scotland):
The question is largely one of patient confidentiality. The requirement was to write to patients who were identified as having received treatment, but I thin...
Margaret Jamieson: Lab
That leads to another question about why we cannot be assured that proper claims are being made. There are GPs throughout each of the health board areas, yet...
Mr Black:
We would not wish to mislead the committee, so the committee may have to take up that issue with the Health Department. We also have to reflect on the possib...
George Lyon (Argyll and Bute) (LD): LD
One issue that is highlighted in the report is that, by amalgamating the trusts into single-tier boards, we might lose transparency about where deficits or l...
Mr Black:
I will be pleased to do that; I believe that that is an extremely important issue.The report identifies some of the in-year developments that take place in o...
George Lyon: LD
You said that it is always the acute sector that seems to lose control of the budget during the year. What are the underlying reasons for that? Is it because...
Mr Black:
It is fair to acknowledge that the challenges of managing the budgets in the acute sector are particularly intense. Committee members will be well aware of w...
George Lyon: LD
Paragraph 3.31 of the report states:"SEHD does not know the cost of implementation of New Deal".That is a staggering statement in an Auditor General's report...
Mr Black:
It goes without saying that the department is best placed to answer that challenge. However, I invite Caroline Gardner to give a sense of our understanding o...
Caroline Gardner (Audit Scotland):
Both the new deal and the new general medical services contract are United Kingdom-wide agreements that are being implemented in Scotland. I know that the He...
George Lyon: LD
That raises the question of how we meet ministerial targets.
Caroline Gardner:
Yes. We must accept that budgeting in the health service is complex. To a great extent, the service is demand led and responds to emergency or urgent pressur...
Susan Deacon (Edinburgh East and Musselburgh) (Lab): Lab
I give notice that, if time permits, I would like to ask a couple of questions specifically about Lothian NHS Board. For now, I will restrict my questions to...
Mr Black:
We are working on a report that considers the performance management and reporting systems in the health service, which will be published before too long. Wh...
Susan Deacon: Lab
I am grateful for that answer.The second issue about which I want to ask is the on-going process of integration of decision making. Again, I am pleased to he...
Mr Black:
The short answer to that question is that it is too early to provide evidence that the new arrangements are achieving benefits. The process of integration is...
Susan Deacon: Lab
I want to pursue the subject of integration and to pick up George Lyon's line of questioning about transparency and your concerns that there is a risk that t...
Mr Black:
At this early stage, the only comment that I can offer is to encourage the department and health boards to ensure that they report in a transparent way, so t...
Susan Deacon: Lab
My final question relates to the working time directive. I ask you to share with us your overview of the wider impact of the working time directive on the pu...
Mr Black:
I am sorry, but I doubt whether we have such information at hand. Perhaps one of my colleagues feels sufficiently in tune with what is happening in other par...
Caroline Gardner:
Bearing in mind Bob Black's caveat, I will hazard a comment, which will be no more than that.We have kept an eye on the working time directive and it is obvi...
The Convener: Con
That is helpful.
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green
I want to check that I understand the terminology correctly. Paragraph 29 of the report mentions "cash releasing efficiency plans". I presume that that means...
Mr Black:
The phrase means initiatives that have been identified that will allow money to be released for redeployment to other activities or to help with a deficit wi...
The Convener: Con
If members have no further questions, Susan Deacon may ask about Lothian.