Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 22 September 2010
22 Sep 2010 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
E-health
The motion asks us to note the contents of the Health and Sport Committee’s report, which I do with great interest. I, too, thank the members of the committee and their back-up team for the work that has gone into it.
As others have said, clinical portal technology offers ways of accessing virtually all the records for a given patient at very high speed. That is a far cry from the situation in which a specialist who sees a problem is unable to know the best way forward because important information is held in a file somewhere else or because the pertinent information is held by another consultant even further away. Clinical portal technology offers total instant access at the tap of a key. Indeed, taking into account the caveats that Christine Grahame voiced, I was surprised that, after I underwent medical treatment at Aberdeen royal infirmary last year, I had to hand carry some of the information about my condition back to my GP. That is not to gainsay the excellence of the treatment that I received, but I found that surprising in this day and age.
As the report points out, and as others have said, the health service has a poor track record in communicating to patients how their medical information is used and shared. Patient confidence in the recording, accessing and use of medical information is vital to the success of such IT projects, therefore the Scottish Government must ensure that patients are aware of how their personal information is being used and that development of the clinical portal is transparent.
Representing the constituency that I do, I am extremely supportive of telehealth technology, which can be particularly beneficial to patients in remote and rural areas. For example, in emergency care situations, telehealth solutions might reduce the number of trips to hospital for those who suffer from long-term conditions and could enable those at remote GP practices to see hospital consultants remotely.
In addition, telehealth technology can be hugely beneficial outwith remote and rural areas. Initiatives that monitor people’s long-term conditions from home are empowering and give patients confidence in self-care and self-management of their condition. However, as the report stresses, we need to move on from the current situation, in which successful pilots and projects have not led to the mainstreaming of telehealth approaches. I agree with the committee’s call for action to roll out successful projects.
The availability of high-speed, reliable broadband is vital to support telehealth services. The challenge of poor broadband connectivity affects many communities across Scotland as the digital divide continues to grow. That should be a worry to us all. Therefore, it is vital that both the Scottish Government and the UK Government work together to ensure that the peripheral parts of Scotland are not missed out as high-speed broadband is rolled out.
It will come as no surprise to hear that I believe that everyone in Scotland, including my constituents and anyone who lives in a remote area—no matter where—should have access to fast and reliable broadband. That is why my party has started a campaign to urge Jeremy Hunt, who is the UK Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics, Media and Sport—a long title—to choose Scotland as one of the areas to be covered by the three high-speed broadband connectivity testing projects that he announced recently. It is imperative that we all get behind that campaign.
Furthermore, although the opportunities that telehealth presents have long been recognised, it is the case, as the committee pointed out and as others have said, that the mainstreaming of telehealth Scotland-wide has been far less successful than one would have hoped. Accordingly, the committee recommended that the Scottish Government should set a target of making Scotland the first country to establish national-scale telehealth services within three to four years at most. To fail in that endeavour is to let down patients, particularly those in the remotest parts of the country, who include many of my constituents.
Before I leave telehealth, I want to flag up a caveat. It is crucial that we set exactly where—I mean physically where—the balance should lie between an electronic, down-the-wire-and-through-the-ether approach and a real-face-in-front-of-you, hands-on approach. That is particularly true for areas such as the far north of Scotland, where remoteness and inclement winter weather can impose extra challenges when the time comes for real, hands-on treatment. For that reason, there must be a limit on the physical distance that separates health professionals and medical facilities from patients. I am sure that all rural members will understand my point; there has to be a balance.
I will conclude with a related issue that concerns all of us—data security. I recognise that things have come a long way since I was a lad, when I used to go to my surgery in my home town of Tain, where the receptionist behind the counter, who was a formidable lady, would demand of you, in front of all the other patients who were waiting patiently in the queue to see the doctor, “And what’s wrong with you today?” If you said, “I would like to see the doctor,” she would say, “No, but what’s wrong with you?” That could prove extremely embarrassing, until a late and great friend of mine, Councillor James Paterson, who was known to many of us in the Highlands, replied, “I’ve got VD.” After that, she did not ask the question again.
Perhaps I am wrong to make light of the issue. My point about data security relates to the fact that in the past two years, as we know, more than 300 laptops and sensitive files were lost by Scotland’s public authorities. Items that were lost by NHS boards included six mobile phones, one of which had patient telephone numbers stored in it, and a memory stick with 40 clinical reports on 21 patients. Of the seven laptops that were stolen, one had on it details of approximately 5,800 patients, one had on it details of patients’ names and another had on it some limited staff information. Another memory stick that was lost contained details of no less than 143 patients.
