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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 19 February 2015

19 Feb 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Marine Plan

As Claudia Beamish knows, our approach is to encourage enhancement of the marine environment when possible, but we have to respect existing activities. Unless there is strong evidence that existing activities are causing significant damage, we must respect the fact that they have been there for a long time and should continue. Of course, we should enhance the marine environment where possible.

Many members have alluded to delicate balances and I want to highlight some of the issues that arose during the debate that might illustrate the challenge facing the Government in striking that balance. Margaret McDougall and Rob Gibson spoke about the calls for more fisheries conservation at the local level in different parts of Scotland. At the same time, we have the committee’s recommendation that we should perhaps put more safeguards in for the fishing industry. It is difficult to have it both ways, so we have to strike a balance because, in the eyes of some, those two positions are incompatible.

On aquaculture, we heard Tavish Scott looking for a plan to promote aquaculture in Shetland, and Jean Urquhart said that she did not want to see a target for aquaculture and that we should take a precautionary approach. The plan does a fairly good job of balancing the requirements of those two positions. We can have a sustainable aquaculture sector that develops and sustains jobs in local communities in the times ahead.

The marine plan does not just go out to 12 miles, the area which is the responsibility of the Scottish Parliament. Because of the agreement with the UK Government, it goes out to 200 miles, albeit that we are waiting for additional responsibilities such as control over the management of the Crown Estate. We are seeking confirmation from the UK Government that that will go out to 200 miles and not just 12 miles.

The fact that the marine plan goes out to 200 miles gives us a range of factors that we can take into account when planning for the future. We have to safeguard fishing wherever possible. We also need the ability to have preferred locations for marine renewable developments. We have to look at salmon and other migratory species, their impact on the environment and the impact that other activities have on their health. We have to look at how we reuse oil and gas infrastructure where possible, particularly in relation to carbon capture and storage. So there is a range of issues that we can look at because the plan covers the area between 12 and 200 miles.

We are entering a new era for the marine environment of Scotland. We are a global player when it comes to the marine and maritime sectors and the richness of our seas. In my opening remarks, I outlined how we have unique species, offshore renewables potential, the oil and gas industry, the fishing industry and so on. We are a major global player when it comes to the maritime sectors.

We are now looking at marine protected areas, which will soon be implemented in Scotland to add more conservation of the marine features that lie beneath the waves. Inshore fisheries groups have been set up to look at local management of fishing. We are looking at regional planning partnerships, and as part of what we have discussed today around the marine plan we are looking to take a bottom-up rather than a top-down approach.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The first item of business this afternoon is a debate on motion S4M-12343, in the name of Richard Lochhead, on the national marine plan.
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
I am pleased that we are able to debate Scotland’s first national marine plan, and I begin by thanking the stakeholders who have played an important part in ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Is the minister aware of the concerns that many of the fishermen whom I represent have when they see, beyond the 12-mile limit in particular, fishing boats f...
Richard Lochhead SNP
Unfortunately, the marine plan does not usurp the common fisheries policy. However, it is certainly the Scottish Government’s policy position to pursue a lev...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
On the minister’s point about development, has he come to a considered view on the burying of sea-bed cables, given that the fibre optic cable between Faroe,...
Richard Lochhead SNP
As the marine plan lays out, and as was discussed with the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, although we are willing to review the wor...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour values the opportunity for additional scrutiny that this debate on the draft national marine plan brings. As the cabinet secretary has highl...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
No one from the Conservative Party or, I am sure, from any other party, would argue with the overall statement in the motion that “the general policies in t...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
The scrutiny of the national marine plan has raised quite a lot of criticisms from our committee. They are intended to say not, “This is not fit for purpose”...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate on our national marine plan. The plan has been drafted to be consistent with the UK marine policy statement...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We have a little bit of time in hand if members wish to take interventions. 14:42
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
Pivotal to successful delivery of the marine plan in both the national and local contexts will be the points that are covered in paragraph 43 of the Rural Af...
Claudia Beamish Lab
It is possible that, if the marine plan had not been delayed so much—I understand the reasons for that delay—we would not be in the situation that we are now...
Graeme Dey SNP
That is one point of view, but the fact is that a significant series of critical offshore developments are under threat because of that. Appropriate experti...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I start by agreeing with Graeme Dey’s point about the RNLI’s expertise. I absolutely share that view regarding the expertise in Lerwick and Aith in my consti...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
I, too, welcome the principle of the Scottish Government adopting a national marine plan to provide guidance to decision makers and users of Scotland’s marin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mr Thompson, can you move your microphone slightly more towards you? We are having difficulty in hearing you. Thank you.
Dave Thompson SNP
I could shout, but I had better not. I take it that the volume is better now, Presiding Officer. I will start again so that you can hear the whole thrust of ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
I apologise to the cabinet secretary for not being present for the beginning of his speech, but I am a member of the Justice Sub-Committee on Policing, which...
Michael Russell (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
I am glad that the cabinet secretary has, at the very outset, drawn attention to the on-going difficulty in the Sound of Mull with the Lysblink Seaway, which...
Jean Urquhart (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I, too, welcome the national marine plan as a positive step towards effective marine spatial planning of the Scottish sea area. I acknowledge that, although ...
Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to close this important debate for the Scottish Conservatives. We have had some good and positive contributions from many members. As Alex Ferg...
Rob Gibson SNP
What species does Jamie McGrigor think should be farmed on the north and east coasts of Scotland?
Jamie McGrigor Con
I think that the industry is talking about farmed salmon. My constituents in Islay and Jura have expressed many concerns to me about the unacceptable delays...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Five years ago, we passed a hugely ambitious marine act. The marine plan, which follows it five years on, is crucial. As other members have said, the plan i...
Richard Lochhead SNP
I thank all members across the chamber for their contributions to the debate on Scotland’s first national marine plan, which has been many years in the makin...
Claudia Beamish Lab
Does the cabinet secretary agree that enhancement is vital because some areas are denuded? Recovery is not enough for our marine environment, and that is hig...
Richard Lochhead SNP
As Claudia Beamish knows, our approach is to encourage enhancement of the marine environment when possible, but we have to respect existing activities. Unles...
Sarah Boyack Lab
One of the concerns that has been flagged up to us is about the detail of MPAs and the balance between protection and sustainable fisheries. Will the cabinet...
Richard Lochhead SNP
As I have indicated previously, I am happy to look at that. If I have time, I just want to raise an issue that other members have mentioned. We need to en...