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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 17 September 2020

17 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Employment Support

No one should be under the illusion that we face anything less than a full-blown jobs crisis. The latest figures show that Scotland now has the highest unemployment rate anywhere in the UK. The rate here is 4.6 per cent—in England it is 4.1 per cent, in Wales it is 3.1 per cent and in Northern Ireland it is 2.9 per cent. Those are not just numbers. Real people are facing redundancy across Scotland—at Rolls-Royce, in the oil and gas sector, at our major city airports and on high streets up and down the country.

Every effort must be made to save jobs and get people back to work. I welcome Labour’s amendment, which is a positive addition to the debate, and I look forward to hearing more from Labour members as well as from other contributors.

The Scottish Government has made some welcome proposals to aid our economic recovery—for example, the Logan report on digital skills and infrastructure, “Scottish Technology Ecosystem Review”, which contains recommendations for immediate action and long-term strategic change. That long-term change will be needed to build resilience and opportunity in the employment market in order to mitigate a future crisis.

The same can be said of Benny Higgins’s report, “Towards a Robust, Resilient Wellbeing Economy for Scotland: Report of the Advisory Group on Economic Recovery”, which is focused on saving jobs and reducing inequality. The former is obviously of immediate concern, but tackling inequality is especially important over the long term, and will be crucial to building the resilience that I spoke of, and to ensuring equality of opportunity for all in respect of employment.

The Higgins report is also right to highlight the need to focus on the opportunities that are available to young people, because young people are bearing the brunt of job losses—not least, because many work in hard-hit sectors including hospitality, in which the pub trade alone could see as many as 12,500 jobs go. I therefore welcome the youth guarantee, as outlined in Sandy Begbie’s initial report, to help to ensure that young people are given targeted support. That support should be particularly tailored to smaller firms, given the fact that they, as the Federation of Small Businesses advises, account for 99.3 per cent of all private sector businesses. It would also be helpful if the various employment support schemes were better co-ordinated.

To aid the youth guarantee further, and in order to help as many young people as possible, it is vital that it complements the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s new £2 billion kick-start scheme for 16 to 24-year-olds who are most at risk of long-term unemployment. I was pleased to see that Sandy Begbie recommends that approach. I urge ministers to get behind the kick-start scheme, just as they got behind the chancellor’s coronavirus job retention scheme, which the Scottish National Party admitted is one of the best in the world. The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Fair Work and Culture went as far as to say that the furlough scheme is a “lifeline”.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The next item of business is a debate on S5M-22731, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on employment support. I invite members who wish to speak in the debate to ...
The Minister for Business, Fair Work and Skills (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
Back in April, the Scottish Government welcomed the introduction of the United Kingdom’s job retention scheme. The furlough scheme has maintained the viabili...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
If Murdo Fraser can explain why that is a sensible thing to do, I will happily give way.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am grateful to the minister for giving way so early in his speech. At this early stage, I wanted him to set out on the record that the UK furlough scheme h...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I am happy to concede that the UK furlough scheme has been an excellent initiative. That might be why I am here urging the UK Government to extend such a sen...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I support the motion and the minister’s contribution so far. Back in June, the Parliament agreed to set out in financial terms the total sum of what the bene...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Just yesterday, as I have alluded to, the chief economic adviser published a full assessment of the benefits of the introduction of the furlough scheme. I re...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the minister gave way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I am afraid not, Mr Rennie. I am happy to give way in closing. In calling for the UK Government to extend the furlough scheme, I recognise the role that thi...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
How many young people will the £60 million youth guarantee scheme provide for?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
The fundamental principle of the scheme is to guarantee every young person in Scotland the chance to get employment, education or training. I am not suggesti...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
No one should be under the illusion that we face anything less than a full-blown jobs crisis. The latest figures show that Scotland now has the highest unemp...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for taking an intervention. I have just one point to make. Last week, in a debate in the House of Commons, the Chief Secretary to the ...
Maurice Golden Con
I thank George Adam for that intervention. If we listen to the SNP, the Scottish Government paper “COVID-19: Analysis of Extending the Coronavirus Job Reten...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Will the member give way?
Maurice Golden Con
I am developing the theme. Spending more increases debt, potentially decreases the credit rating of the UK, will increase the cost of borrowing and risk stag...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Maurice Golden recognises that we are not calling for the scheme to be extended for time without end, but are asking for a sensible extension to support peop...
Maurice Golden Con
The minister should understand the wider economic impact and—as I have mentioned—with regard to increasing borrowing, the risk to the overall deficit. Those ...
Maurice Golden Con
I am going to make progress. I also respect the minister’s and the cabinet secretary’s views on the furlough scheme. If they had listened to SNP back benche...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Maurice Golden Con
I take it that I do not have extra time, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I will give you extra time for interventions
Keith Brown SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for giving way. Does he agree with the Resolution Foundation, which has said that the job retention bonus “will not make a major diff...
Maurice Golden Con
Keith Brown, who during his tenure as minister presided over a disastrous economic strategy for Scotland, has a hard neck to try to lecture me on economics. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Do you wish to give way, Mr Golden?
Maurice Golden Con
No, I am going to make progress. More than 2,600 firms have received support worth almost £600 million from the coronavirus business interruption loan schem...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to discuss the support that is needed to help employers retain jobs across the UK and, where that is not possible, to help people w...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
If people approach us and let us know about things, we might consider co-operating with them.
Jackie Baillie Lab
I look forward—