Although such accidents and examples of human error are understandable—we all lose things—each one only serves to undermine public confidence in clinical portal and telehealth technology. Such mistakes might be understandable, but they are, nevertheless, entirely unacceptable, and we must all do everything in our power to ensure that in future we minimise the likelihood of such events happening again. At stake is the confidence of the patient, which I believe is paramount.
As others have said, clinical portal technology offers ways of accessing virtually all the records for a given patient at very high speed. That is a far cry from the situation in which a specialist who sees a problem is unable to know the best way forward because important information is held in a file somewhere else or because the pertinent information is held by another consultant even further away. Clinical portal technology offers total instant access at the tap of a key. Indeed, taking into account the caveats that Christine Grahame voiced, I was surprised that, after I underwent medical treatment at Aberdeen royal infirmary last year, I had to hand carry some of the information about my condition back to my GP. That is not to gainsay the excellence of the treatment that I received, but I found that surprising in this day and age.
As the report points out, and as others have said, the health service has a poor track record in communicating to patients how their medical information is used and shared. Patient confidence in the recording, accessing and use of medical information is vital to the success of such IT projects, therefore the Scottish Government must ensure that patients are aware of how their personal information is being used and that development of the clinical portal is transparent.
Representing the constituency that I do, I am extremely supportive of telehealth technology, which can be particularly beneficial to patients in remote and rural areas. For example, in emergency care situations, telehealth solutions might reduce the number of trips to hospital for those who suffer from long-term conditions and could enable those at remote GP practices to see hospital consultants remotely.
In addition, telehealth technology can be hugely beneficial outwith remote and rural areas. Initiatives that monitor people’s long-term conditions from home are empowering and give patients confidence in self-care and self-management of their condition. However, as the report stresses, we need to move on from the current situation, in which successful pilots and projects have not led to the mainstreaming of telehealth approaches. I agree with the committee’s call for action to roll out successful projects.
The availability of high-speed, reliable broadband is vital to support telehealth services. The challenge of poor broadband connectivity affects many communities across Scotland as the digital divide continues to grow. That should be a worry to us all. Therefore, it is vital that both the Scottish Government and the UK Government work together to ensure that the peripheral parts of Scotland are not missed out as high-speed broadband is rolled out.
It will come as no surprise to hear that I believe that everyone in Scotland, including my constituents and anyone who lives in a remote area—no matter where—should have access to fast and reliable broadband. That is why my party has started a campaign to urge Jeremy Hunt, who is the UK Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics, Media and Sport—a long title—to choose Scotland as one of the areas to be covered by the three high-speed broadband connectivity testing projects that he announced recently. It is imperative that we all get behind that campaign.
Furthermore, although the opportunities that telehealth presents have long been recognised, it is the case, as the committee pointed out and as others have said, that the mainstreaming of telehealth Scotland-wide has been far less successful than one would have hoped. Accordingly, the committee recommended that the Scottish Government should set a target of making Scotland the first country to establish national-scale telehealth services within three to four years at most. To fail in that endeavour is to let down patients, particularly those in the remotest parts of the country, who include many of my constituents.
Before I leave telehealth, I want to flag up a caveat. It is crucial that we set exactly where—I mean physically where—the balance should lie between an electronic, down-the-wire-and-through-the-ether approach and a real-face-in-front-of-you, hands-on approach. That is particularly true for areas such as the far north of Scotland, where remoteness and inclement winter weather can impose extra challenges when the time comes for real, hands-on treatment. For that reason, there must be a limit on the physical distance that separates health professionals and medical facilities from patients. I am sure that all rural members will understand my point; there has to be a balance.
I will conclude with a related issue that concerns all of us—data security. I recognise that things have come a long way since I was a lad, when I used to go to my surgery in my home town of Tain, where the receptionist behind the counter, who was a formidable lady, would demand of you, in front of all the other patients who were waiting patiently in the queue to see the doctor, “And what’s wrong with you today?” If you said, “I would like to see the doctor,” she would say, “No, but what’s wrong with you?” That could prove extremely embarrassing, until a late and great friend of mine, Councillor James Paterson, who was known to many of us in the Highlands, replied, “I’ve got VD.” After that, she did not ask the question again.
Perhaps I am wrong to make light of the issue. My point about data security relates to the fact that in the past two years, as we know, more than 300 laptops and sensitive files were lost by Scotland’s public authorities. Items that were lost by NHS boards included six mobile phones, one of which had patient telephone numbers stored in it, and a memory stick with 40 clinical reports on 21 patients. Of the seven laptops that were stolen, one had on it details of approximately 5,800 patients, one had on it details of patients’ names and another had on it some limited staff information. Another memory stick that was lost contained details of no less than 143 patients.
Although such accidents and examples of human error are understandable—we all lose things—each one only serves to undermine public confidence in clinical portal and telehealth technology. Such mistakes might be understandable, but they are, nevertheless, entirely unacceptable, and we must all do everything in our power to ensure that in future we minimise the likelihood of such events happening again. At stake is the confidence of the patient, which I believe is paramount.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-7015, in the name of Christine Grahame, on the Health and Sport Committee’s report, “Clinical portal and ...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Going by my helpful note from the clerks, I fear that I have 13 minutes for this speech. A pattern appears to be emerging of my having extensive time to spea...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I ask members not to follow the convener’s example by not using up their allocated time, because we have a little time available.I call Shona Robison, who ha...
The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Shona Robison)
SNP
I welcome this debate on the important role of information technology in improving the safety, effectiveness and efficiency of care. I hope that I will be ab...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD)
LD
Will the 111 telephone number be utilisable in Scotland?
Shona Robison
SNP
We have said that we will look at the evidence on how the number rolls out, what it looks like and some of the learning from that before giving further consi...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
Why did the minister decide not to set a health improvement, efficiency, access and treatment target for telehealth, as recommended in paragraph 87 of the co...
Shona Robison
SNP
As I am beginning to outline, we have decided to move forward on a phased basis, focusing on the areas that I have identified. Rather than ask boards to do e...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the debate. As the Health and Sport Committee’s convener suggested, it might appear to be a dry subject, but it is also a very important debate. I ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
You have a minute and a half more.
Dr Simpson
Lab
Telehealth is moving forward, but rather slowly. We have four systems—telestroke, telepaediatrics, mental health and long-term condition management—but, as M...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
Much is said about consensus in the Parliament, although it tends to be lacking in many debates. However, the considerable consensus in committees—particular...
Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD)
LD
The motion asks us to note the contents of the Health and Sport Committee’s report, which I do with great interest. I, too, thank the members of the committe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan)
SNP
We now move to the open debate. I can allow members up to seven minutes each.15:23
Ian McKee (Lothians) (SNP)
SNP
As a member of the Health and Sport Committee, I am pleased to speak about our report. I begin by thanking our committee support team for their hard work in ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Wind up, please.
Ian McKee
SNP
In summary, we could be on the brink of huge and game-changing developments in patient care, but only if we prepare carefully and fund sensibly. I commend th...
Helen Eadie (Dunfermline East) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to take part in what I consider to be an important debate that could help to unlock exciting developments throughout Scotland. I echo Christine ...
Mary Scanlon
Con
Does the member agree that the public-private partnership between optometrists and the NHS is one of the best in Scotland and puts patients at the heart of t...
Helen Eadie
Lab
I am not in a position to evaluate that, but if Mary Scanlon says that it is, she must be right.Mr Taylor’s digital images clearly showed terrible wet macula...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
SNP
Wind up, please.
Helen Eadie
Lab
I make no apologies to anyone in the chamber for providing an intense case study, as it illustrates very well how telehealth can magically make a difference ...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
I join others in acknowledging the painstaking work of the Health and Sport Committee and its clerks that has led to the comprehensive report that we are dis...
Michael Matheson (Falkirk West) (SNP)
SNP
I will not offer another definition of “clinical portal”. Members have provided several definitions and I suspect that the members who still do not understan...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
The subject matter of this debate is the use of technology, but the committee’s report is really in two distinct parts. The first part considers a single pat...
Liam McArthur (Orkney) (LD)
LD
I, too, am pleased to participate in this afternoon’s debate. I congratulate the members of the Health and Sport Committee on what their convener celebrated ...
Dave Thompson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
As I represent Scotland’s largest parliamentary region, which contains hundreds of large and small communities in remote glens, peninsulas and islands, I am ...
Jeremy Purvis
LD
I am sure that the member is aware of the pathfinder north project under which schools got broadband connections. The project was fully delivered by the prev...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman)
Lab
You are in your last minute, Mr Thompson.
Dave Thompson
SNP
Okay. Thank you, Presiding Officer. Mr Purvis will find that the Scottish Government has done many things with its limited powers, but that does not change t...